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New G4 iBooks
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Yes, only until the G5 Powerbooks are released. My guess is by the end of the year or early 2004.
Slot loading drives!!! Very cool!
And I'm glad they finally phased out the "CD-ROM" drives (the ones that don't read DVDs or burn CDs). What good is that anyway?
And I'm glad they finally phased out the "CD-ROM" drives (the ones that don't read DVDs or burn CDs). What good is that anyway?
This is Moto's 'old' 7455 G4 because it only has 256k L2 cache (not 1MB). On non-altivec tasks, the 800MHz 12" will likely be slower than the old 900 G3. Still a good update though, and the 14" is MUCH better value than it used to be.
Re: Panther
Expensive way of buying panther....
With Jaguar the install discs were same for the powermac and the ibook I had so I guess unless they're machine specific now yes it'd probably work. It's almost certainly outside of the licence conditions though.
Expensive way of buying panther....
So what is the preformance difference from the rev A 17in PB and the NEW 14 in Ibook?
obviously the screen size, but to some, that is no drawback, the Fw800, and..... a littel slower ram speed?
other than that? so which is better?
Andreas
obviously the screen size, but to some, that is no drawback, the Fw800, and..... a littel slower ram speed?
other than that? so which is better?
Andreas
Maybe, but there is probably a bigger gap between PB and iBook now than there was a little while ago. The 12" iBook G4 has distanced itself from the 1GHz PB 12", and the 14" is in a different market, while still nowhere near the 15 or 17" PBs. As I mentioned on the other forum, you still need a PB if you want a DVD-R drive (internal) or an 80GB hard drive.
Hmm... $1,099
Would have been great to keep a $999 or cheaper bottom-end iBook. It will be interesting to see how many people would opt for any iBook over $1,099 when also considering the 12 inch powerbook.
While it's great to see a $799 eMac, there seems to be a huge price gap between it and the $1,099 model.
Would have been great to keep a $999 or cheaper bottom-end iBook. It will be interesting to see how many people would opt for any iBook over $1,099 when also considering the 12 inch powerbook.
While it's great to see a $799 eMac, there seems to be a huge price gap between it and the $1,099 model.
This is great! I couldn't believe my eyes when I read these news. I'll probably get a 12" model for christmas. G3 to G4, more default memory, faster memory, better graphics chip, USB1 to USB2, Airport to AE, and price down 200 euros!
or due to heat problem
I think there is another reason, maybe the small enclose of the iBook is not compatible with the heat released by the 1GHz G4 7455. in addition alu is a much better heat conductor than plastic, in other words, the Alu will release heat better than the plastic case.
I think there is another reason, maybe the small enclose of the iBook is not compatible with the heat released by the 1GHz G4 7455. in addition alu is a much better heat conductor than plastic, in other words, the Alu will release heat better than the plastic case.
You may want to have a look...
Hi heljy
You may want to have a look at http://www.rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html
Don't know if it will work with these new ibooks, but on my iBook 900 it works beatifully. Dual desktop with the laptop screen, and a large CRT running at 1600x1200... although that hurts performance just a little. Running at 1280x1024 is much speedier
Originally posted by heljy
I just checked ou apple's site and it says the iBook only supports mirroring
Hi heljy
You may want to have a look at http://www.rutemoeller.com/mp/ibook/ibook_e.html
Don't know if it will work with these new ibooks, but on my iBook 900 it works beatifully. Dual desktop with the laptop screen, and a large CRT running at 1600x1200... although that hurts performance just a little. Running at 1280x1024 is much speedier
PB sales
I can't imagine this would hurt PB sales.
14" iBook
256K L2 cache @ 1GHz
14-inch TFT Display
1024x768 resolution
256MB DDR266 (128MB built-in & 128MB SO-DIMM)
60GB Ultra ATA drive
Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
AirPort Extreme Card
Bluetooth Module
Keyboard/Mac OS X - U.S. English
14.1-inch TFT XGA display
1GHz PowerPC G4
ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 w/ 32MB DDR video memory
Subtotal $1,648.00
12" PowerBook
1024x768 resolution
512K L2 cache
NVIDIA GeForce FX
Go 5200 (32MB DDR)
Full size keyboard
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
FireWire 400
AirPort Extreme Ready
Mini-DVI out
1GHz PowerPC G4
256MB DDR266 (256MB built-in)
60GB Ultra ATA drive @ 4200rpm
Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
AirPort Extreme Card
Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
12.1-inch TFT Display
Subtotal $1,748.00
So, for $100 more, you get better external display capabilities, double the cache, higher RAM capacity, it weighs a pound less.
All else being equal (bluetooth, AE, drive, etc) I can't imagine why anyone would get the 14" iBook.
I can see the 12" iBook, for cost purposes, but it looks to me like the 12" PB would kill the 14" iBook sales.
I can't imagine this would hurt PB sales.
14" iBook
256K L2 cache @ 1GHz
14-inch TFT Display
1024x768 resolution
256MB DDR266 (128MB built-in & 128MB SO-DIMM)
60GB Ultra ATA drive
Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
AirPort Extreme Card
Bluetooth Module
Keyboard/Mac OS X - U.S. English
14.1-inch TFT XGA display
1GHz PowerPC G4
ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 w/ 32MB DDR video memory
Subtotal $1,648.00
12" PowerBook
1024x768 resolution
512K L2 cache
NVIDIA GeForce FX
Go 5200 (32MB DDR)
Full size keyboard
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
FireWire 400
AirPort Extreme Ready
Mini-DVI out
1GHz PowerPC G4
256MB DDR266 (256MB built-in)
60GB Ultra ATA drive @ 4200rpm
Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
AirPort Extreme Card
Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
12.1-inch TFT Display
Subtotal $1,748.00
So, for $100 more, you get better external display capabilities, double the cache, higher RAM capacity, it weighs a pound less.
All else being equal (bluetooth, AE, drive, etc) I can't imagine why anyone would get the 14" iBook.
I can see the 12" iBook, for cost purposes, but it looks to me like the 12" PB would kill the 14" iBook sales.
In fact, it seems like they are almost wanting to phase out the 12" iBook considering the 12" only has a 30GB hard drive as well. When you think about it, most PC consumer laptops (with keyboards) have 14" 1024x768 screens, just like the 14" iBook. The 12" PB fills the more portable niche.
Nice to see that finally all Macs have at least a Combo drive!
Nice to see that finally all Macs have at least a Combo drive!
New 12" iBook G4 is probably the best value in the current Apple lineup. I must admit I was suprised with price/features of new iBooks.
Way to go Apple!
I was always hoping that Apple will rename G3 iBook to something like eBook and update new iBook to lower G4s. That would be equivalent to eMac/iMac on the desktop side.
So now that iBooks are G4 and priced at bellow $ 1100 USD, does this make eBook more likely? Can Apple make G3 notebook for something like $ 699?
Way to go Apple!
I was always hoping that Apple will rename G3 iBook to something like eBook and update new iBook to lower G4s. That would be equivalent to eMac/iMac on the desktop side.
So now that iBooks are G4 and priced at bellow $ 1100 USD, does this make eBook more likely? Can Apple make G3 notebook for something like $ 699?
Re: G4 iBook = G5 Powerbook!
Bolt from the blue! I suppose this got lost in the music hoopla, or perhaps I just missed a day. I hope the case is largely the same.. those are some of the sturdiest machines I've seen. They're right up there with the ol' toilet seats.
Bolt from the blue! I suppose this got lost in the music hoopla, or perhaps I just missed a day. I hope the case is largely the same.. those are some of the sturdiest machines I've seen. They're right up there with the ol' toilet seats.
As long as a G5 powerbook is out by the time Applecare runs out on my tibook and all the paint has chipped off, I'll be happy.
not happy
I know why they had to enfeeble the 12" ibook -- to protect 12"pb sales -- but it's still annoying. In my travels, the 12" model is far more popular in cafes, etc -- it's lighter and more attractive (it seems there is a pretty broad consensus on this point). The 12" ibook is a great consumer portable.
and the intro model over $1000? yeesh
If they had to go G4 (and I wish they didn't have to) I guess my wish list would look like this:
12" 800 cd - $999
12" 800 combo - $1099
12" 933 combo - $1199
14" 1Ghz - $1399
for reasons already listed in this thread, people still have need for the pb over the ibook. It's too bad Apple felt the need to limit options on one of its most popular models.
I know why they had to enfeeble the 12" ibook -- to protect 12"pb sales -- but it's still annoying. In my travels, the 12" model is far more popular in cafes, etc -- it's lighter and more attractive (it seems there is a pretty broad consensus on this point). The 12" ibook is a great consumer portable.
and the intro model over $1000? yeesh
If they had to go G4 (and I wish they didn't have to) I guess my wish list would look like this:
12" 800 cd - $999
12" 800 combo - $1099
12" 933 combo - $1199
14" 1Ghz - $1399
for reasons already listed in this thread, people still have need for the pb over the ibook. It's too bad Apple felt the need to limit options on one of its most popular models.
7455 vs 7447
that's it
7455 has half the 7447 memory cache and release more heat.
the G4 iBook sports as 7455 G4 processor while the AluBook sports(or should sport) a 7447 processor.
that's it
7455 has half the 7447 memory cache and release more heat.