You're asking from the pov of a consumer, not a shareholder
I still think they're going to eventually kill iPadOS and merge the two after the iPad sales slow down even more. They have to or else the Surface is going to start eating their lunch.
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I still think they're going to eventually kill iPadOS and merge the two after the iPad sales slow down even more. They have to or else the Surface is going to start eating their lunch.
Resorting to workarounds due to lack of support isn't simple. What's simple is everything working without roadblocks, like on macOS.
This right here. This is, and always has been, the largest obstacle with iOS/iPadOS/tvOS app development.
Currently, every iPad app must be fully compatible, and function well, with the iPad Air 2 and iPad mini 4. Both of these devices use relatively ancient hardware. You cannot publish an app that only works with the M1 iPad Pro, or any iPad Pro for that matter. And this is if your app targets the latest SDK. Most don’t, meaning even older devices must function properly.
Safari is crippled on the Mac as well. I have had sites that just don't work with Safari. It's not as much of an issue because there are fully functional options available on a Mac. On iPadOS, everything is forced to use the same crippled technology and a full browser isn't available. That's absurd for a device which is a window into the internet.
I don't expect an iPad to be a fully fledged MacOS device. I just won't buy one until they make it a full fledged citizen of the internet. Do that with external monitor support on the Pro models and I will actually consider buying it. For now, it's not worth the money to me.
And getting better lol, in my opinion of course. Wireless DeX is glorious on the latest Galaxy devices. Take it from a guy who dips his toes in every ecosystem pool in the tech world🤣Wait, IS Samsung DeX even still there?
Are you talking about dollars or unit sales? Apple sells more iPads than any other vendor sells laptops and that’s been true for years, so yes, there are more folks buying iPads than Mac laptops.
The Mac still does a VERY respectable business and, with the switch to using iPad parts, it’s now even cheaper for them to continue to make Macs. They’ll keep making them for as long as they’re profitable, but lot of people buying them today won’t be buying them in 20-40 years.
Dex is a killer app in my mind... I have an S7 as well and love Dex, the fact that it's wireless and lag free is pretty crazy.
Being able to "stream" iPadOS in a "Dex" like way would be crazy, and I imagine they'll eventually provide that... of course when it happens it will be touted as "revolutionary" but whatever, I'll still be happy to have it.
I think there is a growing number of people who are choosing between the 2 now.You're asking from the pov of a consumer, not a shareholder
I still think they're going to eventually kill iPadOS and merge the two after the iPad sales slow down even more. They have to or else the Surface is going to start eating their lunch.
Frankly, I would like to see the iPhone (and iPad) expand out to a desktop (it is more than capable now) if you hook it up to a TV or monitor (and keyboard/mouse). That would be the ultimate travel device. Windows Phone did that but I forget what it was called. Windows phone did have a few good features.
I don’t see the logic in pricing the iPad Pro as an alternative to the MacBook. I use them for very different tasks. My MacBook is for content creation and work whereas my iPad Pro is for content consumption. The touchscreen is perfect for scrolling through newspapers, magazines and news websites. Replacing both devices has become a very expensive option.
I had to chuckle at your prognosticating out to 25-40 years, not because I think you’re wrong about changed buying habits, but rather because in 25-40 years it is very likely we will have taken at least one leap ahead technology-wise, and it’s almost a certainty that laptops won’t be anything like what they are today - heck, computing itself will have likely changed from what we know it as today.
A 12.9 iPad Pro is actually more expensive than an equivalent 13" MacBook Pro w/M1, 16GB, 1TB. Go figure.
It's more about how some things just can't be done on iOS for no apparent reason. For example, the other day, a friend asked me how they could translate YouTube comments. I told them to simply select the comments and copy paste them into Google Translate. Well, you can't select comments nor copy them in the YouTube app. In iOS, there is no way whatsoever to select comments, copy them, and paste them. There are countless little annoying things like this that you take for granted on any computer made in the past 50 years.
Apple makes iPad Pros for people that want to buy iPad Pros, though. That’s why the features they have at the price they offer are enjoyed by folks that buy iPad Pros. If someone wants to buy an iPad Pro and use it ONLY for consumption, well, Apple’s not going to stop them. However, there are likely far cheaper iPad devices at a range of prices and sizes that might fit their needs better.
With the prices they charge for a 2tb you could buy 2 MacBooks . People are saying ohhh WWDC and iPadOS 15 but nothings changed since the last couple of times.Did you hear that? It's everyone on the internet saying to just buy a Macbook then.
I've thought the same thing, but never posted it knowing what the response would be...
Not to mention even before you throw in a magic keyboard for 200-300 bucks extra over the normal price of an ipad, makes me wonder if they take us for suckers or are they playing a hidden card under their sleeve.
The iPad Pro is priced for the people for whom a high end iPad makes sense. Artists like the nice screen and the Apple Pencil. Video editors may use it to do some light editing. Some photo editing is good. In other words, the people who use iPad Pro for more creative purposes KNOW that the iPad Pro will work for them. The big difference for many of these people is the Apple Pencil. If you’re an artist, the iPad Pro can be an indispensable tool, more valuable than a Mac. For the rest of us, the iPad Air is fine. Also, the professionals I know who use an iPad Pro still have laptops or desktops. The iPad is almost an “accessory” to their other computers. The point is that everybody has their case for owning the device they own. It’s interesting seeing commenters discuss their different use cases. To me, an iPad Pro is like a Mac Pro: if you need one, you know it. Otherwise, you probably don’t NEED one, even though you may WANT one.
For whatever reason, YouTube doesn’t want you to do that in the YouTube app. I don’t know what their reasons are, but there you go. However, youtube.com works in Safari on iPadOS the same way it does in macOS and you can copy the comments. When Apple went from OS9 to OSX, there were a LOT of frustrated people that just refused to “get” OSX. A lot of people worked through the pain, even the things that didn’t make sense and, as a result, they became more proficient on OSX. It’s the same kind of thing here.
Are there things that can’t be done in iPadOS? Certainly. Are there things that CAN be done in iPadOS that I don’t know how to do? I’m fairly certain of that, too. But, when the time comes that I need to know how to do those, I’ll figure it out because that improves my ability on the OS.
IPadOs is a kid's OS. Totally not worth the money. Get a proper computer with even more battery time (MB air or pro)
What a shame if the year Apple announces Final Cut, Logic and Xcode for iPad it‘s a virtual event with no developers present.
I use my iPad Pro (2018 12.9”) as my daily driver, as I will the new 2021 I’ll be getting in a few days, for both my work (basic business use - product development and management, customer management, sales, etc.) and during off hours for entertainment and hobby use. It’s what I love about it - it’s dual personality, being able to function effectively as a laptop for work, and then as a tablet when I don’t need the keyboard.
It’s funny how when we talk about the price of the iPad Pro being high (compared to the MacBook Air/Pro 13”, but really Apple offers a bunch of devices that all fall within a very narrow range. The iPhone Pro Max with a screen 1/4 the size of the iPad Pro 12.9” can cost the same as the iPad Pro 12.9”, and the same is true with the MacBook Air/Pro 13”. You can also get an M1 iMac with a screen 3 times the size of the iPad Pro for effectively the same price. So what items are priced right, priced low or priced too high?
Some of us were skewered for even suggesting that after the reveal.
I think this is a straw man. iPad Software is widely considered, particularly on this site, as sub-par and holding back the potential of the iPad.
Interesting. Just checked out the website and it seems like a windowed version of the same data back end (on a separate screen) that’s on the device. Almost entirely unlike having a device that switches automatically between macOS and iPadOS. It’d be more like… having iPadOS that displays content in windows that LOOK like what folks are used to on macOS when an external screen is connected. BUT it would not run macOS apps, it’d run iPadOS apps that would change themselves to fit within the window metaphor.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Dual purpose.
It was also a “veiled” way of inferring that many macOS folks will have moved beyond it.Interesting that we have so many hardware rumors and leaks and yet, when it comes to iPad OS 15…very little.
People have been saying that ever since the iPadOS rebranding reveal. People say the same thing about Siri every year due to Apple buying up AI startups / experts left and right.
I only have so much hope left in me. At this point I‘d settle for basics like Calculator and Weather on iPadOS and call it a win.
But yes, the M1 making its way into iPads does excite and hype me for what iPadOS 15 may bring. WWDC can‘t come soon enough.