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Notch size doesn't bother me, I'm more interested in 120Hz, bigger battery, camera improvements and what not for the 13, I'll be upgrading from my 7+ and I'm hoping there is a genuine black option that comes close to beauty of the Jet Black of my 7+
 
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I have been saying this for years but some Apple fanboys claim it's impossible.

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Wow, I can do a hundred of photoshop compositions like that placing and sizing sensors whatever I like. Is so easy in photoshop.
No need to be a fanboy to say it’s not possible, just need to know some few things about physics.
Of course we all would love that design.
 
Jeez, just get rid of Face ID, this pandemic exposed it for what it is, limited in use. Ultrasonic fingerprint, secure and convenient in any scenario. No risks involved with having to remove your mask, and potentially exposing yourself to this air borne virus that's out of control. This stubbornness of keeping FaceID, reminds me of Blackberry refusing to get rid of the physical keyboard. And the blind followers of Blackberry supporting that decision.
 
This isn’t the iPhone 12 / 13.
It’s the iPhone 12 mini (you can tell by how cramped the status icons look).
The notch on the iPhone 13 mini looks much better and won’t get in the way of UI elements like it does in the 12 mini.
 
what about those bezels...in 12 design they look much bigger
Sigh the designers can'r win , can they? If they have a bezel to hise the spekar/ cam people complain about the bezel because lost screen space, and if the introduse to aximise screen real esatete ( ie just remove enough screen to fit whatever needs to have no screen in front of it) gues what, yuck the notch is so ugly, wel we could always remove the se,fie cam, but FaceTime etc. We cant have eveyrhing and the notch is only a problem in landscape, people realy need to get a life
 
Jeez, just get rid of Face ID, this pandemic exposed it for what it is, limited in use. Ultrasonic fingerprint, secure and convenient in any scenario. No risks involved with having to remove your mask, and potentially exposing yourself to this air borne virus that's out of control. This stubbornness of keeping FaceID, reminds me of Blackberry refusing to get rid of the physical keyboard. And the blind followers of Blackberry supporting that decision.
Optical please. Ultrasonic gives issues with tempered glass screen protectors.
 
Jeez, just get rid of Face ID, this pandemic exposed it for what it is, limited in use. Ultrasonic fingerprint, secure and convenient in any scenario. No risks involved with having to remove your mask, and potentially exposing yourself to this air borne virus that's out of control. This stubbornness of keeping FaceID, reminds me of Blackberry refusing to get rid of the physical keyboard. And the blind followers of Blackberry supporting that decision.
Expised it for what it is, you mean a tech to id a face rhat does bpnot work when about half the face is covered, yea bug deal, here is the thing : it was never designed to wirk in this case as it was nit a need at the time it was designet ( or not a significant one anyway), so as compitent engeneers the ones at apple decided to ignore that ( at the time p} edge case, and then civid-19 showed up, and with hindsight that choice ofc does not seem good, but what js the wurst result of face id not working, ,et me check ....... oh you need to type your passcode, well is that a big deal? Imho no, but use-cases may wary
 
have to say the notch on my 12 pro max doesn't bother me. yet some how the small tear drop on my old OnePlus 6T really pissed me off.

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that said, any indisplay finger print reader i used on Android (like the Oneplus 6t) was extremely temperamental. it's a good idea but definitely not as reliable as Face ID. i'm quite happy to wait for Apple to get it working properly before putting it into an iPhone.

BUT we did just get an inbutton touch id on the iPad so why not put that in the iPhone? Face ID is good but these days with masks still being worn (by people who aren't idiots) and with the race to get to all display phones then why not just put in the inbutton reader and all that leaves is the problem of what to do with the selfie camera?

if Apple put out an iPhone with a hole punch then i'll take that until tech improves enough to put a camera under the screen for photos/video. i know some phones have done it already but the implementation is poor.
 
I have been saying this for years but some Apple fanboys claim it's impossible.

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It is indeed possible... ...on iPad.
On iPhone it would require smaller components and Apple won’t change production costs specially at those years. Actually with such small bezels I think it’s a no way back for that and Apple clearly made the decision of not getting into this direction.
 
That one pictured is actually even more or at least same invasive that the rumored notch. I would prefer a small punch hole instead, without a doubt

Personally I don’t prefer either; for me it’s a notch or no notch - never a punch hole. Ok, I know, “never say never”...
 
I keep getting all these messages about people replying to me, but they're not. So, while I'm on the stage, I picked frowning Chloe, because that's the best Chloe. If you don't know what I am talking about, just go find the best video game ever made.
 
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I see notch as necessary
Just because we don't mind it doesn't mean we wouldn't like it gone.

You can have meshed viewpoints, you do realize that, right?
I see notch as necessary pain in the ass. Face ID is great, but status bar is ****, also any video is garbage.
 
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Agreed. It really is sort of nice because it splits the top status bar in two nice information corners that give you just enough information and looks very symmetric. If more information is needed, just pull down control center.
It's possible to have two nice information corners without an ugly black blob in the middle. I would also say that if you can't fit in the battery % then there needs to be more space in the corner.
 
This is all such a bunch of crap. I was the first person in my office to have a Bellboy pager. It had two notification tones. I used one for the office and the other for my home. There was no display. You simply went by the tone to know who to call. Then, I got a digital pager. I could actually get a number displayed so I could call them back as soon as I could get to a pay phone. After that, I got an alphanumeric pager where people could actually send me a short text message. When I got my first "brick" phone, I was thrilled! It cost a fortune to make and receive calls, but I could actually talk to someone. Now, we have small cellphones that can do almost anything and all we're worried about is a notch? RIDICULOUS!!

Totally. Reminded me of this sketch! 😉

 
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