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New Get A Mac Ad: Stuffed

pizzach said:
Where does your Mac get 2 minutes 40 seconds? My father's Mac Mini with a 1.4 G4 processor takes less than 30 seconds to boot up. I 'm trying skype right now and it takes less than 10 seconds on a cold start on my Linux box with a 1.7Ghz Pentium M. Both of these machines have slower specs than the one you stated. Does that mean Office takes a whopping 2 minutes to start?
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No - I don't believe so.

Every post except mine after my post regarding this on this thread is apparently comparing Apples with oranges. I'm not talking about Linux (wth should I talk about Linux after my initial post on this matter?), old machines, etc. I'm talking about comparing a current Mac with a current Windows / Vista PC - for real. i.e. one which you actually own.

I chose Skype as the main startup item because a) I use it and b) it's a cross-platform application that has an adverse effect on startup time on both platforms so that I could get a 'real' time on how long a reasonably loaded-up system would take to be usable.

I booted up the MBP, started Word and waited until a) everything had come up and b) I could do stuff in Word. On the Mac, this happened to be almost the same time - the 2:50 I mentioned. All of the machines I used here have 2Gb of RAM.

Under Vista, the time to Word being available to use and full machine start-up including Skype varied a lot. Office was responsive almost immediately after logging in, but it took a while after logging on for everything else to initialise. The Dell time you see is the full startup time, which is still a minute short of a Macbook Pro with very similar hardware. The Sony time is the time it took for Word to be available - which is as I said above a lot shorter than the full boot-up time, and qualified in my previous post saying Skype wasn't installed.
 
Apple is increasingly associating PC with the things that are deemed bad in society (here we have obesity), we have numerously had illness. A clever bit of advertising that is going to create so many associations to the PC that it will be with shame that anyone buys one (if of course enough of these ads are watched - I've never seen one on TV in the UK, but I have seen print versions in the Guardian's Weekend magazine). I imagine that a lot of PC manufacturers will get pretty annoyed at these, and I would like to see how they might fight back.

N.B. doesn't the Mac come with a trial version of MS Office?
 
a456 said:
Apple is increasingly associating PC with the things that are deemed bad in society (here we have obesity), we have numerously had illness. A clever bit of advertising that is going to create so many associations to the PC that it will be with shame that anyone buys one (if of course enough of these ads are watched - I've never seen one on TV in the UK, but I have seen print versions in the Guardian's Weekend magazine). I imagine that a lot of PC manufacturers will get pretty annoyed at these, and I would like to see how they might fight back.

N.B. doesn't the Mac come with a trial version of MS Office?
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They are not as frequent in the UK, but I've seen them every so often on channel 4, not that I watch that a lot though.... I don't like commercial breaks, but these are good for the UK, they just need to play catch up and get these and Vista related ones out soon. :apple:
 
Get a Mac adds

Just an observation.

While I think in general, these adds are great, I think the focus is lately a little too much about the flaws of PC, than it is about the strength of Mac.
I know that pointing out flaws, while saying Macs don't have that problem does work, and it's funny (a key strength for a succesful commercial, people remember the funny ones), but it would be nice to see a few again that makes emphasise the strenghts of the Mac, Expose, Spotlight, keyboard shortcuts, and for leopard of course time machine, and spaces.:apple:
 
Nice Ad !

But I fell like I'm the only one who actually understood it... What's with all this "Yea well office comes with macs!" ? He said that he comes with full of trial software that "slows him down", that's why he is that big... Do you seriously think that office trial or even iWork trial actually slow down your mac ? OMG.
 
This ad is dead on (and rarely like advertisement). Forget that macs come with a trial of MS Office... hav any of you who are critical of this ad actually browsed a consumer pc these days? Or in the last 5 years, for that matter... crap on top of crap software... and it's a pain to get rid of... right on, Apple.
 
obviously mac guy can't eat with his hands always into pockets, that's the reason why pc guy is fat and mac guy not.
 
lelereb said:
obviously mac guy can't eat with his hands always into pockets, that's the reason why pc guy is fat and mac guy not.
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It's really cool to leave your hands in your pockets. Chilled, unphased. I love being so blazé about things. It means when I do have a problem, I won't get flamed. :rolleyes:
 
flopticalcube said:
We still find the ads amusing, but are they still working or are PC people just starting to get irritated by them?
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I've never used anything but a mac/apple(had an apple IIe...is that what they called it?)...but these ads are starting to irritate me!

I know, and people keep saying that these ads are about MACs and PCs, not MAC Users, and PC Users, but it still seems that we are constantly belittling PC users/WINTEL (remember that...are we MACTEL Users?).

A couple of ads were funny(we earned them!), but this campaign has to end!

Everything that PC users did to us(belittling us for our choice of software), we did back to them. Nobody calls us idiots anymore for choosing the MAC OS. That's good enough, let's leave it alone! Find a new campaign Apple! (call me, I do marketing):)
 
i wonder if Mac guy will continue shooting the ad after Die Hard movie comes out.

by the way, I like PC guy much more. he is just more likeable.
 
So the commercial should say... your bloat is worse than my bloat?

Actually, anything that isn't necessary for the OS to run is bloat... I think all OS have their own bloat whether or not it's added by Apple/MS/Linux or by an outside vendor.

Zadillo said:
It's not JUST about coming with trial software, etc. It's about coming with trial software and non-trial crapware that runs in the background and slows the PC down.

This is a big problem with a lot of PC's sold by HP, Dell, Sony, etc...... to the point that places like Best Buy and Circuit City advertise it as a "service" to remove all this crap for customers, and that Dell markets as a "feature" of their high end XPS laptops the fact that they don't contain any bloatware/crapware.

If PC's just came with trial software like your MacBook that took up space but didn't slow the computer down or cause other problems, it wouldn't be such a big deal.

The point I think of this commercial isn't just the idea of coming with a lot of unnecessary bloatware, but that a lot of it slows the system down too. Macs may come with some trial software, and may also come with stuff like iLife preinstalled, but none of these specifically RUIN the experience or make things run really slow and crappy.

-Zadillo
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wow another mac ad

These stupid Mac commericals actually have the exactly opposite effect. I don't want a POS Mac after seeing all the elitest sh*t these ads shovel. Yeah I can overpay for a "chic" Mac with a superiority complex (and don't forget swelling batteries) or get a good deal on a PC that will do everything the Mac does but won't be as "cool". Wow that was a tough decision. Good one Apple!
 
Skemo said:
These stupid Mac commericals actually have the exactly opposite effect. I don't want a POS Mac after seeing all the elitest sh*t these ads shovel. Yeah I can overpay for a "chic" Mac with a superiority complex (and don't forget swelling batteries) or get a good deal on a PC that will do everything the Mac does but won't be as "cool". Wow that was a tough decision. Good one Apple!
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Thank you for that very well reasoned, thoughtful rebuttal.
 
I will have to say this. Nuts to MS Office, up with OpenOffice. I don't need Powerpoint, Entourage or Excel, and I loathe MSN messenger. Just install X11, and it's been peaches n' cream for me. WildTangent...man that takes me back. :D
 
Who has the bigger ....

These Apple ads are simply childish and nerdish (if there is such a word :confused: ).

I wish Apple would spend more time getting their latest OS finished and spend less time trying to insult the 95% of the population with another OS.:)

Shows no class. :apple:
 
The rotation of the Apple TV ad comtinues to be pretty heavy. The "computer cart" ad continues.

What I would love to see is the FCS NAB "reel" be placed into light rotation because it is very exciting to experiece and the rapid growth of licenses means there is an untapped market.

Rocketman
 
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