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HD movie over internet is the future, not Bluray! Anyway Apple could put Bluray as optional.
If those goods are computers, yes. The import duty fee on computer equipment to the UK is 0.00% Believe that applies to computers, mobile phones and digital cameras, maybe other items as well. You still pay VAT but there's no import duty.
Core 2 Duo? Seriously? My '08 MacBook has C2D. And it is about to be replaced with a i7 MacBook Pro!
At least my Mum can buy her first Mac now...
At least my Mum can buy her first Mac now...
So a 4GB Mac Mini configured on the Apple Store UK:
2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
320GB Serial ATA Drive
costs £852 in the UK. £80 more will get you 1TB of hard drive space, and lose the DVD drive (server variant) - or it will get you 500GB HD with the DVD drive (yes, £80 to upgrade the HD from 320GB to 500GB!).
That's £725 when VAT is removed. Which is $1068. No keyboard. No mouse. No monitor. Core 2 Duo with integrated graphics. $400 of that is design. $200 is OS + iLife.
2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
320GB Serial ATA Drive
costs £852 in the UK. £80 more will get you 1TB of hard drive space, and lose the DVD drive (server variant) - or it will get you 500GB HD with the DVD drive (yes, £80 to upgrade the HD from 320GB to 500GB!).
That's £725 when VAT is removed. Which is $1068. No keyboard. No mouse. No monitor. Core 2 Duo with integrated graphics. $400 of that is design. $200 is OS + iLife.
is damn sexy... looks like the Apple TV 
Love it~ I would like to put it near my TV
However... the price is quite expensive!!! not wroth~
Love it~ I would like to put it near my TV
However... the price is quite expensive!!!
not wroth~
But seems gaming is ganing a lot of attention in Macs. Me and all my friends plays online at fps and rpg withour problems with Macs and 320M is quite good for a entry level gaming card. Do you think MacMini is a gaming machine?
Gfx option on Macs are quite good right now, the only problem are drivers. wake up Nvidia and Ati!!
Perfect, looks like I may be importing one of them soon then. No problem with keyboard layouts either.
Seriously, that's a nice looking machine but it's just too expensive for what it is, especially in the UK and Germany. You can get a Macbook or iMac for just a little more with all peripheral built-in. It's definitely too expensive for a media center. If it had a built-in TV tuner, TiVo capabilities, Blu-Ray drive (and player) and included the remote, then the price would be somewhat adequate. They didn't even up the CPU specs...
It still is the cheapest option for a dual display Mac and by dual display I mean the ability to use two of the same affordable displays with it. Hackintosh it is then.
Expensive?
Expensive? Yes.
But it probably has a reason, to sell the upcoming Apple-TV better, which Apple has much more control over when they give it iOS4...
Expensive? Yes.
But it probably has a reason, to sell the upcoming Apple-TV better, which Apple has much more control over when they give it iOS4...
Why so rude? Not everyone can justify the expensive price of $700 for the most affordable mac ever. Heck for $300 more, i can get a cheap looking plastic MacBook with the same specs. And some people have a hard time paying $700 for what you get on the INSIDE. Only 2 little GB or RAM? WTH? ONLY a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo? For $700, why not give us a high end C2D live a 2.8 or 3.06GHz?
And because the Mac Mini is a desktop computer, I really don't give a rats ass about its material. If its Aluminum, or plastic, its not moving anywhere, so it doesn't matter. Hell why not mount the logic board in a cardboard or styrofoam box? Its not going anywhere, so it doesn't matter.
Correct me if my calculations are wrong in this table, but it's a drastic step to move from ~7% to nearer 17%.
Correct me if my calculations are wrong in this table, but it's a drastic step to move from ~7% to nearer 17%.
Thanks, I think that will illustrate the issue to people here.
Of course, the iMac has yet to be updated (it's still 9400M at the low end), and when it is, I'm sure the price will also ramp up.
Looks like Apple expects the Euro currencies to drop quite a bit against the dollar in the next few months. Shame that they're bundling in Sterling too, but maybe they think we'll get a double dip recession with the cuts the new government is instilling.
Agreed. No point in buying any mac until Blu Ray drives come as standard on the machine. Otherwise you're just buying old technology. I stopped buying DVD's as soon as Blu Ray was released.
Look, everyone screaming about it being overpriced compared to a "Comparatively specced Dell" is just spouting BS. Dell right now ships 1 SFF PC and it is way more expensive than this mini. Always has been. It still has Intel integrated graphics, it still uses older DDR2 RAM and the base model has a Pentium Dual Core, not even a Core 2 Duo of all things.
The Mac Mini is overpriced only if you don't consider the form factor as being a feature.
That is the important point here. People comparing this to full sized desktops are plainly wrong.
BTW, before everyone starts pointing to the Zino HD, I don't consider some kind of AMD low power Atom equivalent to be "Comparatively specced" to a Mac Mini with a real Intel processor.
Excellent to finally see Americans complaining about the price of the Mini. (In Australia Apple's been charging like the proverbial wounded bull for years.) You're entirely correct though, Apple's priced the Mini out of the domestic market. There doesn't seem to be a server option this time around, and that's the only place I can see these things being bought.
I'm the first person to squeal about no-Blu-ray and how it's about time the BDA asks Apple to quit the organisation, but surely the Mini is the model that least needs a BD drive. If your Mini is next to your television, isn't your BD player next to your Mini?
At 50GB/movie, I'm unlikely to be ripping BDs, no matter how 'convenient'. iMacs and even MacBooks could benefit, if you want to watch a BD away from the living room. Much as I'd like to see all Macs with BD drives standard, even if they were only players, the Mini is the least of our worries.
Overpriced, under-spec.ed Core iWhat? This is like selling Pentiums when the C2Ds started taking off. Has Apple missed a CPU generational jump? As someone else postedJobs didn't want to get booed off the stage.
Apple's newest hobby. Not looking good
(wait 12 months, iPad will be the next hobby if it doesn't get a Retina display and a camera)
I'm the first person to squeal about no-Blu-ray and how it's about time the BDA asks Apple to quit the organisation, but surely the Mini is the model that least needs a BD drive. If your Mini is next to your television, isn't your BD player next to your Mini?
At 50GB/movie, I'm unlikely to be ripping BDs, no matter how 'convenient'. iMacs and even MacBooks could benefit, if you want to watch a BD away from the living room. Much as I'd like to see all Macs with BD drives standard, even if they were only players, the Mini is the least of our worries.
Overpriced, under-spec.ed Core iWhat? This is like selling Pentiums when the C2Ds started taking off. Has Apple missed a CPU generational jump? As someone else postedJobs didn't want to get booed off the stage.
Apple's newest hobby. Not looking good
(wait 12 months, iPad will be the next hobby if it doesn't get a Retina display and a camera)
I don't care about its formfactor. Make it as big as a stardard mac pro tower. Its not going to be moved. Oh, and I can find you a better speced Dell for the same price or similar.
Same worries here. I had a Time Capsule that died on me and was replaced.
The fan and ventilation on the redesigned Mini does look better though -- so hope they're adequate to minimise overheating problems.
perhaps then we should compare mac mini's with mac minis, which used to be near half the price of this new model
Care to point out where those half the price Minis with the current specs are located on Apple's site ?
Again, Dell doesn't make a better specced computer for the same price, they make a more expensive computer for the same price. I don't care that you don't care about the form factor.
Apple doesn't make a computer you want, don't buy an Apple. But don't go comparing Apple and Oranges and make stupid claims like "the Mac mini is overpriced". It's not. It's just you don't value the small form factor and thus any small form factor PC is overpriced to you for your needs.
Quietly Upgrades?
Why is something like this "quietly upgraded" to MR? Is it because it wasn't announced at a keynote? This "upgrade" was immediately posted on every Gadget/Apple blog around the web worldwide. That's not quiet at all. This would never make front page news on CNN, so what is the best way to get it out to non-gadget followers? Launch it on iPhone 4 launch day!
No other computer released gets this much press (unless it's Apple).
Why is something like this "quietly upgraded" to MR? Is it because it wasn't announced at a keynote? This "upgrade" was immediately posted on every Gadget/Apple blog around the web worldwide. That's not quiet at all. This would never make front page news on CNN, so what is the best way to get it out to non-gadget followers? Launch it on iPhone 4 launch day!
No other computer released gets this much press (unless it's Apple).
If the Mac mini is comparative with the iMac just you have choice of monitor, then fair enough. You could get 2 22" HD monitors and it'd still be less than the iMac.
I would rather apple doesn't bother with bluray, they just make the hardware of the Mac mini server standard and leave it as that. I don't want optical media, I want storage.
However, it is a high price considering the mac mini was originally intended as a 'switchers' Mac. The G4 was my first Mac, and if it was £600, or even £400, I wouldn't have been able to get it. £340 was an awesome price back then.
Exactly. The Mac mini started from £339 when it was introduced. It only cost £399 until it was last updated 15 months ago.