Isn't that an ergonomic issue? I thought it was best if the top of your monitor was at eye level or slightly below?
i used to have mine above my eye level and i was getting headaches and neck issues...
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Isn't that an ergonomic issue? I thought it was best if the top of your monitor was at eye level or slightly below?
i used to have mine above my eye level and i was getting headaches and neck issues...
I think you're right there - I've just recently stuck a monitor stand *and* a box on top of it to prop my 22" Xerox TFT here at work to the point where the top level of the viewable area is about an inch above my vision if I stare directly ahead and that position, with the main viewable area just a bit below my natural viewing height, seems to encourage perfect posture; ie straight back with the natural S shaped curve and chin tucked slightly in.
Although admittedly being 6' 1" tall my arms would have to be of bloody weird proportions to meet the desk at right angles!
nothing but love
I officially switched over to mac yesterday and bought myself a new iMac. The computer itself is great, very quick, and the graphics look great I don't know what all the fuss in regards to the graphics card is about. I was able to run Half-Life 2/Counter -strike through bootcamp/vista and the game plays and looks great.
i have 2 questions:
1 - Does using the new iMac at full brightness kill the lcd at a much faster rate ? Is it generally bad to use the brightness at a high level because it kills the screens brightness in the future?
2 - Is it bad to be running bootcamp/vista on the iMac and playing processor intensive games such as half life. Basically, does running vista thru bootcamp overwork the iMac??
-GC
I officially switched over to mac yesterday and bought myself a new iMac. The computer itself is great, very quick, and the graphics look great I don't know what all the fuss in regards to the graphics card is about. I was able to run Half-Life 2/Counter -strike through bootcamp/vista and the game plays and looks great.
i have 2 questions:
1 - Does using the new iMac at full brightness kill the lcd at a much faster rate ? Is it generally bad to use the brightness at a high level because it kills the screens brightness in the future?
2 - Is it bad to be running bootcamp/vista on the iMac and playing processor intensive games such as half life. Basically, does running vista thru bootcamp overwork the iMac??
-GC
I'm near the NH border, so it's the Rockingham store for me. Bringing the wife up there today to check them out. Problem is, they sold out of the 24" models yesterday. Hopefully they'll get more in soon, if I decide to pull the trigger. I save 6% with my EPP discount on the iMacs. If we decide the glare is really an issue at home, I can always sell it. I'm sure I wouldn't have a problem selling a "new" iMac at a 6% savings.
No, I didn't order the wireless keyboard since my wife indicated her disfavor with the key spacing. The wireless mouse is not a new design so I assume it's immediately available.
I suspect the additional time is due to Apple supplying their own stores first, forcing the smaller 2nd tier Apple Specialist retailers to wait in line. I guess it's the price I'll pay for wanting to work with the friendly local guy whom I've known and done business with for years.
Ok, I see your point. I do about 5 hours a day writing or reading. So I guess then if you are a software coder, it wouldn't make much sense to get an Imac. Guess only the macbook pro and mac pro desktop are the only options. maybe apple just feels that Imac's are geared towards people who prerrty much surf the web, edit photos, and check email. That's pretty lame though with such a powerful computer.
I got my hands on one yesterday finally. The store was sold out yesterday, but I got to use the display units. It's much sexier and solid looking in the flesh.
I think it looks sweet. But I´m very happy with mine. I had it for almost a year and still it dosen´t seem very dated, at least not in the hardware department.
I was suggesting that perhaps this is why they still run 8X superdrives in the iMac: because a vertical superdrive can never spin as smoothly as a horizontal one.
To whom do you send 50 GB of data? Except for pros and porn swappers, network capacity has caught up to the need for data portability. It's easy enough to send less than 10 GB to someone. I'm looking forward to the day when optical drives are seen the way Zip drives used to be: a pro-level niche product for people who have to frequently transport enormous amounts of data. The rest of us can just upload and download and copy onto each other's flash drives and iPods: no need to cart around a bulky optical drive.
Got mine
I went back to the store today and they had the 24" in stock so I grabbed one. I went basic because it will be a web machine mainly but added iWork which really looks nice. 24", 2.4, 320, 1 G and extended warranty.
Test drove one in the store before buying and it is awesome in person. Yes it has some glare in all those brite lights but won't where I am going to put it. Display is really sharp! Keyboard is ok but definitely better then old Mac KB. This is my first Mac and I will probably swap the keyboard and mouse so look on eBay for them soon
I will add more after set up.
I went back to the store today and they had the 24" in stock so I grabbed one. I went basic because it will be a web machine mainly but added iWork which really looks nice. 24", 2.4, 320, 1 G and extended warranty.
Test drove one in the store before buying and it is awesome in person. Yes it has some glare in all those brite lights but won't where I am going to put it. Display is really sharp! Keyboard is ok but definitely better then old Mac KB. This is my first Mac and I will probably swap the keyboard and mouse so look on eBay for them soon
I will add more after set up.
I'm hoping to sell my current 15" MacBook Pro so I can pick up one of these this weekend. Unfortunately, I don't have enough posts to make an ad in the Marketplace forum. Time to start posting like mad.
Time to start posting like mad.
It's unfortunate because the iMac is their only "mid-range" machine.
The Mac Mini and Macbook are entry-level and intentionally crippled. The Mac Pro and MBP are very expensive if you get a "full-sized" (read: large) monitor. They cost over $3 large in my country if you buy them with a Dell 2407.
The iMac splits the difference, and (in Apple's favor) is basically disposable so that you have to go running back to the store for another one every 3-4 years. If only they'd gear it towards businesses and professionals a little more by giving it a real screen, it would be a great office computer.
Shiny screen? Oh, the Huge Manatee! I even hate the shininess of the screen on my Treo for crying out loud. I find it frustrating and distracting indoors and out. Sitting in front of a 24" mirror all day would send me to the loonie bin.
Actually he's right, the hotter the silicon gets the faster it ages. If you run the everloving snot out of your iMac, you will technically reduce its' lifespan.
Fortunately, it will go obsolete *long* before you ever kill it with use. Apple uses top-quality components and designs their machines to l-a-s-t. There are people still using 15-year-old macs as print servers in their offices simply because they've never had a reason to replace them.
How was that for "tastes great and less condescending?"
Got mine (iMac 24") home today. OMG I can see a little reflection (glare) in it. I moved it up a half an inch and there is absolutely no glare. I am amazing. I just solved a problem by applying basic science principles. I even have a 8 foot by 4 foot window in the room where all of the light comes in.
The new keyboard might just kill me....
I've just spent 5 mins playing with a new iMac...
The new keyboard...ARRGGHH!! Most importantly, they have crippled Expose. After 4 years of F9, F10, F11 being hard coded into my brain, now I've suddenly got to learn F3, or else press the FN button plus the F9, F10 and F11. I can pretty much do without F10, but no single buton "show the desktop (F11) is a killer for me. I don't currently use a Mighty Mouse, but I think it might take over Expose actions, and I've got some serious re-learning to do. I can see a significant productivity hit coming when I upgrade... Finally, if you forget that things have changed, then you find yourself muting or turning down the audio !!!
I'm just hoping that Leopard has some sort of panel in System Prefs that allows you to set your keyboard back to the old style, with the function keys not needing FN to be pressed, and the ability to assign the multimedia controls (audio levels and eject) to the F16-F19 keys above the num pad.
Why would Apple decide that we all need to learn a new set of keys for things that have become instinctive to so many seasoned users. And why turn elegant single keystroke tasks (tile app windows, show desktop) into ungainly two simultaneous key actions, with the FN key located somewhere that you hand rarely goes ! When the hands in the standard typing position (fingers on ASDF.... HJKL and thumbs on the space bar), getting up to FN and pressing F11 is hella awkward...
http://images.apple.com/imac/images/gallery/keyboard_3_20070807.jpg
I'm not that excited about the tactile feel of the new keyboard, but that might just be a 'getting used to it' thing. However, something tells me that the price of the old style wireless keyboards on the second hand market (those with the full num pad and old school keys) just got a lot higher.
Other observations....
-glossy screen does have more reflections, but your brain ignores them pretty quickly. Not so sure about the eye health / brain strain issues with this though, however I suppose its no different to an old CRT or a TV
-overall look is quite nice. Definitely not ugly, but neither does it make me think "work of a genius" like previous Apple products
I've just spent 5 mins playing with a new iMac...
The new keyboard...ARRGGHH
!! Most importantly, they have crippled Expose. After 4 years of F9, F10, F11 being hard coded into my brain, now I've suddenly got to learn F3, or else press the FN button plus the F9, F10 and F11. I can pretty much do without F10, but no single buton "show the desktop (F11) is a killer for me. I don't currently use a Mighty Mouse, but I think it might take over Expose actions, and I've got some serious re-learning to do. I can see a significant productivity hit coming when I upgrade... Finally, if you forget that things have changed, then you find yourself muting or turning down the audio !!!I'm just hoping that Leopard has some sort of panel in System Prefs that allows you to set your keyboard back to the old style, with the function keys not needing FN to be pressed, and the ability to assign the multimedia controls (audio levels and eject) to the F16-F19 keys above the num pad.
Why would Apple decide that we all need to learn a new set of keys for things that have become instinctive to so many seasoned users
. And why turn elegant single keystroke tasks (tile app windows, show desktop) into ungainly two simultaneous key actions, with the FN key located somewhere that you hand rarely goes ! When the hands in the standard typing position (fingers on ASDF.... HJKL and thumbs on the space bar), getting up to FN and pressing F11 is hella awkward...http://images.apple.com/imac/images/gallery/keyboard_3_20070807.jpg
I'm not that excited about the tactile feel of the new keyboard, but that might just be a 'getting used to it' thing. However, something tells me that the price of the old style wireless keyboards on the second hand market (those with the full num pad and old school keys) just got a lot higher.
Other observations....
-glossy screen does have more reflections, but your brain ignores them pretty quickly. Not so sure about the eye health / brain strain issues with this though, however I suppose its no different to an old CRT or a TV
-overall look is quite nice. Definitely not ugly, but neither does it make me think "work of a genius" like previous Apple products
imac
The new imac is much better than the previous model. The glare is not as bad as many have complained. I worked with the older imac for more than two years, and I can confidently state that the new imac is far better. It does take some time to get used to though, especially the keyboard. But I find myelf making fewer spelling errors on the new keyboard and it makes far less noise than the older keyboard. The new imac is thinner than the older model as well.
The new imac is much better than the previous model. The glare is not as bad as many have complained. I worked with the older imac for more than two years, and I can confidently state that the new imac is far better. It does take some time to get used to though, especially the keyboard. But I find myelf making fewer spelling errors on the new keyboard and it makes far less noise than the older keyboard. The new imac is thinner than the older model as well.
I've just spent 5 mins playing with a new iMac...
The new keyboard...ARRGGHH
I'm just hoping that Leopard has some sort of panel in System Prefs that allows you to set your keyboard back to the old style, with the function keys not needing FN to be pressed, and the ability to assign the multimedia controls (audio levels and eject) to the F16-F19 keys above the num pad.
Why would Apple decide that we all need to learn a new set of keys for things that have become instinctive to so many seasoned users
http://images.apple.com/imac/images/gallery/keyboard_3_20070807.jpg
I'm not that excited about the tactile feel of the new keyboard, but that might just be a 'getting used to it' thing. However, something tells me that the price of the old style wireless keyboards on the second hand market (those with the full num pad and old school keys) just got a lot higher.
Other observations....
-glossy screen does have more reflections, but your brain ignores them pretty quickly. Not so sure about the eye health / brain strain issues with this though, however I suppose its no different to an old CRT or a TV
-overall look is quite nice. Definitely not ugly, but neither does it make me think "work of a genius" like previous Apple products
I went back to the store today and they had the 24" in stock so I grabbed one. I went basic because it will be a web machine mainly but added iWork which really looks nice. 24", 2.4, 320, 1 G and extended warranty.
Test drove one in the store before buying and it is awesome in person. Yes it has some glare in all those brite lights but won't where I am going to put it. Display is really sharp! Keyboard is ok but definitely better then old Mac KB. This is my first Mac and I will probably swap the keyboard and mouse so look on eBay for them soon
I will add more after set up.
Absolutely NO glare issues, don't let the worriers scare you away. Remember this is my first Mac and still have my loaded Dell Latitute D820 for work. Since I am a Mac newbie I can't do a few things which is frustrating but overall it's very positive. I absolutely HATED the old Mac keyboard but can live with this one just wish the keys and mouse were black to match everything else. Love the 24" unit itself, really nice looking easy to set up. The case is nicely shaped, glass (black) Apple logo stands out really nice and the screen WOW the screen. Buy it you won't be disappointed.
Glossy Screens?
When you are a student in Singapore, your average time spent on the computer is definately more then 5 hours. Thats why I am wondering what consumer level is Apple aiming its supposedly consumer level products... kids? Can't be. In the modernzing world you can't expect the young to ONLY spend 5 hours on the net. But its kinda overkill to get a youth a professional machine JUST for the MATTE screen... why can't Apple just offer matte as an option?
When you are a student in Singapore, your average time spent on the computer is definately more then 5 hours. Thats why I am wondering what consumer level is Apple aiming its supposedly consumer level products... kids? Can't be. In the modernzing world you can't expect the young to ONLY spend 5 hours on the net. But its kinda overkill to get a youth a professional machine JUST for the MATTE screen... why can't Apple just offer matte as an option?
Got a 20"
I went for the 2.4GHz 20". My tendancy is to always purchase the middle model because, well, I buy new Macs way more often than I should.
Anyway, so far, so good. You'd think from reading through this thread that the screen is completely ususable with all its evil gloss and glare. But I'm going on eight hours straight without a single complaint. Of course, I grew up with displays that were made of nothing but glossy glass.
I went for the 2.4GHz 20". My tendancy is to always purchase the middle model because, well, I buy new Macs way more often than I should.
Anyway, so far, so good. You'd think from reading through this thread that the screen is completely ususable with all its evil gloss and glare. But I'm going on eight hours straight without a single complaint. Of course, I grew up with displays that were made of nothing but glossy glass.
I've just spent 5 mins playing with a new iMac...
The new keyboard...ARRGGHH
I'm just hoping that Leopard has some sort of panel in System Prefs that allows you to set your keyboard back to the old style, with the function keys not needing FN to be pressed, and the ability to assign the multimedia controls (audio levels and eject) to the F16-F19 keys above the num pad.
Why would Apple decide that we all need to learn a new set of keys for things that have become instinctive to so many seasoned users
http://images.apple.com/imac/images/gallery/keyboard_3_20070807.jpg
I'm not that excited about the tactile feel of the new keyboard, but that might just be a 'getting used to it' thing. However, something tells me that the price of the old style wireless keyboards on the second hand market (those with the full num pad and old school keys) just got a lot higher.
Other observations....
-glossy screen does have more reflections, but your brain ignores them pretty quickly. Not so sure about the eye health / brain strain issues with this though, however I suppose its no different to an old CRT or a TV
-overall look is quite nice. Definitely not ugly, but neither does it make me think "work of a genius" like previous Apple products
Can't you change the hot keys on the keyboard?
I'm not sure !!! The Expose prefs still said F9, F10, F11, but I needed to hold FN to access them.
Perhaps this is some help (especially reply 4)....
http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/10/keyboard-software-update-1-1-is-available/
From what I can glean from this, there is already some option in the Keyboard prefs to rollback to the stanard function key functionality. I'll have to have a play in the shop for longer next time.... perhaps when I'm not out shopping with my 2 y/o son, who just doesn't get Apple (yet!!!!!)
