New Google Chrome Beta Gains Integrated Flash Plug-In, Speed Increases

Darkroom said:
Chrome is awesome.

in similar news, IE has lost market share, but what's more interesting is how Chrome tripled it's market share in the past year, while Safari has remained relatively static. sorry Safari, but you're on the outs for this computer.

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...It's still a LONG way until web design becomes fulfilling again...
 
I seriously have never understood the whole "this browser is faster than yours" thing. I've never sat at my computer and thought "bugger, this page sure is rendering slowly, my browser must be slow". I've only ever thought "bugger, my internet's running slow today".

The chances of a browser's coding being the source of a slow internet browsing experience versus the internet connections speed are slim to none in my opinion. I use IE on Windows and Safari on OSX. I've tried Firefox and some others to see what the hype was about but I never noticed any difference.
 
Google controls one of the largest advertising entities in the world.

People need to give them a little more credit when it comes to knowing about advertising and marketing. It is their primary business.

People want to think of google as a technology company but they are an advertising company. Their business is selling advertising. They do it very well.
 
Spanky Deluxe said:
I seriously have never understood the whole "this browser is faster than yours" thing. I've never sat at my computer and thought "bugger, this page sure is rendering slowly, my browser must be slow". I've only ever thought "bugger, my internet's running slow today".

The chances of a browser's coding being the source of a slow internet browsing experience versus the internet connections speed are slim to none in my opinion. I use IE on Windows and Safari on OSX. I've tried Firefox and some others to see what the hype was about but I never noticed any difference.
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Wait until they start to do real 3D on javascript! Hell, the sunspider test even has an entry called "Ray Tracing" :eek:
 
Mazda 3s said:
Are you running this latest beta of Chrome?

This new beta of Chrome overrides the Gala beta of Flash, so you have to disable it in about : configs to get Gala to become the main Flash plugin. Then, your CPU utilization should go back down.
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Yes, running the latest of both. I did point out that Gala gave flash a boost in Safari but that was only for the flash statistic. It still didn't explain why "Chrome" and "Chrome Renderer" were using about 7x the processing power as "Safari". So Flash performance aside Safari was MUCH lighter on my CPU when watching the video, I have no clue what the hell Chrome was doing to use so much CPU.

Also isn't about : config a FireFox thing? I don't know how to do this in Chrome and basically my search turned up it doesn't have an about : config.
 
Wow watching that video kicked my cpu up to like 80% with three or four chrome processes running.

Umm anyone else seeing this?
 
It's good to have Options in the Browser market. Competition brings good stuff!!!!! Now, how long before Steve bans Google?
 
smithrh said:
I don't yet have Chrome for this exact concern.

I may download it tonight while at home to see what the terms and conditions are - I'm looking to reduce my Google exposure, not increase it.

It's bad enough that they collect my search info, but to know where I'm surfing all the time is just beyond the pale. Now, I don't know that they do this with Chrome, but I wouldn't put it past them either.
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Just a warning for anyone who doesn't like Google getting too close and personal... Getting rid of Chrome isn't easy. Chrome is essentially an installer that places all kind of Google crap all over your Mac. One thing I have big trouble of understanding why Google installs an update engine which is running all the time and separate from Chrome itself. Google should really offer an uninstaller but unfortunately there isn't such thing around.
 
reallynotnick said:
Yes, running the latest of both. I did point out that Gala gave flash a boost in Safari but that was only for the flash statistic. It still didn't explain why "Chrome" and "Chrome Renderer" were using about 7x the processing power as "Safari". So Flash performance aside Safari was MUCH lighter on my CPU when watching the video, I have no clue what the hell Chrome was doing to use so much CPU.

Also isn't about : config a FireFox thing? I don't know how to do this in Chrome and basically my search turned up it doesn't have an about : config.
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Err, I means to say about : plugins. Top arrow is the Flash that the latest build of Chrome installs (should be disabled). Bottom arrow is Gala.

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severe said:
That video was ridiculous, IMO.

What a colossal waste of time and money. Anyone care to guess the cost of such "experiments". And for what?
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What I like about Google is that they're prepared to have fun, even at their own expense. Apple on the other hand are just far too pious these days. They could do with lightening up.
 
ranReloaded said:
Yeah, it took them ages to get the Mac/Linux versions... Or at least it felt like ages.
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RaZaK was right because the Mac/Linux versions are still beta releases.

Chrome is likeable because it's UI snappy and Flash won't crash everything like every other browser. Unfortunately it doesn't support Services so no Text to Speech, no Dictionary lookups, no text substitutions ... it's a phony baloney "Mac" app.
 
ShiftyPig said:
Is there any way to get a "Top Sites" like interface in Chrome? Only reason I stay with Safari tbh because the Firefox extension that supposedly mimics it is garbage.
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Every time you open a new tab in Chrome it has Speed Dial which shows your most used sites. Unlike Safari it is not populated until you visit some sites.

Chrome is a great browser and better than Safari if you like to have lots of tabs open. Safari's tab support is bad, and Glims only goes a little way to solving it. If you compare the startup time of Safari with lots of tabs to Chrome with lots of tabs, Chrome wins hands down. Chrome needs to move the x on the tabs to the left though.
 
dru` said:
Do what? The newest Webkit nightly is still 22% faster than even this Chrome beta. :D
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My test showed a 6% favor to WebKit.. So I'm not that impressed either. I'm sticking to WebKit.app as primary browser still.
 
daveporter said:
I just ran SunSpider Benchmark for Safari (32 bit and 64 bit), Firefox, Chrome, and Opera (all the most recent versions) just to see what I results I would get. I have a first generation Mac Pro, 11 GB of RAM and 4 750 GB Hard drives. Everything else is standard equipment as it came from Apple when new. I ran the benchmarks one at a time with nothing else running on the machine; all conditions were exactly alike for each test.

Here are the results (and their interesting):

Safari (32 Bit)..........467.4 ms +/- 0.6%
Safari (64 Bit)..........402.2 ms +/- 0.9%
Chrome...................332.2 ms +/- 2.9%
Firefox....................928.0 ms +/- 2.7%
Opera.....................379.8 ms +/- 0.8%

Its interesting that Chrome and Opera are the clear winners here. Safari 64 bit is not far behind, Safari 32 bit is not so hot, but Firefox is the real dog in these tests.

There is much more to the overall quality and value of a browser than just Java performance, however, these results are telling.

However, when running a Hulu TV show (SGU Episode) in high resolution and full screen on my 30" Apple Cinema display the playback rate was much worse then it was in the last version of Chrome (where it was actually better than on all the other browsers before the upgrade).

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I ran Sunspider with the Webkit browser, I got a 318.6!
 
Realy good advert for Chrome. But in reality it won't draw anywhere near as fast due to your internet download speed.

It seems some people are easily taken in!
 
ranReloaded said:
You are logged in as an admin user, aren't you? Otherwise you must authenticate everytime you modify the contents of "Applications".
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Huh? I said I'm deleting it, not modifying it. Every other application ever could be tossed in the trash without the need for a password, so why does Chrome want one? And yes, I am logged in as an admin.
 
That is all very fast, shame I wouldn't see any of it on my paltry connection (1mbps). I didn't even know browser speeds were that important or that they were all instant - that it just relied on your connection.
Learn something new every day :eek:.
 
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