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You can build a PC and get much more performance for the same price as the M2 Ultra Mac Studio. Frankly, Apple Silicon on desktop makes no sense because performance per watt is of no concern. Who are Mac Studio's and the upcoming Mac Pro for? Apple can't compete with nVidia, AMD and Intel on desktop systems. Buying Apple desktop hardware is throwing away money.
Do you pay for electricity?!?! Buying ridiculously inefficient PC hardware with terrible performance per watt is actually throwing money away.
 
Yeah, this is the correct rumour. Nevermind when he tweeted that the Mac Studio was going to be discontinued after 1 generation.
Reminds me of Kuo with his continuous sliding window of predictions that have be “adjusted a couple years out” due to new supply chain surveys
 
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If they launch an updated model as I long said they would, it’ll be a slap in the face of all those on here claiming it was only a stop gap machine and would not be updated ever.
 
If they launch an updated model as I long said they would, it’ll be a slap in the face of all those on here claiming it was only a stop gap machine and would not be updated ever.

That would include Gurman himself, you know.
 
So, it's a refresh of the current studio display? Well, I hope they make the stand an inch or two taller, thanks! The iMac (2020) has the perfect height for my neck.
This is what happens when you don't read (or even peruse) the article and just look at the picture. It's about the Mac Studio COMPUTER, not the Studio Display.
 
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The Mac Studio getting an update after just over a year? That's good, in isolation.

What's less good is what this implies for the Mac Pro. I think Gurman's earlier reporting made sense: that the Studio and Pro would follow a tick-tock cycle. M1 Studio, M2 Pro, M3 Studio, etc. If they're doing an M2 Studio, I think that means the M2 Pro isn't coming.

Which, I get it: it's quite an engineering puzzle to make their SoC approach work for such an expandable machine. But the problem is that you can never really trust Apple that there will be another Mac Pro at all. Will it be like the 2013 Pro again? Probably not; the Studio already exists. So then will they not do it at all? Will they do one very five years?

Consider this: They could at this point have upgraded the 2019 Mac Pro’s CPU twice. They never have (some components such as the GPU got occasional new options).

Upgrade the W-3275M (205W, $7,453) to the w7-2495X (225W-270W, $2,189), and

• single-core perf goes up 52%
• multi-core perf goes up 60%

Now, an M2 Ultra will already do even better (the M1 Ultra has 73% better single-core and 70% better multi-core), but migrating to that clearly presents a bigger engineering challenge. Do you make the memory non-unified? Do you make it hybrid, where some apps use on-package memory and others use slot memory? Do you add support for non-integrated graphics?
 
My desktop PC has fans that NEVER stop running. My desktop Mac fans seem like they never run. I record audio and could not use the PC just siitting on my desk as it’s too noisy. There are definite benefits to a more efficient processor, including a fan-less laptop.
Sounds like you need a different desktop PC. Your experience is not representative of most desktop PC's.
 
Only if you compare iGPUs directly to dGPUs, which you really shouldn't.
Tell me why ?

I want to compare the best thing Apple has to offer in a desktop computer vs the best thing a PC has to offer in a desktop computer. Apples to Apples.
 
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What's less good is what this implies for the Mac Pro. I think Gurman's earlier reporting made sense: that the Studio and Pro would follow a tick-tock cycle. M1 Studio, M2 Pro, M3 Studio, etc. If they're doing an M2 Studio, I think that means the M2 Pro isn't coming.
I think the Mac Pro is going to get M3 Max Duo (= Ultra) or Quadro (= Extreme) right off the bat, and you'll be able to upgrade the SoC when they come out. It won't matter TSMC, because their output of 3nm will be very low, and the Mac Pro sales are always very low by definition, because it's by far the most expensive product in the lineup.

The Mac Studio will always receive these updates at least 1 year later (when the Mac Pro sales are fading away, and when the 3nm output will be high) and you'll never be able to upgrade the SoC.
 
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Mark Gurman! I'm coming for your job buddy!!! I'mma throw a couple bucks at industrial design sophomores over at the local university to do some product renderings of products I don't have a clue about, make wild predictions, and then contradict those predictions several times!!! Then call myself a "reporter"!!! Your days are numbered my friend!
 
The way that Apple locks one out of 3rd party GPUs, it looks like Mac hardware lost out on LLMs. I don't really believe the high performance dogma of Macs any more. Especially since they are still thermally limited.
 
Will they also be able to design it properly instead of recycling the waste of unsold Mac minis?
No, I don't think so.
At least the Studio has some USB-C ports on the front and a card reader, while they never updated the Mini's face with something in over 12 years.
 
I really hope they fix the whine.

If only to prevent the several hundred page long threads at MacRumors about whether or not people can hear the whine or not.
All it takes to fix the whine is a proper heat sink and a low speed or no fan, but Apple fired all of there Heat Sink engineers years ago.
 
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The biggest issue with the GPU is that lack of raytracing support. Its rumoured for M3 but that is still a year or so away. :(

So the M2 Ultra will likely gain the 1st place in Geekbench 6, in terms of CPUs.
As for GPUs, it's better not to talk about it. Apple is 2-3 years behind the competition.
 
You can build a PC and get much more performance for the same price as the M2 Ultra Mac Studio. Frankly, Apple Silicon on desktop makes no sense because performance per watt is of no concern. Who are Mac Studio's and the upcoming Mac Pro for? Apple can't compete with nVidia, AMD and Intel on desktop systems. Buying Apple desktop hardware is throwing away money.

I’m replacing a PC with a Studio.

I lost interest on playing games on a computer. Consoles fill that void pretty good.
 
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