New iPad Pro Models May Be Prone to Bending

[JP913]

Your logic it skewed. You keep implying that it’s a problem with people who don’t have “common sense” which is very strange and simply false. Accidents happen to the most fastidious and careful of people. Since accidents happen to everyone, then everyone would obviously want their iPad to be as durable as possible while still being cutting edge (super thin, light, no bezels). The new iPad is cutting edge and can even bend in half.

I never said anything about accidents. Of course accidents happen. And when they do, of course things break.

I’m not going to cry when my iPad falls off a table onto a concrete floor and gets dented or shatters. That’s just how that goes sometimes. Crap happens.

But you can be smart about it. You can treat your expensive toys like the expensive investments they are, and maybe not leave them laying around for kids who have no reverence for money or property to mess up.

 

[FelixDerKater]

"may be." Translation: Don't sue us.

 

[Fiachers]

When you bend things they bend. When you scratch things they scratch.

With respect, please give me a break. I think it is simply objectively true that Apple's standards in every department has been slipping (except marketing, yes I am this cynical now), an appalling record the last few years. Frankly I agree with the other popular comment on this article that, well, I'm just done with Apple, myself. It would all be somewhat tolerable if the products themselves weren't so overpriced. They have overstepped a line of greed here, and it will destroy the company in the long run. Have you seen the prices in Europe? Utter madness (and no, taxes, currency conversion etc. isn't an excuse, the prices are completely and utterly insane). I don't even care about arguing back and forth about it on Apple forums anymore, I'm just sick of Apple's cr*p these days

 

[spiderman0616]

With respect, please give me a break. I think it is simply objectively true that Apple's standards in every department has been slipping (except marketing, yes I am this cynical now), an appalling record the last few years. Frankly I agree with the other popular comment on this article that, well, I'm just done with Apple, myself. It would all be somewhat tolerable if the products themselves weren't so overpriced. They have overstepped a line of greed here, and it will destroy the company in the long run. Have you seen the prices in Europe? Utter madness (and no, taxes, currency conversion etc. isn't an excuse, the prices are completely and utterly insane). I don't even care about arguing back and forth about it on Apple forums anymore, I'm just sick of Apple's cr*p these days

Then don't buy it. And if you do buy it, don't be an idiot and grab it from both ends and bend it in half. I don't know what else to tell you other than that. Use your brain.

 

[Kid Red]

The drawback of having a protruding camera and users who lay it flat without a case is the possibly of a slight bend. Just make it a little thicker so the camera is flush!!!

The youtube is idiotic, aluminum is pliable. I've had gen1 and gen2 ipad and my younger son has cracked both screens. It's a thin, light touch screen. Handle it dedicating. If you want extra protection, then you put it in a structurally sound case (something I never did).

 

[cocky jeremy]

Duh?

 

[beanbaguk]

What is the point of all this bending nonsense????

 

[Shiro_Simba]

I'm with you and it's very sad. There was a time when a new iMac or Macbook pro was a real screamer, top-end machine. Now I'm looking at the laptop offerings from Asus that are just as beautiful thin and light, have 2.5X processor performance, 4X graphics card performance, 2X SSD storage, 4K touchscreen and €1000 euros cheaper and I'm finding it impossible to justify. I want to stay with Apple and OS but I feel like I'm being taken for a mug and I really don't like it. And that's from a loyal Apple customer.
I don't think the build quality is even what it was either.
I don't see any reason to buy a new iphone over the one I have and there's no way I'm spending €1200 on one for the kids. Besides, the SE is the only one small enough to fit in their hands and pockets so Apple have just dumped the only first phone available in their line up. I were buying for them today it couldn't be an Apple so they have probably lost customers for life.
They've definitely made a wrong turn at a time when the competition is hotting up from the likes of Huawei.

Spot on. Exactly how I feel. And you nailed it , when you said that the quality is not there any more . This penny pinching is ridiculous. My 2015 MacBook Pro being a better machine than my 2017 MacBook Pro, cause one was designed with the user in mind while the other gimmicks and ££ from accessories - though even if I’m wrong about that , MagSafe and having actual ports is a winner . Though u lost is everyone I hit delete key to have Siri pop up .... dumb design

 

[Dresling]

This parody from @SnazzyQ is just awesome.

 

[Spazturtle]

Please list some pro devices or objects that are less structurally sound or more “delicate” than amateur versions of the same device or object. Pretty sure there aren’t examples as that wouldn’t make any sense.

One example of the opposite to what you are suggesting are the service computers, laptop, measurement boxes I work with in the automotive sector. Very rugged stuff that can be thrown in a concrete wall or driven over and survive.

Can you give us some examples that supports your statement? I'm genuinely interested.

Microscopes, Telescopes, and imaging equipment are a easy example that get more delicate the more high end they get.

 

[shagans982]

News flash, anything thin is prone to bending.

 

[anthogag]

Only to people that self-identify with Apple. To all other people, most of all those that have bought or are planning to buy one, it's highly informative to see durability tested. The very dry humor alongside is bonus.

Okay. This video shows when you're having a bad day you can destroy your iPad. Stab it with knives and, in the final act of your rage, you can bend it.

 

[deckard666]

Apparently my Samsung and Lenovo tablet bend too - who knew ?

Yuu know if I pick up a device and use it I can tell if it it’s fit for purpose - at no point have I ever picked up a phone or tablet and thought “yes this bends real easy” Perhaps if I was superman I would

 

[anthogag]

Why? I’m glad those videos exists. If it is pure nonsense it will ampen quickly. But I don’t see any nonsense and see it as an opportunity for Apple to make their products premium, not only in price butin durability as well.
If it weren’t for this kind of videos, buyers who have trouble and complain are crying in the dark. It happened with the iPhone 6, magic keyboard II, butterfly keyboard and lots more.
What if it happened to you? We all know Apple doesn’t listen to its customers. If they did the state of the Mac wouldn’t be so sad and they would have much more marketshare and still able to make a profit. Not that exorbitant amount of today, but at least they would have more and happier customer base and an admirable brand name.

The video is stupid. Pretty much anything will scratch when you stab it with knives or other sharp objects. The new iPad is a large thin light device. Apple would have to start using more exotic materials to make it unbreakable in the bend test. Would you pay $3,000 for an iPad you could use like a frisbee or maybe chop onions on the screen.

 

[saxofunk]

Here's why I think they intentionally design these products so thin:

1. an easily broken product is a frequently replaced product.
2. thin design supports the accessory industry.
3. thinner designs use less materials, which lowers the bottom line.

 

[BarredOwl]

What is the point of all this bending nonsense????

The real nonsense is Apple attempting to sell sh*t products at premium plus prices.

If they insist of charging exorbitant prices and the products are not built with the best design, materials, and production then loyal customers like me will criticize them infinitely and refuse to buy.

They can either get their sh*t together, or see their revenue drop and the criticism become white-hot.

 

[germulus]

Apple's new 11 and 12.9-inch models are its thinnest yet, measuring in at just 5.9mm, and both forum complaints and a new bend test video suggest the two devices have the potential to bend without a huge amount of force.

On the MacRumors forum, there have been a few complaints of bending from MacRumors readers. Forum member Bwrin1, for example, posted a photo of a bent 12.9-inch iPad Pro suggesting it had bent from just a weekend trip in a backpack.

The iPad Pro in question does indeed appear to have a curve to it, refusing to lay flat on a table. At the same time, YouTuber JerryRigEverything has posted a bend test video of the new iPad Pro, which indicates it has the potential to bend with a limited amount of force.

In the video, the iPad Pro snaps in half after what appears to be a moderate amount of pressure is applied to the device.

Despite the video and the forum complaint, this does not appear to be a widespread issue. There are a couple of other complaints from MacRumors readers who were seeing slight curves in their devices and received replacements or sent the tablet back, but there aren't complaints that match the complaints we saw back in 2014 with the original iPhone 6 Plus bendgate.

It's not clear if the new iPad Pro models are more or less bendable than previous devices, and bend tests are not reflective of real world usage conditions. All devices of this size will bend when enough force is applied, so it is no surprise to see the bend in the YouTube video.

If the new iPad Pro models are bending from regular use, that could be a more significant issue, and we'll need to keep an eye out for additional reports of bending to determine whether there's a serious problem with Apple's newest tablet.

Article Link: New iPad Pro Models May Be Prone to Bending

 

[BarredOwl]

Here's why I think they intentionally design these products so thin:

1. an easily broken product is a frequently replaced product.
2. thin design supports the accessory industry.
3. thinner designs use less materials, which lowers the bottom line.

Right-on.

 

[germulus]

If I buy a (insert expensive Hypercar here) and spend a crazy amount of money, does this still mean that it won't dent, break, get stone chips, scratched etc.... NO. My point is, EVERYTHING has a breaking point and it always will regardless of price.

 

[jlseattle]

So I'm going to make this argument. After having had a hands-on with the iPad Pro I have determined that it is structurally weak. Just as demonstrated. One of the biggest selling points to me with apple products (including the Macbook Pro I'm using to type this one) the structure is very sound. I'm disappointed that a moment in a backpack could spell issues in the long run. With a device this expensive, even if you are careful, you could slip on ice and fall on your back (which I've done with my Macbook Air in my back-pack). In that event there was only slight damage and it was barely noticeable. I know that this iPad would fold like tin can if I did the same thing. It's ridiculous that they don't put the right materials into the product and strengthen the structure.

SO I'm considering purchasing but I think I'm going to go to the previous generation. This one seems like one to skip. The only use case I can see this ipad being used is where you only have the iPad in one place and only use it there (don't want to use on the couch or bed where it could get covered up and sat on, which is likely and I've done with my ipads and the old sturdy ones were fine). Even my iPhone X is more sturdy and I can leave anywhere.

I wonder if there is going to be lawsuits for the lack of structure they put into the iPad Pro. Ekkk.. There needs to be some responsibility for companies to produce products that pass some structural integrity tests.
[doublepost=1542644976][/doublepost]Apple needs to pull the current iPad Pro and do this immediately:

https://www.macrumors.com/2015/08/10/iphone-6s-addresses-bendgate-video/

Quote from another user:

Here's why I think they intentionally design these products so thin:

1. an easily broken product is a frequently replaced product.
2. thin design supports the accessory industry.
3. thinner designs use less materials, which lowers the bottom line.​

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Right-on.

I'll make a counter argument.

It's actually more expensive to make a thinner product from a design perspective and manufacturing perspective. It takes more effort to take the current design (previous generation iPad Pro) and add the new features. This was an error on the engineering part. The disconnect is between engineering and quality control. They should have learned from the iPhone 6 versus 6s (as I posted up earlier). They just missed some steps.

 

[BarredOwl]

Everything Apple is doing lately in software and hardware substantiates that they only want to produce disposable products that require lots of services and accessories.

My fury with the whole ongoing Apple quality problem is that I want to spend the absolute smallest amount of my precious time dealing with Apple’s inept support staff and system.

I don’t want to have to spend hours on the phone or burn a day waiting in an Apple store to get a device swapped or repaired. I also don’t want to have to argue with a “Specialist”, “Expert”, “Genius”, or manager in order to get my express replacement.

I just want the sh*t to hold up to actual professional (and careful) use and last the duration of the AppleCare+.

I demand that a mobile device actually be mobile.

 

[9081094]

The video is stupid. Pretty much anything will scratch when you stab it with knives or other sharp objects. The new iPad is a large thin light device. Apple would have to start using more exotic materials to make it unbreakable in the bend test. Would you pay $3,000 for an iPad you could use like a frisbee or maybe chop onions on the screen.

Thats not the point of the video. I understand that you have to be careful with any electronic device. But the point is that this new iPad is so fragile, that bending is too easy. Much easier than earlier iPads. There is no reinforcements of any kind in the new iPad and the aluminum tin is as thick as a Coca Cola tin.
The device is designed for portable use and we all know what happens with portable devices, how careful you might be with it.

The second point of the sapphire glass used for the lens, is that it is a pure marketing selling point without harden the glass in any way. Something you expect when sapphire is used. It's a very thin coating on the glas, that doesn't do a thing!

So the new iPad may have a great processor and a great screen, but for a portable device without a back bone it will be prominent for bending. Every portable device should have some kind of firmness. Unfortunately the new iPad Pro hasn't and that the point Apple won't tell you, but those video's do!

I'm very happy those video's exist so I can make a solid decision. As long as this iPad doesn't get more firmness, it's not for me.
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If I buy a (insert expensive Hypercar here) and spend a crazy amount of money, does this still mean that it won't dent, break, get stone chips, scratched etc.... NO. My point is, EVERYTHING has a breaking point and it always will regardless of price.

If you looked at your shiny new Hypercar, you heart pounds and you will be very careful with it. Sure there will come chips and other user traces over time... that's normal. What's not normal is that it will bend if you sit in it and that it can't with stand bumpy roads. Your Hypercar is designed for driving, but if it's stiffness can't handle your weight, it's a complete useless car.

Thank god there are regulation tests for that to prevent it to be sold or appear on the road! Unfortunately there aren't such regulations for a portable device yet. After the bending gate (of which Apple knew in front, and Apple gave those after a judge asked for those evidence), Apple should know better! But no! We had bending problems with the Magic Keyboard II and now with the iPad Pro. I'm sure they already knew before those products came to market. If not, they have a big Q&A problem. But greediness and a pure focus on money made them decide to sell it, hoping everybody will buy a new cover with it too!
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This parody from @SnazzyQ is just awesome.

Stupid video but it shows that the iPad Pro is definitely easier to bend. The guys fingers changed color from the pressure he made on it, something you won't see on the new iPad Pro.

 

[chanerz]

Expensive bend gate pro

 

[WestonHarvey1]

This parody from @SnazzyQ is just awesome.

Looked a lot harder to bend.

 

[twistedpixel8]

It looks like you haven’t seen the video. It demonstrates even to a level of electron microscope proof and molecular composition that it is indeed sapphire. You tell me where is the “blatant” false advertisement and “dishonest”. when Apple says it uses sapphire.

Pure sapphire? No. Some sapphire composite that defeats the purpose of it even being sapphire? Sure.

By your logic, I could put a tiny piece of diamond inside a piece of plastic and tout that it's diamond.