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New G4 iBooks
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Re: PB sales
not exatly, one has 12" display whereas the other has 14" display,
depending what you have to do, you better take the 14" for your eyes....
not exatly, one has 12" display whereas the other has 14" display,
depending what you have to do, you better take the 14" for your eyes....
This is a downgrade, not an upgrade. It seems like they want to get customers over to the 12" PB. No they are a bit easier to compare, although some people will forget to look at the cache difference.
Just my opinion...
What happened to the IbM chips everyone was talking about?
Maybe they have to buy a certain amount of G4's from Motorola?
There must be some strange reason.
Just my opinion...
What happened to the IbM chips everyone was talking about?
Maybe they have to buy a certain amount of G4's from Motorola?
There must be some strange reason.
You know of where I can get the firmware? *darn* Maybe I shouldnt have sold my iBook after all....
Well the G3 as a sub-brand was getting long in the tooth. Imagine if Intel was still trying to market the Pentium II, irregardless of how much clockspeed they could squeeze out, that's why they just rebadged it as the Pentium III. In the end the G3 processor was becoming a liability when people were weighing the features for a consumer notebook.
I wonder if the 12" iBook is available in the store immediately. If so, big slip up for Apple, what with the release of Panther.
Originally posted by soakwashrinse
Might be a few new 12-inch PowerBook owners kicking themselves in a few hours.
Seriously, if these had been around a month ago when I bought my 15-inch 1.25GHz PowerBook, I might have bought a G5 desktop and complimentary 12-inch iBook instead... or maybe even just an iBook to tide me over until the next (G5 or whatever) major PowerBook revisions.
Oh well, still very happy with what I have.
I will get my 12" Powerbook today. As I can't afford to have 2 machines, I'd still have got it even if these new ibooks were out when I ordered it.
These new ibooks seem like a good deal for most users.
I wish Apple would have kept an "eBook" or something - a still G3 ibook for mostly kid users or those who don't need the highest performance. Maybe a model that would be even more resistant (as material) and really targeted to small users.
I had a good timing to sell the ibook though.
One thing people seem to be overlooking is that the ibook G4 has a better video card than the 12" Powerbook. Just how much better, i'm not sure, but for anyone more concerned with graphical prowess for games or something, the ibook is much more attractive than the 12" Powerbook.
Of course, I doubt too many Mac users are buying laptops to play games on
Of course, I doubt too many Mac users are buying laptops to play games on
*FAINTS*
Wow, that was a big surprise. I just opened macminute to just see what is new today and *BAM* it hit me.
I was just thinking last night of selling my 12" 800Mhz ComboDrive iBook and getting a powerbook. I guess mine just dropped a few hundred $ in value
Way to go though, I love the new prices! And specs!
[Edit adding the following]
Ok, I just realized that the mid-range machine is a 14", so I guess portability AND power is only in the powerbook line. Still not bad for the entry level machine to be so heap and have so much. [/Edit]
Wow, that was a big surprise. I just opened macminute to just see what is new today and *BAM* it hit me.
I was just thinking last night of selling my 12" 800Mhz ComboDrive iBook and getting a powerbook. I guess mine just dropped a few hundred $ in value
Way to go though, I love the new prices! And specs!
[Edit adding the following]
Ok, I just realized that the mid-range machine is a 14", so I guess portability AND power is only in the powerbook line. Still not bad for the entry level machine to be so heap and have so much. [/Edit]
Yeah, there is definitly a two tone going on on the iBook. Grey on the inside, white on the outside. I like it. It looks real sleek. Subtle and sleek. Now if only they'd drop the price acouple hundred bucks, I'd be able to afford one of these babies.
Ugh... G3+Altivec...
IBM would not be releasing a G3+Altivec soon, if at all. They JUST released the 750GX - which did NOT add Altivec - and thus would not likely be releasing another G3 product so soon. Additionally, it would make more sense from a business standpoint for them to put their Altivec work into the 970 series and beyond anyway - their customers buy the G3 for what it does best. If IBM wants to get into the arena with Altivec, then they need to make the 970 more attractive for those roles, not imbue the G3 with it. It's not technically as simple as slapping an Altivec unit into the CPU - doing so would probably make the G3 unattractive for it's current applications!
IBM would not be releasing a G3+Altivec soon, if at all. They JUST released the 750GX - which did NOT add Altivec - and thus would not likely be releasing another G3 product so soon. Additionally, it would make more sense from a business standpoint for them to put their Altivec work into the 970 series and beyond anyway - their customers buy the G3 for what it does best. If IBM wants to get into the arena with Altivec, then they need to make the 970 more attractive for those roles, not imbue the G3 with it. It's not technically as simple as slapping an Altivec unit into the CPU - doing so would probably make the G3 unattractive for it's current applications!
The ATI 9200 is about the same as the NV FX5200go. Here is a review. http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/fic_r92p/index.html That means that the graphics power on the 15" and 17" PB is still way ahead of the iBook.
Wow. We just bought our 900mhz G3 in May for $1299, and now a 800mhz G4 is just $1099. That's okay, the wife can have the older one, I'll get a G4
The 12" iBook tops at 800 MHz, only got 256KB L2 cache, can't have a superdrive and seems more limited memory expansion-wise. I still see both lines being quite distinct.
don't forget screen brightness
At AppleExpo in paris, I compared my iBook 500's screen to the 12" G4 PowerBook. Even with Apple's moronic lit up display table (which makes most laptop screen difficult to see), the difference was obvious. The iBook (albeit an older one) has a much dimmer screen. I'm reminded of this everytime I look at my wife's PB 867 screen and have to put on sunglasses. In a normal high-light working environment, I find the iBook screen very difficult to see. The crappiest Dell Inspiron laptops screens are much brighter than my iBook (though the Dell weighs 50 pounds).
Anyway, don't forget the actual screens when you compare.
I thought I would get a g4 iBook the second I heard about it. Then I looked at the actual specs. I'm of the camp that finds the 14" to be just silly, and the 12" is crippled. Furthermore, the memory is rated at twice the frequency of the system bus. Excuse me? That's sad. Oh well.
What I would do, though, is buy a new 12" iBook and try to trade it for my wife's 867 PowerBook. Too bad they don't just sell that model for the price of an iBook.
At AppleExpo in paris, I compared my iBook 500's screen to the 12" G4 PowerBook. Even with Apple's moronic lit up display table (which makes most laptop screen difficult to see), the difference was obvious. The iBook (albeit an older one) has a much dimmer screen. I'm reminded of this everytime I look at my wife's PB 867 screen and have to put on sunglasses. In a normal high-light working environment, I find the iBook screen very difficult to see. The crappiest Dell Inspiron laptops screens are much brighter than my iBook (though the Dell weighs 50 pounds).
Anyway, don't forget the actual screens when you compare.
I thought I would get a g4 iBook the second I heard about it. Then I looked at the actual specs. I'm of the camp that finds the 14" to be just silly, and the 12" is crippled. Furthermore, the memory is rated at twice the frequency of the system bus. Excuse me? That's sad. Oh well.
What I would do, though, is buy a new 12" iBook and try to trade it for my wife's 867 PowerBook. Too bad they don't just sell that model for the price of an iBook.
The celeron processor was a PII for a long time.. Now it's based of the PIV, but it's basically a PII with some PIV extentions.
And a 400MHz bus, and a .13 micron, and 256KB of L2 cache... Besides, the Celeron hasn't been based on the Pentium II for about a year and a half.
hmmm
Any chance that this is a 750GX being called a G4 rather than a 7455?
I do not see any mention of Altivec on any of the iBook related pages.
The battery life of the new iBooks is quoted at 6 hours. How could they be getting 6 hours out of the 7455?
Any chance that this is a 750GX being called a G4 rather than a 7455?
I do not see any mention of Altivec on any of the iBook related pages.
The battery life of the new iBooks is quoted at 6 hours. How could they be getting 6 hours out of the 7455?
Design and touchwise, these new ones are not as cool looking as the provious. What's that greyishness? I want to see those (I try to resist till friday) and try them too. The 800 / 900 mhz models were less pleasant for touch as well, compared to the models up to 700 (800?) mhz, those white that you would be still able to mod to be transparent, so where the plastic case was transparent and painted on white under it, rather than having all white case.
I loved those ibooks. When I see this greyish one ... I love the powerbooks. But feature and pricewise, great machines.
I loved those ibooks. When I see this greyish one ... I love the powerbooks. But feature and pricewise, great machines.
These are an "upgrade" for Apple and the market the ibook is aimed at. While it may be a bit slower, it is also cheaper. My guess would be Apple does not want three processors in the family as it hurts sales with the "lesser" processor - even though it might be faster in some configurations.
iBook buyers tend to be students, average joe/jane blows that are looking for their first laptop and not doing some intense processing. These will work fine for running word, appleworks, surfing the net, etc.
I'm just happy we get a new set of rumors about G5 powerbooks maybe in sooner rather than later!
iBook buyers tend to be students, average joe/jane blows that are looking for their first laptop and not doing some intense processing. These will work fine for running word, appleworks, surfing the net, etc.
I'm just happy we get a new set of rumors about G5 powerbooks maybe in sooner rather than later!