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janstett said:Sigh, the German cars aren't so great and suffer quality problems compared to the Japanese (and likewise the Apples aren't indestructable).
My Mac Mini got FRIED within its first year, hard drive, DVD-ROM drive, drive controller, and mainboard -- completely shot.
Likewise, I own a Pontiac and a Porsche. Guess which one gives me almost 400 horsepower, has gone 75,000 miles, has had only one major problem in 6 years (grounding to chassy shook loose and cut out the engine), and gives me 24 mpg; and guess which one has problems every two minutes that cost me $1500 minimum to get looked at each time, needs constant (and expensive) repairs, and has stranded me twice, and gets 21 mpg. But hey, I got a cool badge on the hood and people get jealous when they find out I have one
I know someone with a new BMW 5 series and electronically controlled suspension. The suspension electronics failed and the car went to full droop, could have killed him, and was undrivable.
If you want to continue with the car analogies, European cars (Apples) are unneccessarily complex and gadget-laden, and when they fail, they fail spectacularly and in a completely disasterous way. And then you have to go to your specialist and pay a fortune for repairs.
I agree with the expense to own an apple or foreign car; both expensive. I have owned two beemers, 325i and currently M3. When things are wrong, they are expensive to repair. But when all is good, I would never even think about owning something else. Depreciation is also slower on foreign and macs.
deadturtle said:
Why will it be easier now? Viruses are tailored to the OS, not the architecture.
I like the ads, although the iLife one is pretty weak - I mean your average user won't get that - at least I don't think they will.
I can see them having a short life cycle as they get annoying quick. I switched to the Apple News Page as my home page, as I am tired of the ads already.
I can see them having a short life cycle as they get annoying quick. I switched to the Apple News Page as my home page, as I am tired of the ads already.
They are attacking the business world, but using a slow-and-steady approach and not getting ahead of themselves. TV ads aren't going to make IT people toss away their Microsoft ties. Steady erosion by products like Xserves and Xsan, and slowly building a new reputation is the way to go.Ryan5505 said:
I agree. Do these ads increase the incentive? Maybe--but it was ALREADY a lot of incentive. Bragging rights for the first successfully-spread, malicious, Internet (not Bluetooth or Bonjour) Mac virus on the latest version of OS X would be huge. That was true a year ago and a week ago.Billy Boo Bob said:
Then I sure hope you don't waste time following pro sports--or discussing them--because sports affect people's life at home and work--their productivity and creativity--a LOT less directly than computers doTHX1139 said:
No, it's not that the Mac CAN'T get a virus... it's that it's very, VERY hard to make one, MUCH harder than for Windows.janstett said:
Coupled with the Mac smaller installed base, which both shrinks the target AND interferes with network spreading. Superior OS design AND "obscurity" are both great factors that are not about to change We'll still get a virus someday (a real-world, successfully-spreading one, not a failed attempt). Then a patch will block it. A few months later, a second one will come along. And be blocked. We'll never face the torrent of malware Windows has, because we'll never have the buggy code or majority market share Windows has. Good!
Even though we won't always be totally virus-free like today, we'll always be MUCH better off than Windows users.A long-outdated stereotype that still gets repeated. Shop for a Dell of similar specs and capability, and you won't find it much cheaper than a Mac--in fact, if you look at ALL the specs and don't conveniently ignore some, the equivalent Dell often costs more. (You will find it less reliable, without the iLife software bundle, and without Apple's industry-topping tech support.)Ryan5505 said:
Apple does not offer a really bottom-end, cheaply made Mac--sub-$500. And you can't build a cheap-o Mac on your own (without illegally pirating OS X). Apple's not in the rock-bottom market at all, and above that, they are NOT more expensive. Then throw in cost of ownership (support, reliability, fighting viruses and spyware, downtime) and your total cost is actually less. Add in the fact that Macs stay useful longer than PCs, and you end up buying FEWER computers. In the end it's generally no contest: Macs are CHEAPER to own than PCs. And now they can run Windows when needed...
AAPL has one of the highest ranked consensus scores of the Personal Computers Industry.
AAPL's consensus score is higher than 86.8% of the Technology Sector.
AAPL Coverage: 28 IRPs | Sector Average: 10 IRPs
AAPL's consensus score is higher than 79.8% of the Jaywalk Universe*.
Dell falls behind Apple in the consensus score.
This proves Apple is superior to Dell.
*The Jaywalk Consensus is an average of all the independent research provider ratings on the given security.
AAPL's consensus score is higher than 86.8% of the Technology Sector.
AAPL Coverage: 28 IRPs | Sector Average: 10 IRPs
AAPL's consensus score is higher than 79.8% of the Jaywalk Universe*.
Dell falls behind Apple in the consensus score.
This proves Apple is superior to Dell.
*The Jaywalk Consensus is an average of all the independent research provider ratings on the given security.
iGary said:
I second that...it's funny to watch, if you get it (the calculator/clock joke), but to be honest, how many Windows users actually know what 'iWeb' is? iMovie and iPhoto are somewhat self-explanatory (kinda), but iWeb??? Photobooks? Shrug...who knows
These are the weakest ads I've ever seen! The more I watch them the stupider they seem - and I'm a 100% Mac fan! Who made these ads anyway, and who duped old Steveooo into allowing them?
I hope the ads work, but they don't work for me.
I hope the ads work, but they don't work for me.
these ads are great! they are finally getting out there and smashing some rumors about OS X and apple computers that my friends and their parents say and they have no clue what they are talking about
"there are no programs available for the mac" networking resolves that one
and a few of the other commercials, they are done well and will get more people to switch
its nothing flashy its simple and gets the point across...just like apple does with the ipod and just like apple does with everything else
"there are no programs available for the mac" networking resolves that one
and a few of the other commercials, they are done well and will get more people to switch
its nothing flashy its simple and gets the point across...just like apple does with the ipod and just like apple does with everything else
There will some day be the first successful Mac OS X virus. But if "plague" means multiple different viruses that exploit multiple different flaws, which Apple fails to patch, as an ongoing prolonged situation--I don't see that happening.Seasought said:
Successful Mac viruses will go from being nonexistent to very rare, but they won't become common like they are on Windows. The factors in our favor (OS design and target size) aren't ones that can change in the foreseeable future.
sushi said:
I love the networking one. I expect that one to resonate well with my parents. It certainly did with me.
For Christmas 2004, I got them a Kodak digital camera. Getting this thing to work with their PC was an absolute nightmare. I don't think we were actually able to transfer pics over until April '05. And even then it was a hit-or-miss, cross-your-fingers process whenever they wanted to transfer pictures off their memory card. They actually waited for me to come home and visit so I could troubleshoot problems as needed.
By the time Christmas 2005 was approaching, they finally decided maybe it's time to get a new computer. Despite my strong recommednations to get a Mac, they were going to just get a $500 Dell. Fearing the nonstop maintenance this would create for me, I offered them my 11 month old iMac G5 for the money they were planning to spend on a Dell. They agreed, so I gave them my Rev. A and put the $500 towards a new Rev. C for myself.
When I set up the iMac at their house, I said "Remember how many problems we had with the camera on your old computer? Well this is how it's suppused to work!" And iPhoto open automatically when the camera was connected and did it's thing. And they sat there amazed and asked how I did that if I hadn't even set anything up for it...
AtHomeBoy_2000 said:
It looked like a couple of pagers and something else to me.
Not sure of their intentions, but it made me think how tethered to the past Windows & their hardware is...
m-dogg said:
I used to own a Rio 500mp (I think that's the model) MP3 player and that's what the one closest to the iPod looks like. I may be wrong, but it looks VERY similar.
Perhaps it's a hidden message to indicate a future iPod with paging capabilities.
I think the ads are hilarious.
Theres just one thing I don't get, and that is the network ad. I hear all these stories about nightmares with digital cameras and PC's. I have never actually seen it happen. My older brother plugs in a camera, and it shows up as a device, and he can open it up, and take pictures off of it. What's the big deal?
What am I missing?
Theres just one thing I don't get, and that is the network ad. I hear all these stories about nightmares with digital cameras and PC's. I have never actually seen it happen. My older brother plugs in a camera, and it shows up as a device, and he can open it up, and take pictures off of it. What's the big deal?
What am I missing?
After briefly becoming more valuable than Dell on January 13, 2006, Apple is once again more valuable than Dell. As of last night's close, Apple Computer, Inc. is worth $60,166,590,800 in market value vs. Dell's $60,061,881,440 according to MacDailyNews.
I think 99.9% of the problems people have with Digital Cameras on Windows are caused by the stupid software they install that comes with the Camera, which is usually broken, crap or simply unsuitable for the job.macgeek2005 said:
The nice thing about Macs is that they come with a central app for photo handling, that works no matter what camera you have, and is very good.