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Don't know about the S3, but the Google Nexus's 8MP camera has 3 more megapixels than the iPhone 4's 5MP camera but takes blatantly worse photos. But it has more megapixels! How could it be worse?!

It is a well-known fact that with a given photo sensor size, and therefore limited light coming in, adding more pixels just reduces the pixel size to the level where each pixel just receives noise because there isn't enough light. There is for every sensor size an optimal number of pixels, and for most cheap cameras that optimum is at six megapixels. Most cheap cameras have _too many_ pixels for their sensor size.


It's not that the fingerprint is bad, but it's just too little! It doesn't even have NFC! No 4.8-5 inch screen, no NFC, probably no widgets and no true multitasking! Thank you but no, I'm not changing my perfectly good iPhone 4 for just the fingerprint senzor! If this is all that they release this year, then I'm giving up on Apple and switching to Android!

When you are sarcastic like that you should mark it clearly, or many people won't get it.
 
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What do people want out of their phones these days??? Make your coffee for you and walk your dog? I don't really want a larger screen... it's supposed to fit in your pocket...
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned that the fingerprint sensor could mean no home button at all. You could wake and unlock the phone with one action.
 
-Fast settings
-NFC
-possibility to connect an USB stick
-print on ANY printer
-change your standard browser/email App
-multitasking (I mean MULTITASKING, not that background thing on iOS)
-multiwindow
-live widgets (at least for weather, calender)
-possibility to install flash, if you still need it
-bluetooth sharing
-lockscreen information

and so on and so on.
p.s.1: for every App you mentioned above, there is an equivalent on the Play Store (except for garage band - don't know, because i only used it on the Mac for ring-tone-creation)

p.s.2: Why cant you just accept other peoples thoughts, only because for them the iPhone is not holy anymore? That guy your quoting obviously has an iPhone until now and if he is considering a change, he seems not to be satisfied with it anymore. I did this step half a year ago, and never regretted it - and as it is MACrumors and not iOSrumors i still claim the right to write here :)

Yeah you have the right to write here, as everyone else. But if you dont like something ignore it and choose what you want. We all know what samsung Phone has. Your comment is useless and in my opinion stupid. You dont understand the apple philosophy, its clear. I have never ever, entered in android forum to explain why iphone is better than S3 and ill never do it. Dnt know why android fans have the need to do it....S3 has more megapixels, more inches, more funcionality and conectivity, Apple dont thing that those aspects make one phone a great phone, accepte it.

And before say something, I have android and idont like it and the only ason i haveit is because its is cheap and it makes calls and has whatsapp.
 
This is getting ridiculous.
The whole Samsung is innovating / apple isn't thing. There is not a single person on here that will say why android is better aside from widgets / customizations/ hardware bumps. Windows has more features to change the look of your desktop, does that make it superior to OSX ? Hell no.

iPhone will sell regardless of innovation. It's the branding. Out of the millions of units sold a very minute number of people even know the difference in megapixels aside from 12>5.

I'm happy with my iPhone. I find it surprising that people expect a revolution on every bump.
In 5 years phones went from text, calls, and very bad email clients to:
Virtual personal assistant
Maps
iPod
A good mail app
A good browser
Huge App Store
Digital camera
Video conferencing
iBooks
iTunes
Podcast
AirPrint
AirPlay
YouTube
iTunes university
Hell you can run photoshop on phones now.

I honestly would like to see improvements in ios more than spec bumps. Specs are nothing without the software to utilize them.
I want to see:
Better multitasking
Much longer battery life
Widgets (so people will quit complaining)
Mail overhaul
Preview (this program could be really useful on the phone I think)
Infrared keyboard/ screen projection
Some of the pro apps using the iphone/iPad as a second screen:
I don't want to run GarageBand on my phone but what if I could edit tracks with my finger in logic while mixing on the big screen?
I think with icloud apple has a very powerful way to transfer documents in its native apps. If iWork and some of the other apps were overhauled with this in mind a few decent apps could make the iphone essential for a student/ work.

The platform is solid. The hardware is there. The software is close but still neglects some of the work / school aspects they could easily obtain.


Apple is not dying/ ceasing to innovate. That is silly. The fact is the whole objective of iPhone was to do more than the iPod by putting iLife in your pocket. They have done much more than that. I do think there marketing / keynotes lately have sucked. Samsung/ kindle make ads slamming apple products and apple has no retaliation. I miss when apple would demo other products and there's at the same time to show how much better they were.
 
I've never seen such a bunch of crybabies that just can't stand the fact that Apple isn't making a plastic oversize crap plastic Nexus phone..

If that's what you prefer, buy it! Don't be annoyed that Apple has a different vision. Obviously, none of you complainers comprehend that.

Oh, and go hang out at the Android fan sites, if there are any.
 
Apple needs to step up their game. Every new Phone this year has a better Camera- thats nothing special.

If you don't want to update the Design (Apple should at least consider updating the Aluminum chassis and make it harder to scratch ) fine- but at least bump the goddamn battery size...

Do something, that is a real reason to buy the 5s.

It just feels so lazy...Other Companies design a whole new product in One year (compare the HTC One X to the HTC One) AND they improve the specs.
 
When I think of my iPhone 5 or any current smart phone
I ask myself what more do I need or want.
For me the screen size and resolution is peaked for my needs.
Although a faster processor and more memory is always nice,
I have 64gb and with the cloud really don't even use all that I have.

as probably most of you, I consider myself more techy than the average person.
Most people that I work with will come to me with their gadget issues. So for the average person the technology as far as memory and speed is more than adequate and I doubt they care .

What can sell more phones is improved software! An improved Siri, maps, to do list,calendar , mail , web browser would be awesome.

Form factor changes could sell more phones. I love the thinness of the 5, love the LTE and improved screen and speed of the device but aesthetically IMO
the iPhone 4 was more sexy.

I think for many user style/looks is more important than hardware.

The one techy feature non tech people care about and use all the time is the camera and Video. The camera is decent but there is plenty of room for improvement especially white balance.

me personally would take a phone with a better battery life rather than a bigger screen than we already have. Just talking to people using either galaxy and iPhone one of the most commonest complaints is battery life. Apple you want blow Samsung out of the water? make a phone with a battery life 4x as long as current models. Than slam it down the competitors face with ads showing people using their iPhone along side Samsung users looking for a place to charge their phone. Have a Samsung user ask an iPhone user to borrow their phone because the battery on the Galaxy 3 is dead.

Now a little side note, : What really bums me about Apple is not that they are not innovating because they are, it seems to me they have lost their killer instinct. I always felt under SJ, Apple's goal was to make the greatest products in the world but also to destroy the competition. Tear them apart! Now I feel like Apple has become very complacent. Steve's presentations use to call out the weakness in other products and than let you know how Apple's solved the problem other devices haven't. Now every presentation is boring and monotonous with the same mantra " Apple's goal is to make the best products for their users" yawn. or " we have 10 zillion apps where are competitors only have 1 zillion" This is looking back not forward. What ever happened to their mantra skate to where the puck is going not to where it is now.

Samsung and google spend over 4x more money on advertising than Apple.
Believe me, in their minds they are at total war with Apple and realize how gullible the general public is to the "cool factor". They realize Apple in the past was considered the coolest, and the best way to bring Apple down is to tarnish their image as passé and they have been brilliant at doing this. All the while I feel like if you were to walk into Apple's advertising department you would see cob webs and people snoring behind their desk enjoying their 10 course meal being digested. The recent ads have been lame, pathetic and boring. IMO, technology wise there is very little difference between Apple and Samsung at this point, I mean Samsung and android have caught up to Apple, they really haven't done anything amazing above and beyond, yet look how through advertising they have convinced so many, that Apple is behind and no longer cool.

I am also very tired of people ridiculing us posters who say "if Steve was here"
Well yes Steve is unfortunately no longer with us, yet this is why as a stock holder I am very nervous. See, not only was Steve a visionary with great taste choosing products that we all love but he was also one of the most feared CEO from the business standpoint. He was a ruthless competitor, i feel its this relentless spirit to be the best and most successful at any cost, which may have left Apple. IMO in the face of such a still strong financial company its this loss of spirit that is palpable and is what is resulting in Apples stock weakness.
I would love to see Tim Cook acknowledge this is a war, there is a lot of money at stake and Apple plan's on dominating. It is just so important to expand your market in these early days of mobile computing i.e..
smart phone and tablets, reason being once your locked into the platform its hard to switch as you have already made a financial investment into apps and cloud not to mention the time learning the system.



Just Saying


Very well said!!
 
It is a well-known fact that with a given photo sensor size, and therefore limited light coming in, adding more pixels just reduces the pixel size to the level where each pixel just receives noise because there isn't enough light. There is for every sensor size an optimal number of pixels, and for most cheap cameras that optimum is at six megapixels. Most cheap cameras have _too many_ pixels for their sensor size.

I actually think phone vendors are starting to get this now. The HTC One that was just announced has cut it's cameras megapixels from 8 to 4, to allow 300% better lighting to each sensor, while the camera still produces images with "enough" resolution (fills a standard monitor even at 50% scaling). And from what I've seen so far, it kicks the butt of most 8MP+ phone cameras.

Apple has made sure the camera is quite good in the last few models, so I'm betting we'll see some nice improvements there, megapixels aside.
 
Don't try to reason with an unreasonable person. It's a waste of time.


I don't really see the point in comparing something you like (iOS) to stuff that you see as inferior (Android). It's not about Apple "catching up" with their competitors or imitating what they do; it's about Apple delivering the best product at the right time.


There's a lot more things that a mobile OS could be doing other than meaningless widgets and themes.
iOS's UI was created 6 years ago for a screen that's 20% the resolution of today's screen and a device that had significantly less processing power (ARM 11@412 MHz, 128MB RAM) than Apple's latest (ARMv7 dual-core CPU@1.3 GHz, triple core GPU, 1GB RAM).
Is it so unreasonable to wish for a better app switcher or a better notification system?

What about a UI that really makes use of the Retina resolution and the graphic power of the latest iPhone? Is there really no better way to turn off Wi-Fi or Bluetooth than to hunt for it in menus? Can't Apple design a real multitasking system that doesn't drain your battery and doesn't fill your RAM?
 

So far NFC is not relevant. What use would it be at the moment?
Passbook is already a lame duck, completely useless in most countries.
No need to bloat the phone with more features that are only used by a tiny minority.
 
You don't need to remind us how many people in the world make poor decisions with their money based on cool factor or upgraditis. Some of us are aware and feel sorry for you just taking it willingly.

The writing on the wall? The 1 1/2 yr old 4S outsold the 9 month old Galaxy S3 last quarter. The 4 and 5 are iconic designs. There's a huge benefit to keeping the same great design for 2 years.

For one, you get a far more robust accessories ecosystem. It also helps iDevices maintain its legendary resale value. And it also gives Apple time to design the next gen phone with more meaningful changes rather than make changes for changes' sake just to make ADHD geeks happy.
 
I'm happy with my iPhone. I find it surprising that people expect a revolution on every bump.
In 5 years phones went from text, calls, and very bad email clients to:
Virtual personal assistant
Maps
iPod
A good mail app
A good browser
Huge App Store
Digital camera
Video conferencing
iBooks
iTunes
Podcast
AirPrint
AirPlay
YouTube
iTunes university
Hell you can run photoshop on phones now.

Those things are old. My iPhone 3GS running an old version of iOS does all that. You say people want a revolution each upgrade, but I ask - what revolution has happened since the 3GS? The only thing a sane person could call a "revolution" would be the retina display. Everything else has been minor stats bumps (slightly faster, slightly thinner phones with slightly better cameras) between pointless, nearly useless features (say "Hi!" to Siri for me, will you?).

After all those years, it's about time Apple makes a revolution with their phones.
 
Please, Apple, make those colorful iPhones from a transparent plastic, just like original iMacs!
 
Those things are old. My iPhone 3GS running an old version of iOS does all that. You say people want a revolution each upgrade, but I ask - what revolution has happened since the 3GS? The only thing a sane person could call a "revolution" would be the retina display. Everything else has been minor stats bumps (slightly faster, slightly thinner phones with slightly better cameras) between pointless, nearly useless features (say "Hi!" to Siri for me, will you?).

After all those years, it's about time Apple makes a revolution with their phones.

I understand where you are coming from. What I was getting at was the whole iLife computer in our pocket revolution makes everything else pale in comparison. I find a lot of the features useless for myself but I bet there are probably a lot of people who find them useful and the stuff I use useless. I would love to see them reinvent the phone again but I think many holding that thought will be disappointed. Innovation isn't always useful. The features may work on a 3GS but they are still new and far more innovative than the competitors. Why is backwards compatibility a bad thing. I feel like people would complain just as much if they released non compatible ios features. As for your condescending comment about Siri, I rarely use it but its certainly nice to have.
 
What do people want out of their phones these days??? Make your coffee for you and walk your dog? I don't really want a larger screen... it's supposed to fit in your pocket...

Enjoy being left behind in the dust then.

I've never seen such a bunch of crybabies that just can't stand the fact that Apple isn't making a plastic oversize crap plastic Nexus phone..

If that's what you prefer, buy it! Don't be annoyed that Apple has a different vision. Obviously, none of you complainers comprehend that.

Oh, and go hang out at the Android fan sites, if there are any.

I don't understand this "Android phones suxxor cuz it's made of plastic!!!1" argument. Metal doesn't always equate good build quality.

The thing is, have you used these so-called plastic phones long enough to hold a fair judgement instead of boldly stating it will fall apart?

But as usual, ignorance is bliss.
 
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more camera improvements, slightly faster processor, finger print reader?

mmm, must be me thats adrift from popular thinking :(

Lets hope I'll be able to turn the 1995 finger print reader off, and Id pay £500 more in the apple store for an iPhone to have an option of no camera.

I have to keep checking my phone in at the places I frequent in a days work.
So heres hoping the iWatch has a good range, and no camera.

Justified it already - ;)
 
Nfc?

I dont see much use for a fingerprint sensor without NFC. it would make sense to use that type of authentication when you want to authorize an NFC payment. I am really looking forward to when apple gets this feature and passbook can start holding more than just loyalty cards for payments.

For me i am very happy with my iPhone 5, and if this 5S doesn't have NFC i will resist the urge to upgrade.
 
I'll be pretty mad if Apple only release a lackluster S-class update for the iPhone this year. My 4S is showing its age and I'm desperate for an adequate replacement. Phones like the HTC One, the Xperia Z and soon the Galaxy S IV are leaving the iDevices in the dust in terms of specs (no news here) and design (that's new and worrisome). I want Apple to go thermonuclear here, no lousy speed bumps and iterative camera updates in the same boring body - up the PPI beyond 400, add a quad-core processor, increase the screen size to 4.8 inches, give us 2 gigs or RAM so that we can actually multitask and open more than a measly eight tabs in Safari, and then revamp iOS' notifications, multitasking, widgets etc.

If I weren't so invested in Apple's ecosystem (iMessage, iCloud, Photostream, Apps) I would order an HTC One in a heartbeat. And I'm not trolling, it actually pains me to say this - I remember how stoked I was when I got my first iPhone (the 3GS) and how far ahead of the competition Apple were at the time.
 
I'll be pretty mad if Apple only release a lackluster S-class update for the iPhone this year. My 4S is showing its age and I'm desperate for an adequate replacement. Phones like the HTC One, the Xperia Z and soon the Galaxy S IV are leaving the iDevices in the dust in terms of specs (no news here) and design (that's new and worrisome). I want Apple to go thermonuclear here, no lousy speed bumps and iterative camera updates in the same boring body - up the PPI beyond 400, add a quad-core processor, increase the screen size to 4.8 inches, give us 2 gigs or RAM so that we can actually multitask and open more than a measly eight tabs in Safari, and then revamp iOS' notifications, multitasking, widgets etc.

If I weren't so invested in Apple's ecosystem (iMessage, iCloud, Photostream, Apps) I would order an HTC One in a heartbeat. And I'm not trolling, it actually pains me to say this - I remember how stoked I was when I got my first iPhone (the 3GS) and how far ahead of the competition Apple were at the time.

I can't deny the iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 were on-part or not better than their competition. But Android has come a long way.
 
fingerprint sensor?

"Why didn't you call an ambulance? You have 3rd degree burns all over your chest and hands"

"My iPhone was locked and the only way to unlock it was with my burned off fingerprint"

"oh...."
 
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