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The iphone accessory business is too damn sweet for apple licensing business to change the lightning port into usb-c. That’s pure tim crook.
 
So here is a question, I don't have anything with a USB-C port for charging. If I were to buy an iPhone 12, and it comes with this cable: Would I still be able to use one of my USB A to Lightning cables to charge the phone, or even connect to the Mac? Just hoping Apple isn't planning on forcing USB C "is my main question"
Of course you can use USB-A to Lightning.
 
These look nice and all, and I'm sure they feel better when handling them... but I've never understood people complaining about the regular Apple cables. I've NEVER had one fray on me. They get discolored after a few years, but they don't fray, as long as you're not a complete moron when unplugging them. Careless people grab the cable and pull. Smart people (and there don't seem to be many of them) grab the connector and pull. Less stress on the connecting point, and no fraying.
  • Scenario 1: Charge your phone on your nightstand, as the cable slopes down to the ground where the outlet is, the cable will get permanently bent at the Lightning plug end due to the effect of gravity alone. Occasionally switch the bending direction by accident and you are slowly bending the cable back and forth.
  • Scenario 2: Use your phone or Ipad while plugged in. In addition to the bending through gravity, it’s easy to yank on the cable when moving the device too far from the charging brick. Even if the brick is at the end of an extension cord, that’s still extra weight pulling on the cable and the brick might get stuck on something as you move your device around.
  • Scenario 3: You pick up your device while it is plugged without realising that fact.
Let‘s say you pick up your phone during the night while it is charging. There is a good chance triggering the second scenario. In none of the scenarios you are unplugging the device by pulling on the cable. It’s gravity, getting stuck on something, or accidental behaviour.
 
Of course you can use USB-A to Lightning.
I was hoping so, For some reason I had the thought that Apple was going to up the power requirements if they were switching from A to C for USB, however now that I think about it, that would be a really stupid thing to do. But it wouldn't be their first.
 
IKEA has had better braided lightning cables for the price of two sandwiches for some time now.
 
Waiting for the users who manage to destroy a braided cable in a week as well. Then claim Apple cables "suck". Lol

I have had an apple lightning cable for 6 years. No fray. It finally bit the dust when the outer jacket started to disintegrate.
 
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So here is a question, I don't have anything with a USB-C port for charging. If I were to buy an iPhone 12, and it comes with this cable: Would I still be able to use one of my USB A to Lightning cables to charge the phone, or even connect to the Mac? Just hoping Apple isn't planning on forcing USB C "is my main question"

of course that would work fine.
 
To be fair I haven't had problems with their normal cables for the past few years. Before that the ends didn't so much fray as rupture.

Are we expecting the braided cable with all the new phones, or to be Pro only? I'll be happy if my mini doesn't come with a cable at all!
 
Well, I hope they make those standard as Apple cables are of the lowest quality, from 30 pin to lightning to whatever they all start to shred themselves near the connectors after some time.
 
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The only usb-c device in my house is a Nintendo Switch and it’s a perfect of example of the problem with usb-c, Nintendo does not recommend the use of 3rd party chargers and cables. If I was traveling and want to bring a shared charger brick and cables with any other devices (imagine if I owned a usb c laptop or iPad) I would have to scour forums to find I need at least 22.5W PD specs and that my cable needs a 56k ohm resistor. How can anyone expect a normal consumer to know that? They see a plug that fits and they stick it in. USB-c is a Quixotic crusade for tech geeks that read the verge and macrumors.
 
why usb-c just for 1 year...since from 2021 iphone goes port-less

So far this remains a theory, as there are quite a few technical & sentimental challenges Apple would need to overcome. Imagine the number of accessories people have accumulated + CarPlay still requiring iPhone to be plugged in + an old good backup on a computer, etc.
 
I've been holding out on buying a couple replacements till these come out. Hopefully they are more durable than the junk they've been shipping for years.
 
Absolute f idiocy which makes me want to NOT buy an iPhone again.

Apple put a god damn USB-C in it. Why this joke of a cable that I now have to carry around with me all the time so I can charge my phone, when my iPads and Macbooks all have USB-C DIRECT charging without stupid dongles. Such a waste.
I have enough extra unused lighting to USB-A that this doesn't bother me one bit. My 7th gen ipad has lightning.

No matter what Apple did, there are those who wouldn't be happy.
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No "courage" to rip that lightning bandaid finally off. Pathetic.
"Courage" to keep it.
 
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So, we moved on to USB-C and are now omitting the charger from the box. Great, but why are the cables of the brand new Apple Watch still USB-A? Or did I get this wrong?
 
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I embraced the usb-c lifestyle at the start of the year, and won’t be buying a phone without it. I know a lot of people won’t get it, but for someone on the road a lot having a power bank and ac adapter that works with everything without swapping out cables would be bliss. Just the phone and mobile hotspot to go.

I can now fast charge a battery bank and my laptop from the 12v plug with just a couple of usb-c cables in between meetings. Makes me cringe thinking about back in the day having custom DC to laptop charger or inverters in my car 😅
 
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For those complaining that they have to carry multiple cables.. why not just buy a USB-C to lightning adapter?

I have a handful I bought for a few bucks from Amazon, I keep one on my keychain(for when I'm not at home or with my own cables), and the rest are tied to the ends of my other USB-C cables that I use.
 
So here is a question, I don't have anything with a USB-C port for charging. If I were to buy an iPhone 12, and it comes with this cable: Would I still be able to use one of my USB A to Lightning cables to charge the phone, or even connect to the Mac? Just hoping Apple isn't planning on forcing USB C "is my main question"

The simplest solution would probably be getting a small USB A male to USB C female adapter. A quality one is between 5-10$. I am in the same boat, but am planning on getting the new Air, so that will come with the 20W power adapter. I would still need this extra dongle, though, to connect any of my devices to the MacBook Pro from 2015.
 
Why does Apple think a stress relief is optional or not necessary on a cable? Even if these are Kevlar reinforced, the wires inside are still copper, and that's still brittle and prone to fatigue at stress points.
 
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The simplest solution would probably be getting a small USB A male to USB C female adapter. A quality one is between 5-10$. I am in the same boat, but am planning on getting the new Air, so that will come with the 20W power adapter. I would still need this extra dongle, though, to connect any of my devices to the MacBook Pro from 2015.
I'm sure if I had to, finding an outlet with charge ports of type C isn't also hard these days. I have surge protectors with USB A ports of about 2.1A capacity.
 
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