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If Intel uses CeBIT to talk about Xeon .. well.. zzzzzzzzzzz

And yes, if there are good sources for GPU production, I'd like to see them. I went searching and couldn't come up with much of anything.
 
If Intel uses CeBIT to talk about Xeon .. well.. zzzzzzzzzzz

And yes, if there are good sources for GPU production, I'd like to see them. I went searching and couldn't come up with much of anything.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26008-nvidias-gk104-now-scheduled-for-march

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25998-amds-upcoming-pitcairn-gpu-detailed

but i dont know if you would call those sources good...

both of these are desktop parts, but the same dies like the top of the line mobile parts, and consensus all around is that when desktop parts are released, same dies appear in mobile parts in a matter of few weeks, thats why i said april. the only thing bugging me is ivy bridge

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-confirms-notebook-ivy-bridge-delay/15039.html
'As far as we're aware, Intel will still be launching its desktop parts in April, although we're hearing that the actual launch date might have changed. Intel's partners are still set to show off their motherboards at Cebit early next months, albeit without Ivy Bridge processors to demo them with and they won't be allowed to run any benchmarks at the show, although this would be mostly pointless without the new processors.'

there should be somekind of introduction by intel on cebit. havent found nothing on xeons
 
It amazes me how many people participate in this forum without reading the front page. Just a few days ago an article came out saying the IB processors that iMacs would use are on track for an April release.

Sure it is rumor, but the original report that they were delayed into summer came from Digitimes, i.e. the people who throw a thousand rumors against the wall until one sticks out of luck.

Also, iMacs don't traditionally come out in the May-June time because they traditionally come out every nine months (meaning their release cycles through the year).

I think that early April is a good bet. Putting two product launches in the same month is not sometime Apple traditionally does, and considering Apple usually gets Intel processors early, that fits well with the "original" (though delayed from the real original release of Januaryish) release date of sometime in April.

Personally, I think anyone who has bought an iMac in the last month - two months that didn't NEED it made a bad decision, and some are hoping their purchase is more justified by a later iMac release.
Can you link me to this article that says they are slated for an April release (I can't find it)?
 
its not the link you were talking about, but these links also say that theyre the ivy bridge processors are coming out end of april, hope it helps


http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120303PD205.html

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/22582

http://news.techeye.net/chips/ivy-br...nch-april-29th
Thanks, that is awesome so yea I always thought it would be the 8-10 week delay but looks like that's not happening afterall. Now from the first article it mentions Notebooks repeatedly was the iMac/desktop name just not noted?
 
So those who put off buying a new iMac waiting for the March release, will have to wait even longer?

Glad I did not wait!

Also glad they did not release a new one yesterday, I am one week out of the return period! :D
 
So those who put off buying a new iMac waiting for the March release, will have to wait even longer?

Glad I did not wait!

Also glad they did not release a new one yesterday, I am one week out of the return period! :D

I just feel the people waiting will be very disappointed. Apple keeping same design of iPad for 3rd year running, iPhone & Macbook Pro are only things i see changing this year.
IMac maybe next year, i cant see a company as Apple redesigning so many big products in one year as the following years will be dual spec bumps, they need to have thing for next year. The iMacs now are great but Apple has people thinking they need latest, some on 2011 iMac will update to 2012 just to say they have latest. Sad.

Me personally i cant keep giving my wallet to apple knowing there are more important things in life. Thats just my take, each to there own though.
 
if people have money to upgrade why do you care what they do with it?

as it turns out, it's actually not that expensive to maintain the "latest and greatest" with apple if you sell your old equipment. Since the second hand market for apple products is so huge, the resale value stays pretty high. If you can sell your year old iPad and upgrade to a new one for <$100 why would you not? If you can get the brand new iMac for ~$150, what's wrong with upgrading every year? When I can sell my iPhone every year and upgrade to the new one, AND make $100 each time, why wouldn't I?
 
So those who put off buying a new iMac waiting for the March release, will have to wait even longer?

Glad I did not wait!

Also glad they did not release a new one yesterday, I am one week out of the return period! :D

I'm glad you didn't either! Honestly, I din't hear anyone seriously talking about a march release of the new iMac. Most people believe it to be released between April and May.

But I am glad I waiting. USB 3/Bluetooth 4/Upgraded GPU are some of the things that make it worth it to me, but then again, these may not matter to you.
 
So those who put off buying a new iMac waiting for the March release, will have to wait even longer?

Glad I did not wait!

Also glad they did not release a new one yesterday, I am one week out of the return period! :D

Sadly I did wait and looks like at least another month of hoping the old Dell doesn't die on its feet.
 
if people have money to upgrade why do you care what they do with it?

as it turns out, it's actually not that expensive to maintain the "latest and greatest" with apple if you sell your old equipment. Since the second hand market for apple products is so huge, the resale value stays pretty high. If you can sell your year old iPad and upgrade to a new one for <$100 why would you not? If you can get the brand new iMac for ~$150, what's wrong with upgrading every year? When I can sell my iPhone every year and upgrade to the new one, AND make $100 each time, why wouldn't I?

The thing is where is best to sell an iMac given the size/shipping, fees going through ebay, or risk of getting robbed through craigslist?

Not good options there unless some place else
 
I'm glad you didn't either! Honestly, I din't hear anyone seriously talking about a march release of the new iMac. Most people believe it to be released between April and May.

But I am glad I waiting. USB 3/Bluetooth 4/Upgraded GPU are some of the things that make it worth it to me, but then again, these may not matter to you.

GPU upgrade is a moot point since on the iMac since they use an external GPU card.
 
Okay, I'll try to act like that makes a whole of sense.

I'm just pointing out that the Intel Gpu is not used on the iMac so any improvements on the Intel Gpu chipset is moot.
Unless you have inside knowledge that the refresh IMac will have an upgraded, faster and more ram external/add-on Gpu, then I'd like to see that facts behind a Gpu upgrade.
 
I'm glad you didn't either! Honestly, I din't hear anyone seriously talking about a march release of the new iMac. Most people believe it to be released between April and May.

But I am glad I waiting. USB 3/Bluetooth 4/Upgraded GPU are some of the things that make it worth it to me, but then again, these may not matter to you.


USB 3?
The only thing I see that good for at this point is external drives.
I'll take Thunderbolt over USB 3 for that purpose.

Bluetooth 4?
Well I guess it *might* be useful, the only BT devices on hand here are the Keyboard, Trackpad, and Mouse and I cannot type/track/mouse faster than the current USB can process.

Upgraded GPU -
I have the current top AMD Radeon HD 6970M with 2GB GDDR so I am probably well off in that respect. I guess if I was a *gamer* I might be worried, but I am not. If I was a gamer, I'd be doing that on a different platform and not the iMac.


My last iMac is 4 years old, and it pretty much can do all the work I need to do today with the exception of image editing. Image files are much larger than they were 4 years ago, the old iMac showed signs of age.

I'm not one to buy a computer for bragging rights, I have tasks to complete and purchases according to those tasks and potential future demand.


But hey, look on the bright side for you ....... now that *I* bought my new iMac, the updated one will be released real soon. Apple always waits until *I* buy a new computer before they release the new one! :D
 
I'm just pointing out that the Intel Gpu is not used on the iMac so any improvements on the Intel Gpu chipset is moot.
Unless you have inside knowledge that the refresh IMac will have an upgraded, faster and more ram external/add-on Gpu, then I'd like to see that facts behind a Gpu upgrade.

I am not referring to Intel's integrated new 4000 GPU series. I am talking about a new mobile GPU either from AMD or possibly Nvidia that will be a welcome upgrade alongside the other things I mentioned.

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It sounds like a lot of people who just bought an iMac are coming up with all these reasons why the 2012 iMac isn't going to be that "good" of an upgrade.

Well that's just fine for you guys! Enjoy your 2011 iMacs and leave me to enjoy my soon to be new 2012 iMac.

BTW.. Thunderbolt externals are about 5X the price of USB 3.
 
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[/COLOR]It sounds like a lot of people who just bought an iMac are coming up with all these reasons why the 2012 iMac isn't going to be that "good" of an upgrade.

Well that's just fine for you guys! Enjoy your 2011 iMacs and leave me to enjoy my soon to be new 2012 iMac.

BTW.. Thunderbolt externals are about 5X the price of USB 3.[/QUOTE]


It's a computer dude, chill out. If you can afford to buy and already expensive iMac why can't you buy TB external. Enjoy your not released product but do know Haswell is not yet released so another mac will only be a few months away after the 2012 release.

Anyway enjoy you're not released computer. Hope your not trolling sites daily for iMac release date cos that would be sad.
 
BTW.. Thunderbolt externals are about 5X the price of USB 3.

Are you looking for performance, or are you looking for cheap?

Thunderbolt connector offers more than twice the speed ....
USB 3 = 4.8Gbps TB = 10Gbps
Thunderbolt connector offers more that twice the power for devices....
USB 3 = 4.5 watts TB = 10 watts

Downloading 25GB HD Movie:
USB3 = 60-75 seconds
TB = 30 seconds

Cost? ( nearly 5X?? )
Let's look at RAID Arrays.....
Thunderbolt 4TB Raid Array = $1029 $257.25/TB ( Promise Tech )
Thunderbolt 6TB Raid Array = $1595 $265.83/TB ( Promise Tech )
USB 3 .......5TB Raid Array = $1299 $259.80/TB ( RAIDBank5 )
 
Are you looking for performance, or are you looking for cheap?

Thunderbolt connector offers more than twice the speed ....
USB 3 = 4.8Gbps TB = 10Gbps
Thunderbolt connector offers more that twice the power for devices....
USB 3 = 4.5 watts TB = 10 watts

Downloading 25GB HD Movie:
USB3 = 60-75 seconds
TB = 30 seconds

Cost? ( nearly 5X?? )
Let's look at RAID Arrays.....
Thunderbolt 4TB Raid Array = $1029 $257.25/TB ( Promise Tech )
Thunderbolt 6TB Raid Array = $1595 $265.83/TB ( Promise Tech )
USB 3 .......5TB Raid Array = $1299 $259.80/TB ( RAIDBank5 )
For RAID, you are paying more for the cloning hardware than the raw HDD.

A 1TB USB3 external HDD costs about $120.
How much does a Thunderbolt 1TB external HDD cost? (If one even exists).
 
For RAID, you are paying more for the cloning hardware than the raw HDD.

A 1TB USB3 external HDD costs about $120.
How much does a Thunderbolt 1TB external HDD cost? (If one even exists).

I no longer deal with drives that small.

My needs are for RAID systems, and sorry but USB 3 doesn't hold up in that arena.

I do however have 2 TB and 3 TB external FW800 drives, but those are being replaced by dual Thunderbolt RAID Arrays.

I am in it for PERFORMANCE ..... not in it for CHEAP !!!
 
Figured I would chime in with my 2 cents....

I bet that the iMac keeps its same design for the mid 2012 model.

I would imagine i5 and i7 Ivy Bridge (no brainer)

AMD HD 7000 series

Probably USB3, if not thats a shame. Yes, we know how thunderbolt works, But USB 3 only makes sense. Its freakin USB afterall, its pretty standard accross the board.

Hopefully cheaper BTO SSD options...

The late 2012 or 2013 model will see a radical design overhaul.

I think the products that will get any sort of radical overhaul for 2012 will be the Macbook Pro.
 
I no longer deal with drives that small.

My needs are for RAID systems, and sorry but USB 3 doesn't hold up in that arena.

I do however have 2 TB and 3 TB external FW800 drives, but those are being replaced by dual Thunderbolt RAID Arrays.

I am in it for PERFORMANCE ..... not in it for CHEAP !!!
You didn't even address the question. :confused:
You merely puffed your chest & tried to change the subject.

Are you an Apple politician? :p
 
I just feel the people waiting will be very disappointed. Apple keeping same design of iPad for 3rd year running, iPhone & Macbook Pro are only things i see changing this year.
IMac maybe next year, i cant see a company as Apple redesigning so many big products in one year as the following years will be dual spec bumps, they need to have thing for next year. The iMacs now are great but Apple has people thinking they need latest, some on 2011 iMac will update to 2012 just to say they have latest. Sad.

Me personally i cant keep giving my wallet to apple knowing there are more important things in life. Thats just my take, each to there own though.

I'm waiting and I assure you I will not be disappointed by the next iMac refresh whenever it is. My iMac is 4 years old, so any refresh will pretty much give me twice as much computer (as I have now). Just hope my iMac holds out until then, otherwise I'll have to be satisfied with the current iMac, which will still be significantly better than what I have. But since I can wait, I will.

I know some people who buy a new car every year. Who are we to tell someone else how they should spend their money or on what? And why should we care?
 
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