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Guys - any new Mac Pro will have to be shipped with Leopard now - the fact that CS3 has problems with Leopard and that a large percentage of Mac Pro buyers use CS3 means they aint gonna release it until it's fixed.

Otherwise people will be lumbered with an OS that won't work with their software - and for businesses that just aint no darn good.
 
Guys - any new Mac Pro will have to be shipped with Leopard now - the fact that CS3 has problems with Leopard and that a large percentage of Mac Pro buyers use CS3 means they aint gonna release it until it's fixed.

Otherwise people will be lumbered with an OS that won't work with their software - and for businesses that just aint no darn good.

Sorry, don't you mean any new Mac Pro will have to be shipped with Tiger now?
 
Guys - any new Mac Pro will have to be shipped with Leopard now - the fact that CS3 has problems with Leopard and that a large percentage of Mac Pro buyers use CS3 means they aint gonna release it until it's fixed.

Otherwise people will be lumbered with an OS that won't work with their software - and for businesses that just aint no darn good.

Which is why Apple should allow users to select which version of the OS the machine is shipped with:mad: Where I work we don't use CS3(or any "pro app" really), but we are still hesitant to buy the 100 mac pros we need because we cannot get them shipped with Tiger. Our application hasn't been tested with Leopard yet and we don't have the time to do a thorough test right now. Longterm we will have to move to Leopard, but I still don't understand why Apple won't allow new machines to run older versions of their OS!
 
Guys - any new Mac Pro will have to be shipped with Leopard now - the fact that CS3 has problems with Leopard and that a large percentage of Mac Pro buyers use CS3 means they aint gonna release it until it's fixed.


That´s the same bloody whine that was in the summer 2006.

"Apple wont release any intel based G5s ´cos Photoshop would have to run under rosetta..blah..blah..".

Macpros were released in the end of the summer and we run the CS2 under rosetta for 8 months before CS3 was released.

Apple wont hold up the new MP for some bloody app´s that has to be updated.Be it adobes or apples fault.
If there is a reason for MP not coming next tuesday, if wont be the un-compability of one production tool,no matter how important it might be.
 
That´s the same bloody whine that was in the summer 2006.

"Apple wont release any intel based G5s ´cos Photoshop would have to run under rosetta..blah..blah..".

Macpros were released in the end of the summer and we run the CS2 under rosetta for 8 months before CS3 was released.

Apple wont hold up the new MP for some bloody app´s that has to be updated.Be it adobes or apples fault.
If there is a reason for MP not coming next tuesday, if wont be the un-compability of one production tool,no matter how important it might be.

Then explain why there hasn't been a MacPro update for well over a year - or why Leopard was delayed so much.

As for your reasoning with rosetta - atleast everything worked - at the moment there are serious troubles with CS3.

I am unsure if your a pro user or not but I am and I certainly wouldn't buy a computer that couldn't run my software properly. Hence why I have leopard here still in it's selophane.

And I can't see many other design professionals spending upwards of £2-5k on a computer that won't let them print PDFs etc

So if they do release it, then it's pretty uneventful as far as the professional users go - and those happen to be the users they target.
 
Then explain why there hasn't been a MacPro update for well over a year - or why Leopard was delayed so much.

OOO OOOO, I know this one... No MacPro because no good chips were out, Apple likes to do things 2x faster. And Leopard was delayed cause of the stupid, oh yes, stupid iPhone. If there was no iPhone, I'd have my MacPro by now, with Leopard... In the Spring. :)
 
Yes, and without Penryn :D

- Martin

Lol. I would have been satisfied though if I bought around then, would care less about Penryn. Now that we are too close to Penryn, I'm forced to play the waiting game. I wanted a new MacPro when Leopard came out. It haaaaaaaaaad to come out close to Penryn didn't it? lol I can only wait so long. Hopefully some good hardcore rumors surface this weekend.

Apple stores need to be notified of new shipments coming in, right? Or is that stuff done last minute, like Monday night or Tuesday morning? IF a new MacPro were to come.
 
do they have such a meeting only before new product launches?

Thats a good question, I think I was to happy to hear about the possibility of new macs that I forgot to ask. I'll find out after the meeting though.
 
Leopard is just another vista but done the mac way.

I reverted back to tiger-300 features my ass.
Boooooooo
 
Which is why Apple should allow users to select which version of the OS the machine is shipped with:mad: Where I work we don't use CS3(or any "pro app" really), but we are still hesitant to buy the 100 mac pros we need because we cannot get them shipped with Tiger. Our application hasn't been tested with Leopard yet and we don't have the time to do a thorough test right now. Longterm we will have to move to Leopard, but I still don't understand why Apple won't allow new machines to run older versions of their OS!

I would love for this to be the case :), since the software that I want to use on the mac pro, currently doesn't even open on leopard, and won't until like Mayish. Bah!

Guess I'll have to use stupid bootcamp.
 
Leopard is just another vista but done the mac way.

I reverted back to tiger-300 features my ass.
Boooooooo

I've been running Leopard with 0 problems, I'm not sure what people are experiencing with it.

Anyway, I haven't had problems with CS3 (don't use it for my livelihood or anything though), but I suspect that if Apple updated their hardware, causing a larger influx of sales, adobe would be quicker to fix whatever issues still remain.
 
I'm hoping for (and half-expecting) an announcement next week. Baring a major case redesign (or new product line) Apple will treat this as a quite update (product upgrade) so there's no need for a major announcement.

I totally think this is the direction Apple will take -- One last quiet update.

The Big Bang comes next Spring.
 
IMHO, my 4 core that I bought in Sept '06 is a fine machine and as far as a MP update is concerned all I want are new video card options. Back then it seemed like there was no middle ground - the ATI card was getting tons of negative feedback and unless you wanted to cough up some seriously moolah for the Quadro you were left with a lightweight 7300GT (which I got). Having said that, I'd be up for anything that could dramatically improve my video rendering times and truly utilize all 4 of the cores I do have.
 
Have you tried? I am only asking because I am actually running CS3 in Leopard right now as I write this...

No way - I have read that certain programs are incompatable - I can't afford to take risks when i KNOW they are incompatable - I rely on my Mac Pro to make a living.

Regardless of all the bugs - the simple fact that there is no PDF printer means I can't work - sure there are workarounds but for example I need to PDF invoices on a daily basis from Word.
 
Optical Drive

I see HP now offers this:

Blu-ray writer / HD DVD player & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner

IF the MacPro is released next week, hopefully they will have a similar drive...:apple:
 
Which is why Apple should allow users to select which version of the OS the machine is shipped with:mad: Where I work we don't use CS3(or any "pro app" really), but we are still hesitant to buy the 100 mac pros we need because we cannot get them shipped with Tiger. Our application hasn't been tested with Leopard yet and we don't have the time to do a thorough test right now. Longterm we will have to move to Leopard, but I still don't understand why Apple won't allow new machines to run older versions of their OS!


If you're dropping well over 300k on computers I think you need to speak with someone at Apple with some pull. There's just no way I can imagine they wouldn't put tiger on there and add fries.
 
I don't really get this "CS3 isn't working with Leopard" thing. First of all very shortly all Macs will be shipping with Leopard, preinstalled. So lets say Apple doesn't update next week. We still have Mac Pros (updated or not) going out to pro users possibly with Leopard installed, where their apps won't work.

So explain this, how is updating the hardware (presumably with Leopard as well) going to make the problem any worse. New Macs will get Leopard anyway, irrespective of a hardware update.

I don't know when the thing is coming out, but this theory is completely bunk.

Also, CS3 is running fine on the machines we have deployed with Leopard installed. And yes, these are people who rely on their Macs to do their jobs and we have had zero complaints.
 
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