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While I like the overall appearance I am very disappointed there is no blu-ray. I want to keep the number of components in my entertainment setup to a minimum, not need one for this, that, or that, and maybe that; get my drift?

and the price, damn this thing is getting up there. Perhaps with this refresh they will freshen the Apple TV and blu ray to that?

HD movie over internet is the future, not Bluray! Anyway Apple could put Bluray as optional.
 
Seriously? More BS from you? Do you want to back up that statement that an American owned company pays absolutely nothing to import their goods to the UK. I bet you think the regulatory fees and power adapter are free, too.

If those goods are computers, yes. The import duty fee on computer equipment to the UK is 0.00% Believe that applies to computers, mobile phones and digital cameras, maybe other items as well. You still pay VAT but there's no import duty.
 
So a 4GB Mac Mini configured on the Apple Store UK:

2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
320GB Serial ATA Drive

costs £852 in the UK. £80 more will get you 1TB of hard drive space, and lose the DVD drive (server variant) - or it will get you 500GB HD with the DVD drive (yes, £80 to upgrade the HD from 320GB to 500GB!).

That's £725 when VAT is removed. Which is $1068. No keyboard. No mouse. No monitor. Core 2 Duo with integrated graphics. $400 of that is design. $200 is OS + iLife.
 
is damn sexy... looks like the Apple TV :D
Love it~ I would like to put it near my TV

However... the price is quite expensive!!! :( not wroth~
 
yea but the 320m's not that great either. I guess mac's are never going to be the choice for gaming. I've tried on my new MBP 15 but I can spend the same sort of money and get a very high end gaming pc. Guess im stuck with a pc for gaming after all.

Nobody beats Apple in design. Johny Ive is a LEGEND!

Hope their hardware department could just wake up.

But seems gaming is ganing a lot of attention in Macs. Me and all my friends plays online at fps and rpg withour problems with Macs and 320M is quite good for a entry level gaming card. Do you think MacMini is a gaming machine?

Gfx option on Macs are quite good right now, the only problem are drivers. wake up Nvidia and Ati!!
 
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Perfect, looks like I may be importing one of them soon then. No problem with keyboard layouts either. :)

Seriously, that's a nice looking machine but it's just too expensive for what it is, especially in the UK and Germany. You can get a Macbook or iMac for just a little more with all peripheral built-in. It's definitely too expensive for a media center. If it had a built-in TV tuner, TiVo capabilities, Blu-Ray drive (and player) and included the remote, then the price would be somewhat adequate. They didn't even up the CPU specs...

It still is the cheapest option for a dual display Mac and by dual display I mean the ability to use two of the same affordable displays with it. Hackintosh it is then. :mad:
 
Expensive?

Expensive? Yes.

But it probably has a reason, to sell the upcoming Apple-TV better, which Apple has much more control over when they give it iOS4...
 
Great you go buy your plastic Dell.

Why so rude? Not everyone can justify the expensive price of $700 for the most affordable mac ever. Heck for $300 more, i can get a cheap looking plastic MacBook with the same specs. And some people have a hard time paying $700 for what you get on the INSIDE. Only 2 little GB or RAM? WTH? ONLY a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo? For $700, why not give us a high end C2D live a 2.8 or 3.06GHz?

And because the Mac Mini is a desktop computer, I really don't give a rats ass about its material. If its Aluminum, or plastic, its not moving anywhere, so it doesn't matter. Hell why not mount the logic board in a cardboard or styrofoam box? Its not going anywhere, so it doesn't matter.
 
See my answer to Calb.

[Edit] Calb answer has gone for moderation, no idea why.

In short: austerity measures will increase costs in Europe (both fixed and variable) and reduce volumes. Unit cost must rise (higher costs spread over lower volume) to compensate so the differential for doing business here relative to the US will be bigger. It might have been 7% before but it will be more now. Plus there is exchange rate risk.

Because the European economic situation has worsened considerably in last few weeks you can only make sensible comparison with a new price list.

Correct me if my calculations are wrong in this table, but it's a drastic step to move from ~7% to nearer 17%.

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Correct me if my calculations are wrong in this table, but it's a drastic step to move from ~7% to nearer 17%.

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Thanks, I think that will illustrate the issue to people here.

Of course, the iMac has yet to be updated (it's still 9400M at the low end), and when it is, I'm sure the price will also ramp up.

Looks like Apple expects the Euro currencies to drop quite a bit against the dollar in the next few months. Shame that they're bundling in Sterling too, but maybe they think we'll get a double dip recession with the cuts the new government is instilling.
 
Apple have lost my attention until they include blu ray drives in their machines.

Agreed. No point in buying any mac until Blu Ray drives come as standard on the machine. Otherwise you're just buying old technology. I stopped buying DVD's as soon as Blu Ray was released.
 
It looks nice. But for $699, it SHOULD have 4 GB RAM and not 2GB. It should also have a 2.66 GHz Core 2 Duo. If I could, there would be one model.

$699
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66 GHz
4 GB DDR3 RAM
500 GB SATA HD
Nvidia 320M

Look, everyone screaming about it being overpriced compared to a "Comparatively specced Dell" is just spouting BS. Dell right now ships 1 SFF PC and it is way more expensive than this mini. Always has been. It still has Intel integrated graphics, it still uses older DDR2 RAM and the base model has a Pentium Dual Core, not even a Core 2 Duo of all things.

The Mac Mini is overpriced only if you don't consider the form factor as being a feature.

That is the important point here. People comparing this to full sized desktops are plainly wrong.

BTW, before everyone starts pointing to the Zino HD, I don't consider some kind of AMD low power Atom equivalent to be "Comparatively specced" to a Mac Mini with a real Intel processor.
 
Excellent to finally see Americans complaining about the price of the Mini. (In Australia Apple's been charging like the proverbial wounded bull for years.) You're entirely correct though, Apple's priced the Mini out of the domestic market. There doesn't seem to be a server option this time around, and that's the only place I can see these things being bought.

I'm the first person to squeal about no-Blu-ray and how it's about time the BDA asks Apple to quit the organisation, but surely the Mini is the model that least needs a BD drive. If your Mini is next to your television, isn't your BD player next to your Mini?

At 50GB/movie, I'm unlikely to be ripping BDs, no matter how 'convenient'. iMacs and even MacBooks could benefit, if you want to watch a BD away from the living room. Much as I'd like to see all Macs with BD drives standard, even if they were only players, the Mini is the least of our worries.

Overpriced, under-spec.ed Core iWhat? This is like selling Pentiums when the C2Ds started taking off. Has Apple missed a CPU generational jump? As someone else posted—Jobs didn't want to get booed off the stage.

Apple's newest hobby. Not looking good…
(wait 12 months, iPad will be the next hobby if it doesn't get a Retina display and a camera)
 
Look, everyone screaming about it being overpriced compared to a "Comparatively specced Dell" is just spouting BS. Dell right now ships 1 SFF PC and it is way more expensive than this mini. Always has been. It still has Intel integrated graphics, it still uses older DDR2 RAM and the base model has a Pentium Dual Core, not even a Core 2 Duo of all things.

The Mac Mini is overpriced only if you don't consider the form factor as being a feature.

That is the important point here. People comparing this to full sized desktops are plainly wrong.

BTW, before everyone starts pointing to the Zino HD, I don't consider some kind of AMD low power Atom equivalent to be "Comparatively specced" to a Mac Mini with a real Intel processor.

I don't care about its formfactor. Make it as big as a stardard mac pro tower. Its not going to be moved. Oh, and I can find you a better speced Dell for the same price or similar.
 
Is anyone else actually concerned about the built in PSU? Wouldn't this open up the potential for Time Capsule related breakages?

Same worries here. I had a Time Capsule that died on me and was replaced.
The fan and ventilation on the redesigned Mini does look better though -- so hope they're adequate to minimise overheating problems.
 
Look, everyone screaming about it being overpriced compared to a "Comparatively specced Dell" is just spouting BS. Dell right now ships 1 SFF PC and it is way more expensive than this mini. Always has been. It still has Intel integrated graphics, it still uses older DDR2 RAM and the base model has a Pentium Dual Core, not even a Core 2 Duo of all things.

The Mac Mini is overpriced only if you don't consider the form factor as being a feature.

That is the important point here. People comparing this to full sized desktops are plainly wrong.

BTW, before everyone starts pointing to the Zino HD, I don't consider some kind of AMD low power Atom equivalent to be "Comparatively specced" to a Mac Mini with a real Intel processor.

perhaps then we should compare mac mini's with mac minis, which used to be near half the price of this new model
 
perhaps then we should compare mac mini's with mac minis, which used to be near half the price of this new model

Care to point out where those half the price Minis with the current specs are located on Apple's site ? :rolleyes:

I don't care about its formfactor. Make it as big as a stardard mac pro tower. Its not going to be moved. Oh, and I can find you a better speced Dell for the same price or similar.

Again, Dell doesn't make a better specced computer for the same price, they make a more expensive computer for the same price. I don't care that you don't care about the form factor.

Apple doesn't make a computer you want, don't buy an Apple. But don't go comparing Apple and Oranges and make stupid claims like "the Mac mini is overpriced". It's not. It's just you don't value the small form factor and thus any small form factor PC is overpriced to you for your needs.
 
Quietly Upgrades?

Why is something like this "quietly upgraded" to MR? Is it because it wasn't announced at a keynote? This "upgrade" was immediately posted on every Gadget/Apple blog around the web worldwide. That's not quiet at all. This would never make front page news on CNN, so what is the best way to get it out to non-gadget followers? Launch it on iPhone 4 launch day!

No other computer released gets this much press (unless it's Apple).
 
Look, everyone screaming about it being overpriced compared to a "Comparatively specced Dell" is just spouting BS. Dell right now ships 1 SFF PC and it is way more expensive than this mini. Always has been. It still has Intel integrated graphics, it still uses older DDR2 RAM and the base model has a Pentium Dual Core, not even a Core 2 Duo of all things.

The Mac Mini is overpriced only if you don't consider the form factor as being a feature.

That is the important point here. People comparing this to full sized desktops are plainly wrong.

BTW, before everyone starts pointing to the Zino HD, I don't consider some kind of AMD low power Atom equivalent to be "Comparatively specced" to a Mac Mini with a real Intel processor.

If the Mac mini is comparative with the iMac just you have choice of monitor, then fair enough. You could get 2 22" HD monitors and it'd still be less than the iMac.

I would rather apple doesn't bother with bluray, they just make the hardware of the Mac mini server standard and leave it as that. I don't want optical media, I want storage.

However, it is a high price considering the mac mini was originally intended as a 'switchers' Mac. The G4 was my first Mac, and if it was £600, or even £400, I wouldn't have been able to get it. £340 was an awesome price back then.
 
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