Again: other brands seem to be doing all that without the huge difference in prices.
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Again: other brands seem to be doing all that without the huge difference in prices.
What gets me is, computers are like Moore's law transistor count over time, computers get cheaper over time. Apple on the other hand, is going in the opposite direction.I means we no longer need this huge power brick that came with previous mac minis:
The mac mini was introduced as "the most affordable mac ever" at £339 (which really was affordable)
Then it edged up to £499, and now £650
Why not? People will pay it.
Apple has a responsibility to its shareholders to maximise its profit. They could charge 20% extra in Europe and they would still sell very well.In Denmark its 6.199kr that is 1020$ for the cheapest model
Well 20% of that is VAT but that still leaves a 100+ dollar premium which is more than what the import tariff would be.
No. They're jacking up the prices in the US stores so other countries' stores won't look so bad.
Sorry, you're still off on your values, it's $115 not $90. The person you were quoting from did the same mistake on removing the VAT you did in your original post (you can't calculate VAT by taking 17.5% off the VAT inclusive price, doesn't work that way). That's a BIG difference and can't be justified with this commodity prices rubbish, especially considering it's a bigger gap that Apple normally apply to their devices (last one I worked out was iPad and that came in around... 8% I think for the base 16Gb model).
Can anyone else in the UK actually calculate VAT or is it just me?
The UK price is not 535 at all; To work out the before VAT price you have to divide by 1.175, so the UK pre-VAT price is £552.34 (i.e. 117.5% of the pre VAT price is the total price. The pre VAT price is NOT 82.5% of the post VAT price).
So the UK price, before tax, is $814.58, so $115 more than in the US. Ridiculous.
The UK price is not 535 at all; To work out the before VAT price you have to divide by 1.175, so the UK pre-VAT price is £552.34 (i.e. 117.5% of the pre VAT price is the total price. The pre VAT price is NOT 82.5% of the post VAT price).
So the UK price, before tax, is $814.58, so $115 more than in the US. Ridiculous.
If they price it way too high then it won't sell then you end up with no profits.
oh really? is the iPad not expensive at all?
My Mini wishes come true...?
I have been pining for this day (a new Mini!!) for the last 18 months and finally it is here! It is so damned sexy and sleek...but:
1. The price increase is insanely outrageous for the outdated innards. I could understand if it was Core i5 but this is nuts.
2. As many here predicted, it is still the same C2D as before (very disappointed on that point).
3. Is the HDD user upgradable with this unibody design (iFixit will be telling us soon no doubt)?
4. The SD slot should be on the front for easy user access.
5. 1 less USB port but it can be justified with the SD slot.
As awesome as this re-design looks I don't know if I can justify the purchase based on points #1 and #2. I am left to wonder if I should smile or frown.....scales are tipped towards frowning.
I have been pining for this day (a new Mini!!) for the last 18 months and finally it is here! It is so damned sexy and sleek...but:
1. The price increase is insanely outrageous for the outdated innards. I could understand if it was Core i5 but this is nuts.
2. As many here predicted, it is still the same C2D as before (very disappointed on that point).
3. Is the HDD user upgradable with this unibody design (iFixit will be telling us soon no doubt)?
4. The SD slot should be on the front for easy user access.
5. 1 less USB port but it can be justified with the SD slot.
As awesome as this re-design looks I don't know if I can justify the purchase based on points #1 and #2. I am left to wonder if I should smile or frown.....scales are tipped towards frowning.
wow thats more than I was expecting - one in the eye (blindsided) - looks so much better.
and BTO 8GB option - finally!
(gonna go sit n wait for the 'what no i3/i5 threads.....)
What a great looking computer
and we'll see i3/i5 minis by this time next year if not sooner.You just pulled that statement out of thin air.
If Apple could put a dedicated GPU into an Apple TV, THREE YEARS AGO, I bet you every money in the world that they can find one for the Mini.
No need for a high end chip here. Just the cheapest lowest-end GPU, and it would still be 3 times faster.
People are so enthralled by Apple's praise about those allegedly fast Nvidia chipsets that they aren't seeing the very obvious fact: integrated GPU really sucks donkey balls performance-wise.
It's hardly different to each state in the US having it's own sales tax laws and regulations.
It's hardly a different distance to ship the machines.
The size of the market is quite similar.
And we speak English in the UK, so that's not a problem.
As was pointed out elsewhere, the usual mark-up, pre-VAT, is 7%, to account for additional costs of doing business (consumer protection laws, etc) in the EU. This new (and very lovely, and desirable) Mac Mini is way above that.
I'll see what the education discount is, it could change the equation totally.
They could at least throw in a free iWork at this price. Or 4GB of RAM.
This will drive a lot of people to look upwards at the iMacs though, especially if (like me) they are also considering getting a new monitor. It's just a shame that the iMacs come in only 21.5" and 27" variants, no 24" variant.
It's insanely expensive considering what you are getting is very old technology in a beautiful box. 2gb ram is a joke.
I was thinking of getting a mini, but although this is a very nice update I'm going to wait and see what the next iMac update brings. The specs of the two are currently rather close. If they can bring out an i5 based 21.5" iMac with half decent graphics my original Alu will be hitting eBay.
It's the cost side that is the decision maker. The iMac also comes with the keyboard mouse, screen, webcam etc.
And yeah, I can calculate VAT, although this would be purchased on my business so I'd just claim the VAT back
It's the cost side that is the decision maker. The iMac also comes with the keyboard mouse, screen, webcam etc.
And yeah, I can calculate VAT, although this would be purchased on my business so I'd just claim the VAT back
Or, just possibly, there is economy of scale in effect that makes Apple's boutique-like nature allow for cheaper pricing in the States compared to other vendors while allowing them to still make industry leading profits on HW.
Are you now going to deny that Apple sells more product to the US than any other single country?
If it's so easy to get more profit from these other countries over the US then you have to wonder why does Apple focus on the US and not on these countries they are apparently "raping". :rollseyes:
I believe Apple breaks down unit sales and profits across continents/regions. Why don't you crunch those number and get back to us on how much more profit they are making abroad.
I'm trying to figure out if it's ~120 USD more in all EU countries. It probably is, but if there's a country where it's cheaper I might just buy it through there.
I bought my iPod Touch in Sweden and saved about 50 USD (not that much, but since I was already there it was worth it)
Apple once again releases hardware that is good, but does not justify the price.... Not a good sign.
I think just the opposite... I am expecting an A4 based version of this SAME enclosure to be the new Apple TV and at a much lower price...
Finally an Apple TV that can act as a DVD player as well as everything else...