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Chip NoVaMac said:
That is my concern about the ads I saw tonight. Every hacker is going out tomorrow to buy a Mac mini and try to make our live hell. :eek:
I added the bold. With so many hackers around, maybe Apple is counting on them for a big boost in sales!
 
7on said:
No mentioning of Apple anywhere. Only "Mac" written on the iMac screen at the end.

If I remember correctly, Apple hasn't actually used the word "Apple" on-screen in any ads since the Think Different campaign ended. It's just been the Apple logo since then.

Heck, they haven't even had the name "Apple" on their webpage for years, aside from the URL, title bar, and copyright info. Their computers don't even say "Apple" anywhere conspicuous on them.

It's kinda like Prince. The company's name is a logo. No big conspiracy here.
 
Ads are Ok

I think the ads are ok. For Apple, who is a such a great marketing company, I think the ads fall short.

They just don't grap attention.

Concerning the security, that is another debate. But there is an excellent article that looked at the time it takes to patch Macs security holes, as well as how open (or in this case closed) Apple is to discuss such issues.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/05/a_time_to_patch_iii_apple_2.html
 
lame...

Saw all the ads..
not impressed, in fact it's worse that most home videos.
they are just asking for people to create viruses for the macs now. sad ad, sad ad...
 
Multimedia said:
I agree. Incredibly BORING. What a waste of money. They will do NOTHING to increase sales. :mad:

You really think it will do nothing for sales???? Did you see the stock of apple when they released bootcamp? It will do a lot for sales, especially for the parents of college bound students, the parents who have no idea that there is a computer that does not get a virus. Now if you are a parent and you want your child to have the best computer at a decent price and will last until graduation, and you just saw an ad about computers with few viruses, you might just look into buying a new Mac. Maybe you should take a marketing class.
 
These ads are hilarious. Sure they have very little substance, but nobody wants to hear about technical details of a computer. I can't believe random Mac fanboys think they can critique the marketing team that brought the iPod to 75% market share even though is costs $50 more than all its competitors. If Apple can do anything, it's branding and advertising.
 
I Hope You're Right

Ryan5505 said:
You really think it will do nothing for sales???? Did you see the stock of apple when they released bootcamp? It will do a lot for sales, especially for the parents of college bound students, the parents who have no idea that there is a computer that does not get a virus. Now if you are a parent and you want your child to have the best computer at a decent price and will last until graduation, and you just saw an ad about computers with few viruses, you might just look into buying a new Mac. Maybe you should take a marketing class.
I really hope you're right. I find them very dull and boring. Sorry. :(
 
balloot said:
These ads are hilarious. Sure they have very little substance, but nobody wants to hear about technical details of a computer. I can't believe random Mac fanboys think they can critique the marketing team that brought the iPod to 75% market share even though is costs $50 more than all its competitors. If Apple can do anything, it's branding and advertising.

Ditto.

They don't spew off technical details, but they don't have to. These ads will get people into an Apple Store, they'll get the technical details once they're there...if they even want them (some people don't know **** about hardware and just want a computer that works)
 
yg17 said:
114,000 seems like an underestimation :eek:

Didja notice that the audio for "114,000" was overdubbed? Anyone read lips? What did he really say on the video? Apparently the number of PC viruses has increased so rapidly that they had to edit the commercial prior to release!
 
Tiger in the ads

I must agree that having new Mac commercials is a great start. Personally, I would prefer commercials showing off Tiger. Why not have a 30 second spot showing someone opening iPhoto, creating a slideshow and previewing it? It could be done in 30 seconds and would show everyone how quick and easy it would be to do. You could have another commercial opening dashboard adding a new very useful app. It would show the ripple effect, which is just cool, and something useful at the same time (like a stock quote widget or something). You could add a third commercial showing off spotlight. The Macs and Tiger is fast enough to get a lot of info out there in a short ad. IMHO
 
aria505 said:
Why does Steve Jobs always have to put down the PC in-order to sell his own computers?

Seriously, talk about all the features of Mac OS X (iLife, Spotlight, Dashboard, networking, security, *Parental Controls*) and stop acting like the bully in school that has to put down all the other kids to make himself feel stronger.

I think just talking about the Parental Controls in Mac OS X would sell a ton of Macs. There is a huge market because Parents are just now realizing that the internet isn't a safe place to let their kids run around on unsupervised.

These commercials really are a let down because they just use the same old arrogant mythic defense of "Everything just works on a Mac" that gives all Mac users a bad name.
I have to agree, for the most part. I'm glad to see them advertising again, but for those that have never really been exposed to a Mac it still leaves them wondering "What's a Mac?". And for those that do know (most of them thinking OS 9), I don't see anything compelling to get anyone to switch.

I'd rather see a series of ads showing off directly what it can do out of the box. Or better yet, a well produced half hour infomercial. Demo what it can do "out of the box". Show someone doing a demo for Joe Q. Public who had "no idea a Mac could do all this". Show off iPhoto a bit with photocasting. Plug in a video camera and whip up a quick iMovie. Mix the movies and photos together and make a DVD in iDVD.

Think about what Steve said when GarageBand was first introduced. There are a bunch of musicians in the home. Hook up a USB music keyboard and have Joe Q.'s kid play around with GB for a few minutes. Show off MS Office opening documents created on a PC. If they do their own Virtualization, as well as Boot Camp, then show off both methods of "still being able to run that one app in Windows, if you insist".

Basically redo a lot of what was done at the MWSF and WWDC keynotes. Hardly anyone would consider a Mac, but just don't know it, has ever seen the bundled apps in action... Show Mom off the street saying how they "could never do any of this out of the box with their Dell they just bought". (Although not free out of the box, but with the 30 day demo...) put together a club newsletter with Pages. Whip up a presentation with Keynote.

And, of course, show off Front Row, iChat, iWeb, Exposé, etc... Do some comparisons to how it's all better than Windoze, but don't make them sound like an idiot because they're using Windoze... Just explain how "you understand they may not know this, but with the Mac you can......". All without having to track down / buy extra software. And, of course, plug the Parental controls, as mentioned, without having to wait another year (or more, maybe) for Vista... "You can do it now."

Make sure you plug in a few choice subliminal lines for the people who fell asleep with the TV on, and you're all set. :cool:

And then, at the end, show how the whole half hour was done with a digital movie camera and iMovie on a Mac (other than the camera, it's all there... out of the box).
 
DeathChill said:
That's not really the same deal as that's quite a different environment then a home desktop system. I also NEVER said that the ONLY reason viruses weren't written for OS X was because of the low market share, I just said that it's definitely helped keep people from bothering.

Also, saying "We have 5% of the market share so we should have 5% of the viruses," doesn't make sense. Attacking Windows is much more profitable/enjoyable for viruses writers as it's a huge base that can potentially be infected.

As well, just so people aren't so smug about this: I have a friend who wrote a program in REALBasic that silently uploaded files off of the user's computer who ran it. The user running it is completely unaware and is NOT asked for their password. It shows that such things are easily possible as this could be used to steal information, which is somewhat virus/malware like.

you are right, that is a different environment, it should be more secure! but it is less.

saying that ppl don't bother to right viruses for macs because they have a low share also totally ignores the "fame" factor. they wish they could write one, cause they would be famous.

also, i never said you said anything about 5% of the viruses. but lets run with that. again the thinking is wrong. a very small portion of machines run linux, BSD and the like, but a good virus for them could take down large parts of the net. good hacks for those machines allow you to get access to things like bank systems. yet the hacks are for windows. why, because there are so many? please....

and honestly, a program in realbasic! oh know! :rolleyes:
 
Verto said:
That was a let down.

Really? I thought it was the best Mac ad in a long time. Definitely better than the Intel chip ad or the G5 guy getting blown out of his house. This one is funny and gets out some good points about Macs. (viruses, office compatibility, networking, etc)
 
i thought they were cool. Some were better then others....I can tell you it made me appreciate my mac..
but while i was watching the ads, my screen went to some pattern and froze and had to restart...
 
I think an info-mercial is a great idea, but obviously would be quite expensive (and would the 90% of Americans using PCs stay on whatever channel to watch it?) I like another idea I read, about having 30-second commercials, showing off Dashboard, creating a movie, and showing off iPhoto. also, the "myth" about everything just working on a Mac... I haven't had a product yet that's required drivers/additional software before working on the Mac. So, is it REALLY a myth?
 
I just watched them and I must say, they're great.

FINALLY they're talking about REAL differences between the platforms.

Not only that, but they don't have Ellen Feiss being all high scaring people away.

The best part is that at the end, you see the picture of the mac and just say "aww"; It makes you feel so good.
 
Multimedia said:
I really hope you're right. I find them very dull and boring. Sorry. :(

OF course we find them dull and boring, we use macs everyday. For someone that has no idea what a mac/apple computer is, it does a lot. Before I looked into purchasing a mac I had no idea there was a computer that did not get viruses. I also thought macs were not compatable. These ads get rid of the rumors or myths. My old roomate and his girlfriend hate macs, why b/c they have no idea what they are capable and say, "well if they are so good then why do they only own 5% of the market"? My response, "do you like maseratii or porshe"? idiots reponse,"yes". "how much marketshare do they own"? Room gets quite....


The ads will push sales, as well as bootcamp. A macbook would also push sales since most parents want a low price laptop for their children and will buy a dell b/cs its cheap.
 
A point for those of you who want the ads to show OS X in action.

Computer user interfaces don't display well on regular TVs. The resolution is very low and the picture is very blurry even at that resolution. This would be the same for TV ads trying to show off the Mac OS X user interface.
 
rspeaker said:
I think an info-mercial is a great idea, but obviously would be quite expensive (and would the 90% of Americans using PCs stay on whatever channel to watch it?) I like another idea I read, about having 30-second commercials, showing off Dashboard, creating a movie, and showing off iPhoto.
30-second quick demos would be great, too. But, as for infomercials... Nobody that makes one really expects a viewer to sit on that same channel for 30 minutes with remote in hand and not change channel. Look at when they mostly run... Over night. Partially because of the much cheaper advertising/network time, but also because they're going after the people who fell asleep on the couch with the TV on, woke up in the middle of the night, don't have a remote right at hand, and are too sleepy to get up to find it. So, they just sit there and try to get back to sleep... All the while obsorbing what's on the infomercial. If you notice, most of them run the equivalent of the same product's 30 second commercial every 4 minutes or so, pushing the phone number or hilite features. In Apple's case, they can suggest going to the Apple store and playing around with all this stuff themselves.

I'm not suggesting they do "only" an infomercial... Just do one also.
gekko513 said:
Computer user interfaces don't display well on regular TVs. The resolution is very low and the picture is very blurry even at that resolution. This would be the same for TV ads trying to show off the Mac OS X user interface.
I dunno. Those goofy "Computer Professor" (or whatever they're called) ads do a pretty good job of showing Windoze in action on TV.
 
Since everyone is giving a review, I'll jump on.

When Steve Jobs was brought back onto the board in 97 and he spoke at Macworld, he said that we need to give up the idea that in order for Apple to win Microsoft has to lose. He implored people to get over themselves when they booed at Microsoft bailing Apple out.

Now, these ads don't go after Microsoft but rather "PCs." But the same element of duplicity is here. I don't like it.

Apple should focus on positive messages, parlaying the popularity and hipness of iPod to Mac.

Plus, the ads have too many words. The iPod ads worked because there are no words. Cool people don't need to say it: show it. Show the energy.
 
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