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Maybe the camera looks like that because the phone will be waterproof. Everything is a trade-off.
how so? this years galaxy S7 is waterproof but yet the camera hump is smaller than last years hump and that a fact. so NO not everything is a trade off.
 
And the ugly designs era continues in Apple. Deciders and Designers(yes, including jonny ive) are so arrogant, they are keep trying so so hard to prove themselves as better designers. Same concepts, same designs, just changing few ugly bumps here and there. Apple without Steve is never a complete world! God bless Apple

You want to know the true definition of arrogance? When some random poster online thinks they know better than someone like Ive, who is not only highly regarded by fellow designers, but has literally seen hundreds of billions of dollars of products sold around the world that he was responsible for.

Let me know when you reach that level, and maybe your opinion will count.
 
I usually upgrade my iPhone with every major revision, I started from the 3G, than the 4, the 5, and than the 6plus, so Apple has only made things confusing. For the first time I am going to take the risk and hang onto my phone for another year for the iPhone 8, in my opinion the iPhone 7 ain't worth locking myself into another 2 year contract just for the removal of the headphone jack and that hideous camera layout which is even bigger on the iPhone 7 Plus.

You still have the option of a 2 year contract?
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Hmmm the 6s looks better, that is one ugly camera hump.

Yeah, thankfully the 6s will still be available for those who find this one ugly.
 
I usually upgrade my iPhone with every major revision, I started from the 3G, than the 4, the 5, and than the 6plus, so Apple has only made things confusing. For the first time I am going to take the risk and hang onto my phone for another year for the iPhone 8, in my opinion the iPhone 7 ain't worth locking myself into another 2 year contract just for the removal of the headphone jack and that hideous camera layout which is even bigger on the iPhone 7 Plus.

This can't be the iphone 7. I'm positive they will call this the iphone 6SE.

I think Tim will be fired this year if there isn't a killer figure like wireless charging.
 
You want to know the true definition of arrogance? When some random poster online thinks they know better than someone like Ive, who is not only highly regarded by fellow designers, but has literally seen hundreds of billions of dollars of products sold around the world that he was responsible for.

Let me know when you reach that level, and maybe your opinion will count.
The best design are the result of collaborations, and Ive doesn't have Jobs to say, "Ive that doesn't work."

"Do this" or "think of this" or "try again".
 
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The best design are the result of collaborations, and Ive doesn't have Jobs to say, "Ive that doesn't work."

"Do this" or "think of this" or "try again".

Correct. Which is why Ive has an entire team of designers to call on for input.
 
Wow, some people seem upset that they have the minority opinion when it comes to the aesthetics and utility of this design. As if Apple hasn't been giving the "screw you" to its customers across most of their product lines lately. It's not personal... just (bad) business. Clearly we all want amazing products to purchase.
 
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If there were, they were at the bottom of the list. But if it came to giving up any of the function for the form, I would choose the function every time. ALWAYS function over form. Look at the iOS redesign. I think the new look they came out with a couple years ago looks like crap, but I downloaded it because it had new functions that I wanted.

I agree, which is why I think the iPhone is unnecessarily huge and for me that's a big functionality issue.
 
Nope, it's just that most people will use a case so it doesn't matter how the phone looks. What matters is iOS and hardware components. That's just me though.

I don't really mind a couple of years of S type updates. S versions are usually the better ones to buy. It's on Apple to learn how to sell them better. The iphone 6 plus, for example, went from a laggy piece of bendable crap to usable with the S version.

Some years ago it was supposed that if one person was that mediocre he was not Apple's target audience. These days, it looks like he's exactly its intended target. The only one stylish computer company, getting destroyed by bean counters and mediocre buyers, it's sickening.
 
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This can't be the iphone 7. I'm positive they will call this the iphone 6SE.

I think Tim will be fired this year if there isn't a killer figure like wireless charging.

No he won't. And wireless is a killer feature? Sure it is, when you have to shell out for several expensive (compared to a cable) wireless pads to place everywhere you want to lay down your device to charge.

I'd need 2 for home (office/den and bedroom), one for work and one for my car. And if I need to pick up my charging phone to answer a call or check an email, it stops charging. Wireless charging is highly overrated. It's only very very slightly more convenient (and a fraction quicker) then simply setting my iPhone down on a dock or plugging it in. It's not revolutionary or mind blowing and it doesn't have any meaningful impact on my daily usage.

I'm not spending money on something that offers me so very little in return.
 
I will stick to my 2 year old iphone 6 and go another year. I dont see the point in upgrading. I'm still on ios8 anyway.

The new iphone in the fall is gonna have what? Better camera? Faster processor? Better battery? Big freakin deal. thats not worth paying $600 for, no thanks.

Secondly i never understood the fascination with having a case for your phone. Its not a damn ferrari its a freakin phone for cripe sakes. The cases make it more bulgy in your pocket and half em dont even protect it. To protect you gotta have and otter box which is even worse.

first part of your comment makes sense but the second part contradicts the first one.

you don't want to waste $600 to upgrade but you are ok with using it naked. one drop, there go $150 or more to fix.

beside, it is your choice to not use a case but other people like to protect their phones. everyone has their own choices. no need to force your own opinion on others.
 
Now this is innovation.

All the creativity will be at the keynote when they explain why it is magically better than everything else that has ever existed.
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You want to know the true definition of arrogance? When some random poster online thinks they know better than someone like Ive, who is not only highly regarded by fellow designers, but has literally seen hundreds of billions of dollars of products sold around the world that he was responsible for.

Let me know when you reach that level, and maybe your opinion will count.

...and you actually believe that?
 
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like, for real?
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The bumps are hardly comparable
 
You want to know the true definition of arrogance? When some random poster online thinks they know better than someone like Ive, who is not only highly regarded by fellow designers, but has literally seen hundreds of billions of dollars of products sold around the world that he was responsible for.

Let me know when you reach that level, and maybe your opinion will count.

I think what's worse is people endlessly forgiving poor design because of reputation and past glory. "Applogists". This design is poor and lacking any true effort whatever you think.
 
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Looks very fake. Compare the space between materials on the 6S vs the alleged 7 - either that alleged 7 is a prototype or an early sampling.

But of course this forum will eat it up because for some reason it's filled with anti-Apple shills nowadays.
 
Looks very fake. Compare the space between materials on the 6S vs the alleged 7 - either that alleged 7 is a prototype or an early sampling.

But of course this forum will eat it up because for some reason it's filled with anti-Apple shills nowadays.

Because for the last few years all the leaks by this stage have been accurate. Nothing to do with "shills". That's what the iPhone 7 (or 6SE) will look like. I said similar to you when I saw the first iPhone 6 leaks because I thought better of Apple design, I've learned since then...
 
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