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New iBooks Next Tuesday?

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Haha, I'm reply #600! :D

But anyway, I figure its next Tuesday or bust. Its been far too long. Also I don't think we'll see the update coming based on the shipping times, b/c if people are waiting, then alot of them must still be available, which means shipping times will stay up.
 
Nah- no updates soon surely...

To update the iBook line apple will need to upgrade the PB line. If they don't, the two are too alike. We all know that...

To make an iBook "up-to-date", Apple would need to up the screen resolution, the v.card, the HD (and it's speed...), RAM etc... It's a lot to take on. If updates do happen before the Intel switch, I'd expect maybe a 5400rpm HD and 512mb standard, but not much more... Which is a shame coz I think the iBook is the product which could win over the most switchers with it's style, portability etc...
 
i stopped waiting for the update. i just bought a 12" ibook and have been having so much fun with it.
 
Tell you what...I was playing with an ibook today that only had the base ram. As in 256.

Jeepers that thing is slow. You get the beachball everytime you click the finder.
 
Lunja said:
Nah- no updates soon surely...

To update the iBook line apple will need to upgrade the PB line. If they don't, the two are too alike. We all know that...
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Not necessary. Between the last iBook update and the last PB update (about 4 month!) we had the same situation. Happened before - will happen again.

From all these discounts Apple gives these days I assume they have a poor quarter and they try to pull orders in.
 
TheSisko said:
And as I said, it is ridiculous that people think that this useless feature ("the ripple") is the pinnacle of Tiger's features. I don't hear anyone complaining that "Oh, my PowerBook isn't fully compatible with Tiger, because it can't do that 64-bit adressing thingy", yet that is a far more valuable feature than some lame-ass graphical effect that was switched off for performance reasons.
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I think you're misreading the situation. People are waiting for the update to get the upgrade in VRAM. If the iBook in its current form cannot handle a gimmick like the ripple in Dashboard then that to me says it would be wise to wait for a better machine. Ripple today, what tomorrow? What's so wrong with that?

Yes, we're getting frustrated with waiting but what's so wrong with that? We can wait and we will.
 
cooknwitha said:
If the iBook in its current form cannot handle a gimmick like the ripple in Dashboard then that to me says it would be wise to wait for a better machine. Ripple today, what tomorrow? What's so wrong with that?

Yes, we're getting frustrated with waiting but what's so wrong with that? We can wait and we will.
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Nothing is wrong with drawing that conclusion. If the scent of an update is detectable in the air (and it clearly seems to be), then exercising patience is the smartest option. The more they pull my chain, the longer I'll wait. In the meantime, I have a computer that is working perfectly.
 
cooknwitha said:
I think you're misreading the situation. People are waiting for the update to get the upgrade in VRAM.
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Well, that will sure NOT get them the ripple, since it's the chip, not the RAM that decides who gets it.

If the iBook in its current form cannot handle a gimmick like the ripple in Dashboard then that to me says it would be wise to wait for a better machine. Ripple today, what tomorrow? .
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The ripple is missing because Apple chose to disable it. According to Apple's own documents (http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2005/qa1416.html), Core Image is rendered on the CPU even on the FX5200 (where the ripple effect is present).

My point is that the ripple is a useless indication on how the machine performs in use.

For the average use, the only benefit of a PS2 capable card would be gaming, and the ripple-effect (if you would call that a benefit). A faster CPU, more memory, faster FSB, faster harddrive...all these upgrades would benefit non-gamers more than a video upgrade. This is the reason most business PC laptops come with fast processors and worthless graphics.

I hope that Apple upgrades these things before wasting money on the redesigned internal reconfiguration required to support another graphics chipset.
 
So some people want the ripple? So what! If people want to wait they will. The fact remains, the current iBook is OLD. The graphics card is old. The VRAM is old. It needs an upgrade!
 
cooknwitha said:
So some people want the ripple? So what! If people want to wait they will. The fact remains, the current iBook is OLD. The graphics card is old. The VRAM is old. It needs an upgrade!
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I want:

iBook
$900
Mobility R9700
1.66Ghz G4
1024MB RAM
80GB 5400RPM
Bluetooth 2.0

Is it going to happen? No.

I'm just saying that Apple, would be wise to spend the least amount of money, whilst bringing the best performance for mainstream users.
And the thing is, that changing the graphics card gives least increase/most cost for Apple. So I believe that this is the least likely upgrade for the iBook, atleast until the low-end PowerBooks, get something better than FX5200.

Because, other than the ripple effect, the FX5200 has next to nothing over the R9200. And I doubt the Apple will give the iBook a vastly more superior card than the cheaper PowerBook has.
 
cooknwitha said:
So some people want the ripple? So what! If people want to wait they will. The fact remains, the current iBook is OLD. The graphics card is old. The VRAM is old. It needs an upgrade!
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[It's not just the iBook that's old... it's the PowerBook (except the SuddenMotionSensor and the Keyboard)]
 
TheSisko said:
This is the reason most business PC laptops come with fast processors and worthless graphics.
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Very true. Before WWDC, one of the loudest and best arguments against Wintel machines was the intel integrated graphics. Even the creaky old card in the current ibook is vastly superior to intel's integrated graphics as currently implemented.
 
Is it worth waiting until June '06__??

Hey Guys... I feel for all of you who have been waiting for an update of the ibook over the last few months because I am in the exact same boat. However, after watching Steve Jobs' speech at the WWDC I am wondering if it's worth it at all to get an ibook right now (in spite of the upcoming universal binaries) or if I should just cut my losses and buy an intel ibook when they are released a year from now :confused:

Is it worth buying now when intel machines will be available next year_? Is the ibook I buy within next month going to be fully functional in a couple of years from now_?

I would appreciate any suggestions or comments :eek:
 
electro_cute said:
Hey Guys... I feel for all of you who have been waiting for an update of the ibook over the last few months because I am in the exact same boat. However, after watching Steve Jobs' speech at the WWDC I am wondering if it's worth it at all to get an ibook right now (in spite of the upcoming universal binaries) or if I should just cut my losses and buy an intel ibook when they are released a year from now :confused:

Is it worth buying a power pc ibook now, when intel ones will be available next year_? Is the ibook I buy within next month going to be fully functional in a couple of years from now_?

I would appreciate any suggestions or comments :eek:
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Ask yourself do you need a new computer now? Is your current computer sufficient for your daily uses? If not wait a week or two and get the new iBook. If you see your computer as fine for the next year or so, then wait and save the money. You don't need to have the latest and greatest all the time. I am typing this on a 6 year old computer for your information.
 
TheSisko said:
I want:

iBook
$900
Mobility R9700
1.66Ghz G4
1024MB RAM
80GB 5400RPM
Bluetooth 2.0

Is it going to happen? No.

I'm just saying that Apple, would be wise to spend the least amount of money, whilst bringing the best performance for mainstream users.
And the thing is, that changing the graphics card gives least increase/most cost for Apple. So I believe that this is the least likely upgrade for the iBook, atleast until the low-end PowerBooks, get something better than FX5200.

Because, other than the ripple effect, the FX5200 has next to nothing over the R9200. And I doubt the Apple will give the iBook a vastly more superior card than the cheaper PowerBook has.
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So why would Apple put a 64mb video memory card in the eMac? Im pretty sure they did. I think 64mb video memory will be in the new iBooks.
 
Rangerhall6 said:
So why would Apple put a 64mb video memory card in the eMac? Im pretty sure they did. I think 64mb video memory will be in the new iBooks.
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I'm not saying they WONT do it, I'm saying its more likely they update other things first, specially since the entire internal configuration has to change anyway next year.
 
electro_cute said:
Is it worth buying now when intel machines will be available next year_? Is the ibook I buy within next month going to be fully functional in a couple of years from now_?

I would appreciate any suggestions or comments :eek:
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Yes and Definitely Yes. The intel transition will not affect most mac users at all. Apple are smart. Trust them.
 
electro_cute said:
Is it worth buying now when intel machines will be available next year_? Is the ibook I buy within next month going to be fully functional in a couple of years from now_?
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I think NOW is the perfect time to buy (pending iBook updates). Why? Because the OS, Tiger is still fresh. And when the Intel machines come out, you DO NOT want to buy the first ones! You DO NOT want to buy during the transition period! So how long does a laptop last, three-four years? That's perfect. So when your existing laptop you buy now becomes outdated (which it will Intel or no Intel) you will buy an Intel laptop. Difference is you will buy it after the Apple-Intel technology has matured and the dust has settled and the transition has been completed.

The next OS, 10.5, is going to be called Leopard. I consider Leapord to be the "transition OS". I will be upgrading my post-update iBook that I will one day buy (once Apple gets of its ***) to Leapord when it comes out in about 1.5 years since there will be a Power PC version of this OS. I will NOT however buy a new Intel Mac during the reign of Leapord. I will NOT be a beta tester for Apple. The first Intel Mac I buy when it comes time to retire this upcoming laptop will be one pre-loaded with OS X 10.6 and not a day before. All this of course is assuming I will be able to retire this laptop and it's not lost, stolen or damaged beyond economically feasible repair and that I live to see the day of OS X 10.6. And yes, I think and plan my product purchases this far ahead :eek:
 
finalcoolman is spot on. As nice as it would be to be one of the first to own a Macintel, I'd rather let it carry on a bit before I jump on board. So as soon as my new iBook (hurry up!!!) is time to change, I hope to then own a Rev B or C Macintel Powerbook.
 
so the only thing that will change with the iBook is possibly processor and RAM? no cosmetic changes will be implemented, right?
 
Bowser said:
so the only thing that will change with the iBook is possibly processor and RAM? no cosmetic changes will be implemented, right?
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i think it'll be the internals changing on this update. i read somewhere that most or all of the product lines will get a major external overhaul when they are manufactured with the intel processors.
 
Excuse me, but why should the macs be updated next tuesday (28th)?

Is there some special event? Where it could be announced?
 
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