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New iTMS Localizations Tuesday?

manu chao said:
Interestingly, the Finnish and Portuguese store is in English, although the main Apple web page is in Finnish/Portuguese.
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In Finland it's most likely because there's not too much Apple representatives working here. Also, we seem to feel too comfy with English that there won't be enough pissed off people whining about this thing. Still, I don't think having a store that's not in Finnish is gonna speed up sales 😛 Hope this is gonna change.
 
Funny thing about the Latin-American Apple sites (Mexico and Brazil included) is they don't even have the iPod Tab, it's still the "switch" tab...

So I'm not holding my breath for a Mexican or regional local store, it could take years 🙁 (and there are lots of music, so that's another issue to account for)

Anyway, i want a U2 black iPod with the whole collection! Vertigo Babe!
 
iAlan said:
Hey, Japan has two Apple Stores - I have been to the Ginza store several times and I will be in Osaka on Thursday and Friday on business, so will try to cheek the store there if time permits.

Anyway, an iTunes Music Store will round out nicely...!
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It would do great business, that's for sure. I teach college classes here in Tokyo, and a lot of my students have iPods. I demo'ed the iTMS for them (my credit card has a US billing address), and they loved it. I mentioned to one of my students that the Japan iTMS might be opening soon, and she was very excited at the prospect.

I just hope that the prices are reasonable; Japanese music stores still sell CDs at prices US$25 and over sometimes. I have the strong feeling that songs won't be selling for 100 yen apiece....

BTW, the Japan site has no mention at all of a music store yet.
 
Windowlicker said:
In Finland it's most likely because there's not too much Apple representatives working here. Also, we seem to feel too comfy with English that there won't be enough pissed off people whining about this thing. Still, I don't think having a store that's not in Finnish is gonna speed up sales 😛 Hope this is gonna change.
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same thing in Norway. Norwegian currency, english store. I bet they sell less because of it, even though most norwegians are comfortable reading the english language.
 
Tokyo said:
...I just hope that the prices are reasonable; Japanese music stores still sell CDs at prices US$25 and over sometimes...BTW, the Japan site has no mention at all of a music store yet.
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Pricing will be all important here. Tower has import CD's for around $18, mostly Top 40 and the more popular alternative artists (!). 150 yen will be about as high as they could go per track I think.

Did you access the Japan Apple page with no problem? I still can't - running OSX 10.3.5 and Safari 1.2.3.
 
tYNS said:
I fully agree. If ITMS charges more than 99 cents here in Canada, it will flop.
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Indeed. Not only are CDs less expensive here but the other download services are selling at 0.99$CAN per track.

tYNS said:
I would say the average price of a store bought new release CD here in Canada is 12-13 dollars. That is with true CD quality. It is not re-compressed AAC music.
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What do you mean by "re-compressed AAC"? I'd guess that ITMS tracks are only compressed once.

tYNS said:
Regardless of the Clairty of the AAC compression, it is still substandard to actual cd quality and cannot justify higher price tag.
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Well, even at the same exact price, ITMS does have two advantages over CDs:
- no need to buy all the tracks if you only like a few on the CD (less expensive overall)
- no need to actually go buy the CD (faster "reward/enjoyment" time)

If people are paying 0.99$CAN for DRM'ed WMA tracks, they certainly can pay 0.99$CAN for DRM's AAC tracks too. 😀
 
Poff said:
same thing in Norway. Norwegian currency, english store. I bet they sell less because of it, even though most norwegians are comfortable reading the english language.
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I am glad the EU will have it in English. It really IS the dominate international language and more European countries and Universities are teaching studies in english only Switzerland/Germany prime example. Time to have 1 universal language.

Everybody can easily learn and speak english whereas norwegian/swedish/finnish is like learning NASA instructions on how to build a shuttle.
 
ItuningMan said:
I am glad the EU will have it in English. It really IS the dominate international language and more European countries and Universities are teaching studies in english only Switzerland/Germany prime example. Time to have 1 universal language.

Everybody can easily learn and speak english whereas norwegian/swedish/finnish is like learning NASA instructions on how to build a shuttle.
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It's really not that hard. Any kid kan learn it....
 
yinyang said:
sorry another question for the aussies...

did the apple aus page always have the 'iPod+iTunes' tab cos i always thought it was just iPod...!?
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Please, stop seeing stuff where there's none (everyone is in a state of panic right now). 😱

iTunes is NOT only a music store. It's a stand-alone CD-ripper, MP3/AAC player which happens to have a music store access built-in. But that music store is not the only way to get music (remember those old things called "Audio Compact Disc"?)
😀
 
hansen said:
It's really not that hard. Any kid kan learn it....
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! 😀

I don't think English will ever be a Universal language.. Culture opposes it, and culture is strong in big parts of Europe. (Although not Norway, unfortunately.)


Still think norwegian AppleStore pages being english results in fewer sales, though..
 
Tokyo said:
It would do great business, that's for sure. I teach college classes here in Tokyo, and a lot of my students have iPods. I demo'ed the iTMS for them (my credit card has a US billing address), and they loved it. I mentioned to one of my students that the Japan iTMS might be opening soon, and she was very excited at the prospect.

I just hope that the prices are reasonable; Japanese music stores still sell CDs at prices US$25 and over sometimes. I have the strong feeling that songs won't be selling for 100 yen apiece....

BTW, the Japan site has no mention at all of a music store yet.
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and what is this at the bottom
here?
 
hansen said:
It's really not that hard. Any kid kan learn it....
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Yeah.. even a few thousand million kids managed to learn a language as obscure and uncomprehensible as chinese 😉

English as a universal language, no thanks. I'd much rather prefer any language that has understanding for eight-bit character sets. English has been butting other languages for too long 🙄
 
ItuningMan said:
I am glad the EU will have it in English. It really IS the dominate international language and more European countries and Universities are teaching studies in english only Switzerland/Germany prime example. Time to have 1 universal language.
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No thanks, I happen to like diversity, and would like to see it preserved thank you. But if you're set on learning a universal language, here you go. 🙂
 
toti said:
Yeah.. even a few thousand million kids managed to learn a language as obscure and uncomprehensible as chinese 😉

English as a universal language, no thanks. I'd much rather prefer any language that has understanding for eight-bit character sets. English has been butting other languages for too long 🙄
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I give my vote for C++ as the official international language! 😀
 
toti said:
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English as a universal language, no thanks. I'd much rather prefer any language that has understanding for eight-bit character sets.
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Actually, the language has nothing to do with the character sets used for the language. There are 8-bit character sets that can be selected for use with english on most modern operating systems.

As for which language should be universal? By default it might wind up being english. Is this a good thing? I don't know. As a person whose native language is english, I admit the language is not very logical. Although esperanto never really took off and that was a lnaguage that was designed to be easy to learn and to be universal.
 
Bear said:
Actually, the language has nothing to do with the character sets used for the language. There are 8-bit character sets that can be selected for use with english on most modern operating systems.

As for which language should be universal? By default it might wind up being english. Is this a good thing? I don't know. As a person whose native language is english, I admit the language is not very logical. Although esperanto never really took off and that was a lnaguage that was designed to be easy to learn and to be universal.
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Being able to select eight-bit characters and having understanding of how to handle them isn't the same thing at all. See how well Apple fares at it. (example languages: Icelandic, Greek, Russian) iMovie is broken, some localized fonts in iDVD are still broken, iTunes is only recently handling things correctly, unless your'e uploading stuff to your iPod, which is broken, Xcode is broken... I could go on...

Yeeeeees, I have reported it in feedback.... Yeeeeeees I have reported it in the bugtracker.... Nooooo it has not been solved. ( except for the Xcode issue but that creeps up again and again.. )
 
haunebu said:
No thanks, I happen to like diversity, and would like to see it preserved thank you. But if you're set on learning a universal language, here you go. 🙂
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Wehey! Esperanto! I'd totally forgotten about that. Maybe I'll try to learn it one day, but I really don't think I'll ever meet a person speaking it.
 
I would say the average price of a store bought new release CD here in Canada is 12-13 dollars. That is with true CD quality. It is not re-compressed AAC music.
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Man, I'd sure like to know where you're shopping, and what you're buying -- in Toronto, most new CDS run at least $17 Canadian unless you find a sale.
 
Personally I think lanuguage just evolves and it is natural to assume (like is already happening) that languages will converge as communication and travel between the world increases. The advent of the technological age has seen English proliferate even more and that may become the dominant language.

I don't really see the point in making up an international language because language evolves naturally. I also fail to see how Esperanto is not biased in any way - for one it uses one particular alphabet already in use and looks very similar to something like Spanish or Italian to me. Even the name sounds Spanish. And the language certainly seems to be closer to European languages than, say Japanese or Chinese and therefore easier for a European to learn than someone from the far east.

I'm sure there'll be a language preference in iTMS. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out. I think there will just be a mass of separate stores to add to the four that are already open. I don't see how Apple could amalgomate all of them into one store, even though that's the simplest thing to do. Different markets and different laws and too much red tape stops this from happening normally.
 
manu chao said:
and what is this at the bottom
here?
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As I said earlier in this thread, the sentence under the iTunes icon
only tells about iTunes, not iTMS. Here is the almost verbatim translation:
With iTunes 4 you can organize easily in Mac or PC, and the music is automatically transported to the iPod. One album only takes ten seconds.
Because of Autosync, the changes made in iTunes is automatically updated to the iPod, so that the data in the iPod is always up-to-date.
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I surely hope the iTMS Japan today, but I doubt it.
 
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