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bbyrdhouse said:
I think it would be nice to build a place to put a block of ice on the bottom of the Powerbook. Geez!... this thing is hot 124 degrees!

A lot of people are stepping outside their doors into 124 degrees. :) We should feel lucky only our Powerbooks are that hot. :)
 
bodeh6 said:
Well the Powerbook will be hitting the average on August 2. I don't need to by my computer right now. I am waiting till early September to buy my PB. That gives Apple an additional 30 days to upgrade the Powerbook past the average. Even if they don't update, the current 12" is perfect for my needs.

Im guessing your a student, which is why you dont mind waiting? See, if this were a normal summer, Id be waiting too. However, Ive decided to take summer classes this time around, so computing isnt so much a novalty at this point as it is necessity. The ability to have a portable that I can take into campus at will is key, especially when I have to do presentations and the like.

Im sure Ill be happy with whatever PBook I end up with. The one I demoed for a weekend was very slick, and had a number of intuitive features. I would just get the thing for the pleasing interface, if nothing else. However, there are a ton of cool features, such as the keyboard that lights up when ambient lighting is low, the huge 17" widescreen coupeled with a surprisingly thin and light enclosure...and the list goes on. I am a speed freak, however, and can use that power, so any major updates before intel will be a hit if I go with the one I currently have on order.
 
Macrumors said:
Meanwhile, three new Mac mini configurations are also listed - priced at $499, $599, and $699. As noted by ThinkSecret, Apple does not presently offer a $699 Mac mini model.
Sorta kinda. Resellers offer a wider range of "stock" mini model numbers shipped direct from Apple. Apple sell them through their own store as well, but they are disguised as BTO options.
 
I need a new laptop for law school (macs are fine at my school :D). I'd like a 12" PB, but if the ibooks get bumped by the time I have to buy (one month) and the powerbooks do not, I'll probably be going ibook. It's a fairly large price difference (esp. for someone soon to be deeply in debt) and given how close the models are now, I'm guessing an updated ibook will stack up quite nicely against the current 12" powerbook.
 
MikeLord said:
Well, I already had the my Mini, I have a bad habit of always wanting the latest greatest thing, and resale on eBay make it SOOOO enticing to upgrade. If the new Mac Mini is compelling enough, I'll probably upgrade to it. My nephew may even get my current Mac Mini as an early Christmas present.

Well as crazy as I think you are for selling your computers in anticipation of a product to be announced next year, it is cool that you actually made a profit. It's also too bad that there are hardly any good deals left on ebay these days...
 
alexf said:
No, really? Fill me in... :eek:

But in all seriousness, why do you believe this would prevent the G5 PB from coming out? In case you haven't heard, the first Macs with Intel processors won't be out until 2006, and I highly doubt that Apple will leave a G4 in the PB that long, especially when the "consumer-level" iMacs have had a G5 for nearly a year.

The G5 Powerbook has been long designed (probably over a year ago) and has been waiting for a lower power chip. I doubt that they would throw away all that investment of energy now.

Yes, Apple is moving to Intel, but the G5 is not going away any time soon.


What is all this about Intel?? :D :D

The Snide level is going up up up !
 
$MacUser$ said:
Its a tough situation. Currently, I'm on an '01 Dull that can't do anything except for what youd absolutly need a computer for (ie: word processing, email, etc). The absolute NEED for a computer isnt there, but the desire for a modern computer that is portable is strong, and will develop into need shortly. Both the media drives on my Dull have crapped at this point, so the need is becoming apparent.

I did have the opportunity to demo a new G4 powerbook and it was rather nice. It did move a bit slower than i would have expected, but also surpassed my expectations in other areas. For example, it was able to play KOTOR with all features maxed without too much trouble...however I have heard there are issues later in the game. So then, it would seem it is adequate for what I need it for. Its a damn nice machine.

I realize updates to the PBook are inevitable within the next few months, but how significant they are is where Im stuck. For example, if the next revision was, lets say, a speed bump to 1.8 GHz or something like that, I wouldnt lose any sleep over it. But if it was a semi major revision, like dual core G4 or even :::gasp::: G5, Id crap myself.

My issue is the fact that the current book is super swell, but could be snappier. If a revision came with a sick new CPU or GPU, I wouldnt be pleased. Conversly, if there were only minor speed bumps until intel I wouldnt mind, cause I intend to ebay this thing at intel and pick myself up one of them.


sometimes the stores have the powerbooks energy saver control panel set to something other than highest performance. next time you check one out look for it under the apple menu > system preferences > energy saver.
 
grubesteak said:
Think Secret sux. It's become so unreliable as of late. Same with Apple Insider.
I'm sure that most of the best leads dried up after Apple went all litigious on the rumor sites.
 
So if I purchased a 12" Combo Drive iBook with an HD upgrade on 7/18, and it is supposed to be shipped by 8/1, will I be upgraded to the potential updated models or not? I want to know whether I should cancel the current order or not worry about it.
 
quigleybc said:
I agree, the mini needs more ports for sure, that should be a given upgrade.

Can't wait to see!! :D

In that case, I can't wait to see it either. How are they gonna squeeze more ports on to the back of that thing?
 
Those who think that the iBook and the Powerbooks are too similar (spec wise) are right. The "i" and "Power" prefix are really losing their consumer and prosumer meanings.
Then again, I think that the iBook has it's own charms too, and are perhaps better suited for the mainstream market (who don't put that much weight on the specs)

With this update, I would be tempted to say that the iBook would be "cuter and sexier" (like the iMac vs the Powermac) than the Powerbook... who cares about the slightly lower specs.
 
beatle888 said:
so then enlighten us. where in the keynote does steve say that the PBs WONT get upgraded to a G5? apparently your confusing reality with whats in your head. steve basically pointed out that IBM hasnt offered them a solution and showed a big picture of a PB with a question mark with it. this, to me, means that apple cant wait for the slow pace of IBMs progress. it doesnt mean that G5s wont be in the PB as an absolute.


Oh I don't know. Maybe the fact that jobs did this..........


G5PowerBook.jpg



What does that mean? Read between the lines. Do you have any comprehension what type of changes would be required for Apple to release a SINGLE G5 update before they move to Intel in Spring? If nothing else can you say complete waste of money? If they haven't gotten it done by now they aren't going to release it. If they are going to do a massive revamp to the PowerBook line they are going to simply jump to the Pentium M next Spring. The only possibility is Freescale and even that is a long shot since Apple would need to be getting samples NOW, they would have to be practically drop in replacements for the G4 (Which someone was saying they are.), and would have to somehow be convinced that Moto who would be producing the chips can meet demand. Bet money that Jobs won't risk that.
Bottom line: WWDC marked the death of any chance of a G5 PowerBook one wat or another. The next minor PowerBook bump may be a Freescale but the next major advance will be a dual core Pentium M.
 
Only one thing...

The only thing I really think is an absolute need for upgrading is the measly 32 MB video RAM in the mini and iBook; the iBook has been stuck at 32 MB for a couple years, and now OSX requires at least 64MB for the new graphics processes. Granted, the iBooks and minis are not pro-level computers... but they should be able to match minimum requirements for OSX 'eye candy'.

Then upgrade the PowerBooks to 128 MB VRAM, and all will be well.
 
pags said:
iBooks just went to 5 -7 days on US Apple Store.

5 Days from now is Tuesday. Looks like if you order one now you might get the updated one.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Oh I don't know. Maybe the fact that jobs did this..........


G5PowerBook.jpg



Do you have any comprehension what type of changes would be required for Apple to release a SINGLE G5 update before they move to Intel in Spring? If they haven't gotten it done by now they aren't going to release it. If they are going to do a massive revamp to the PowerBook line they are going to simply jump to the Pentium M next spring. The only possibility is Freescale and even that is a long shot since Apple would need to be getting samples NOW and would have to somehow be convinced that Moto who would be producing the chips can meet demand. Bet money that Jobs won't risk that.
Bottom line: WWDC marked the death of any chance of a G5 PowerBook one wat or another. The next minor PowerBook bump may be a Freescale but the next major advance will be a dual core Pentium M.


as another poster already pointed out it would be to much to change once for the G5 then again for the Intel. so you dont have to worry about that anymore. but your graphic of the keynote still does not say that the future will not have a G5. it simply says...where is the G5. i think it was to illustrate a point at that moment. what your proposing is that the question mark mean "There will be NO G5". when i see it as, "Where is the G5", or "What about the G5". but i really dont care. i shouldnt of mentioned it.

Do you have any comprehension what a ? is....
 
No way will we see G5 Powerbook. The next chip in the PowerBook is going to be the PowerPC 7448 with a faster bus and more cache then the current 7447a.
 
Jay42 said:
In that case, I can't wait to see it either. How are they gonna squeeze more ports on to the back of that thing?

I don't think it is physically possible to put another port on the back of the thing... maybe an audio-in jack, but that would be all. Or, heck, why not put in an optical audio out port so I could get one for my home theater; with digital dolby surround ;-)

But I don't think any more ports will be seeing their way onto the mini anytime soon; the things packed in tighter than a tuna can!
 

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Why of course it will be a Centrino set up in the iBook and macMini!
Why not? They're used for email, browsing, iLife...
OS X is ready for x86!
 
Why do poeple worry about the iBook being better than the PowerBook for a few months? Obviously if the iBooks were updated to near specs of the PowerBook, then the PowerBook would be updated not too long afterwards.
 
bodeh6 said:
No way will we see G5 Powerbook. The next chip in the PowerBook is going to be the PowerPC 7448 with a faster bus and more cache then the current 7447a.

I dont even think this is going to happen. From what Ive read, the 7448 requires a new mobo and may require better cooling than what the current Powerbook offers. I doubt Apple is going to do anything major to the Powerbook (ie: gutting it in favor of a new mobo/chip) until intel. My prediction is that we see only minor speed bumps that at least keep the line interesting until spring 06. Unless its a drop in part at this point, I doubt we'll see anything cool from the powerbook arena any time soon.

That being said, the current PBook is rather nice, especially the top of the range 17. As another poster said, it still has that WOW factor that other manufacturers havent touched. I saw a Dull XPS book commercial the other day, and the thing looks like generic **** with all those lame lights and such it has hanging off of it. They were trying to pawn it off as asthetically pleasing, the thing makes me nauseous! Another thing that makes me sick is all the Dulls I'm seeing on campus. Literally four out of every six people have a Dull laptop. Five out of every six have a PC schisser box.
 
rickvanr said:
Oh, I don't know. Maybe for a faster processor/fsb, larger display, more pixels, slimmer & lighter case, DVI, FW800, Gigabit Ethernet, Scrolling trackpad, digital audio in/out, backlit keyboard and a whole slew of other features that the PB's have, and the iBook's do not.

The iBook's are great, but the Powerbook's are better.

Problem is, the 12" PowerBook lacks a LOT of those "PowerBook features" you just mentionned (and you forgot PCcard slot).
 
grubesteak said:
Think Secret sux. It's become so unreliable as of late. Same with Apple Insider.

get out. get out and never comeback. if it wasn't for TS or AI, there would be nothing NEW about apple anywhere on the net. those two keep the rumor mill churning.
 
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