Thats true but anything is possible just have to wait and see what happens I guess
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New MacBook Air, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini With M1 Chip Available to Order, Launch Next Week
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I ordered the pro, now thinking along the same lines as you...
It’ll take a long time. The majority will never update to m1 apps. Remember the last time Apple promised photoshop? (On iPad). A year later a poor version of it finally came out.
Want your favorite iOS app on this? Many of the tops ones are declining to do so.
I was worried that memory was going to be severely limited. that seems to be the case. With memory. CPU cores, and GPU cores all on the same die, increasing any one, means reducing one of the others. Integration makes for speed and efficiency, at the cost of hard limits.
Dunno. At least 2. It’s notable that the first devices are “low end.” I expect a second variation for imacs and high end MacBook pros. Whether they bother with a third variety for “iPad Pro” or “Mac Pro,” who knows. Probably at some point. I expect in the long run they will target the high end, and anything that bins lower will end up at the low end. Maybe these M1s are already M1x‘s with 1 or 2 cores that don’t work
I didn't see the event, so I don't understand what's being claimed here. Did they show one of the new machines doing something it's actually incapable of doing? if so, how did they manage that?
A lot of posts in this thread (could quote many more) seem to assume the new machines are the only ones Apple offers for each type. Looking at the website, that's clearly not true. You can still get them with a lot more RAM, just not with the new AS and more RAM. What's all the fuss about, then? I'm sure more RAM with AS will be forthcoming, when it's ready.
A few weeks ago, few expected to see any AS until next year. Now people are upset that there's some available sooner, but it's not the highest-end stuff. That will likely still come next year as expected.
I don’t consider myself a full power user but I love using it in Xcode for auto completion. It’s like a way to get touch screen elements for buttons that would normally need a mouse click or remember some complicated key combo. It’s like a bridge between regular users and power users. I just wish it was on the external keyboard.
I wonder how that will work when playing a youtube video. An iPhone and iPad can play a Youtube video with no fan but many computers start spinning their fans at max RPM once you start playing a video which is quite mind boggling..
Yes, it is fantastic. I literally use it 3-4 hours a day just for these purposes. There is a GoPro Webcam app you have to download, it just sits in the status bar (sorry, whatever the MacOS term is) where you can control the focal zoom from wide, tight, or medium. The quality absolutely blows away my Logitech 4K Brio.
I'm really curious about the possibility to run IOS apps.
Will support be sketchy, or reliable?
I mean, if you get the entry Mini as a living room computer, and that thing can run the YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime etc... IOS apps with no problem, what will be the use for the Apple TV?
OK, the Apple TV will be a lot cheaper and have a love/hate remote, but the Mini would certainly offer a lot more flexibility.
Will support be sketchy, or reliable?
I mean, if you get the entry Mini as a living room computer, and that thing can run the YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime etc... IOS apps with no problem, what will be the use for the Apple TV?
OK, the Apple TV will be a lot cheaper and have a love/hate remote, but the Mini would certainly offer a lot more flexibility.
There's no problem with the FOV? Isn't it a wide-angle lens that really deforms faces?
Why was the performance comparison against some mystery laptop and not their existing Intel-based MBP?
Dunno. At least 2. It’s notable that the first devices are “low end.” I expect a second variation for imacs and high end MacBook pros. Whether they bother with a third variety for “iPad Pro” or “Mac Pro,” who knows. Probably at some point. I expect in the long run they will target the high end, and anything that bins lower will end up at the low end. Maybe these M1s are already M1x‘s with 1 or 2 cores that don’t work
Talking about the Mac Pro, I'm curious about the possibility to have dual-CPUs configurations.
No idea if that would work, but one would assume only one M1/M1x might be a tiny wee-bit not enough for, say, 8K video editing with 3 video streams + color correction, transitions and effects.
The website states which Intel based i7 Mac they compare to with each benchmark and which app.
It could be done, bit it’s often not worth it - typically a better idea to just double the number of cores in the CPU Package. Depends on yield, expected sales, etc. But there is considerable penalty going to multiple sockets. The buffers on the bus can get very complicated. And scheduling gets much more complicated, so the performance advantage takes a hit.
On Apple's site, the MBA M1 is compared to the i7 MBA. You have to read Footnote 2 to discover that: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/
The paucity of ports on the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro 13" never ceases to amaze.
Apparently Apple believes that these models are for users who will be taking them everywhere and rarely need to connect to peripherals or hardware-based storage. Wired mice? Ha! Buy a dongle. External backup hard drives in enclosures? Ha! Buy a dongle. Need to connect to more than one USB-MIDI device for your electronic music needs? Ha! Buy a USB interface with hub, or buy a dongle.
Buy a Mac, buy a dongle.
As much as I love using my Macs, I admit to feeling spoiled when I have to open up my Windows PC, an LG Gram 17 with three (!) USB-A ports, a USB-C port, an HDMI port and a micro-SD card slot. It really makes a difference to have the ports you need on-hand, rather than worrying if you're missing something.
Such is the design spirit of Apple, a growing trend with their notebook line since 2016 in particular.
At least they could have brought back MagSafe. Of course, there are advantages to drawing power via USB-C as well...
Apparently Apple believes that these models are for users who will be taking them everywhere and rarely need to connect to peripherals or hardware-based storage. Wired mice? Ha! Buy a dongle. External backup hard drives in enclosures? Ha! Buy a dongle. Need to connect to more than one USB-MIDI device for your electronic music needs? Ha! Buy a USB interface with hub, or buy a dongle.
Buy a Mac, buy a dongle.
As much as I love using my Macs, I admit to feeling spoiled when I have to open up my Windows PC, an LG Gram 17 with three (!) USB-A ports, a USB-C port, an HDMI port and a micro-SD card slot. It really makes a difference to have the ports you need on-hand, rather than worrying if you're missing something.
Such is the design spirit of Apple, a growing trend with their notebook line since 2016 in particular.
At least they could have brought back MagSafe. Of course, there are advantages to drawing power via USB-C as well...
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I'm with you on that one.
We have a iPad at home, that is now more or less exclusively used by my daughter for gaming and for some Skype with my parents.
I needed a little something a bit more convenient to carry around when teaching left and right, and ended up buying a cheap Acer Chromebook with 360-degrees hinges. Cheaper than the cheapest iPad.
While the Chromebook has drawbacks, its 2 USB-C ports, 2 USB-A ports, and micro SD card reader kinda made the iPad weep. It's also built like a tank, which is neat when you're surrounded by young kids and with no Japanese teaching assistant to help police the crowd.
I mean, I would be scared to drop the iPad on a soft carpet, even from a very low height. The Chromebook already fell from a table, on a wooden floor, and didn't even get a scratch or dent.
Only 16 GB of RAM maximum on all, even the 13" MBP and the Mac Mini. Only two TB/USB-C ports on all, even the Mac Mini which used to have four. No more 10 GB Ethernet option on the Mac Mini. No more external GPU support via Thunderbolt.
Everyone seems to be wowed by the performance and battery life compared to the models which they are replacing. While this definitely looks to be the case that both are improved (at least for the exact models which they replaced), many other things which really matter to a lot of people are just poof, gone.
Overall, it's a disappointment for me, at least for this initial rollout.
Everyone seems to be wowed by the performance and battery life compared to the models which they are replacing. While this definitely looks to be the case that both are improved (at least for the exact models which they replaced), many other things which really matter to a lot of people are just poof, gone.
Overall, it's a disappointment for me, at least for this initial rollout.
iPads can actually take a surprising amount of beating. I can't count the number of accidental drops and dings my iPad Air 2 and iPad mini 4 have seen. They are, after all, designed for a wide variety of age groups, and that includes small kids.
Not gone, just not in the base models. You can still get more RAM and ports, just as before, just not with the current AS.
