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New MacBook Air, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini With M1 Chip Available to Order, Launch Next Week

luigi408 said:
Looks good for ARM based computer, but sadly not for me. I need a way to install Windows for personal and work use (full x86). Also, how open is the ecosystem? Will it require to only install apps from App Store like iOS? If so, that’s a big no for me.
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If not able to install Windows then at minimum it needs to run MS Office.

Presumably MS Office will run in 'emulation' on an ARM based Mac. But will it be fast and reliable?

I suspect many will hold back from purchasing until we know the answer to that one.
 
Wacom to release a tablet that can be plugged to Samsung Phone (and other phones).... That should happen

You have a nice screen to work with (wacom screen), you promote developers to develop powerful professional apps for Android,....

Get a keyboard, then your mobile phone would become a real portable computer to make diagnostics, and/or other day to day real professional scenarios where you would need a laptop

** not just wacom, anyone could make a portable screen to attach into your phone... ohh thats not good looking, are you sure? (and/or who cares?), if I have a nice case where I can properly save the phone while working with the screen/tablet I have enough

and people wouldn't need that many devices (aren't they looking to unify architectures?)

Apple could offer the possibility to attach your iPhone to the iPad also, to provide extra CPU/GPU power

That makes real sense if you are looking for a portable "Pro" workstation

then you wouldn't need to buy a laptop, just a keyboard, with your iPad + iPhone you have more than enough force power

aren't Big Sur apps going ARM now?

or just sell kinda case/interface to fit iPad + iPhone, with a little SSD where there is Big Sur installed

and this interface able to use the power of both devices

they can keep away the laptops, and make kinda "new revolution"

they always claim to be "that green and eco", this new ecosystem "phone + screen" would be awesome
 
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mike... said:
This will drastically increase the wear on the SSD and result in its early death. I have a 16GB MBP right now and if I'm working hard it can end up swapping over 200GB a day! Luckily the SSD is replaceable so I don't care, but I certainly would on a new Mac.
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What? I’ve been running my 2012 Mac Mini off of a USB SSD for almost three years and it’s been fine.
 
Samuel Sosa said:
This is the first step I have a feeling touch screen Macs are coming its only a matter of time.
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100% definitely not. You'll just get better iOS version. I've no idea why people think macOS would suddenly have a touch interface when iOS is the touch enabled OS.
 
anshuvorty said:
I ordered the Air. Let's see how it turns out. Base config. I think it should be ok and if it is not, I will just return it within 2 weeks.
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I'm seriously gonna test that battery claim when I get it next week for the next 2 weeks. My test (realistic) will be how I use my iPhone, so I get a more realistic sense of the battery life:
  • charge it up to 100%
  • use it like normal
  • leave it unplugged overnight
  • come back to it the next morning and see the results.
If what Apple claims is true, then the Air's battery life shouldn't deplete overnight and I should be around 60-70% when I come back to it the next morning. The same is true with my iPhone, I rarely have to charge it overnight, but got in the habit of charging my iPhone overnight.
 
shplock said:
Why are so many people complaining about no 14" MacBooks? Nobody and I mean Nobody needs 14". 13" is more than enough for most users and for those who need more power etc can get the 16". If anyone insists that they need somehow einbetween than you just end up getting stupid as someone could say that they need 14.2" and another person says they need 14.9" and yet another person decides they need 15.8" and so on.
That just is ridiculous. So my advice to you all is get over it and work with what is available.
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Thanks man. Noted. I just find it ironic that you don't find the hypocrisy in your argument. You're telling everyone to be happy with 13", but not 14", purely because that's the size that's available? Other vendors have squeezed in 14" screens in similar sized chassis', heck Apple has done the same wtih the 16" MBP and it's almost 15" MBP body.

Jog on mate.
 
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I saw and heard the event today at my new job (yep, a computer-related job at a data recycling and reselling center, which also includes me wiping and resetting and fixing up Macs for resell!) and thought it sounded pretty cool. But when I buy a new Mac laptop at the very end of this year or the start of next year, I may still go for the $1799 Intel 13" MacBook Pro, because I may still want to make my transition gradual as well. I might wait until later next year or even the year after to replace my 2012 quad-core i7 Mac Mini with one of those new M1 Chip Minis, which I will admit DO look and sound really cool. But I may want to wait a bit and hear reviews about them, and once there's more support and software from them and such. But they DO sound promising to me.

As for pricing, again, I'm not surprised the MacBooks are priced the same, because I'm still reminded of how 16 years ago, the base-line 12" iBook G4's price was also $999, like the new base-line MacBook Air is. I wonder if is somewhat of an intentional reference, as the recent MacBook Airs now pretty much fill the same position the iBooks originally did (and the polycarbonate MacBooks from 2006-2011, too.)
But I AM surprised by the cheaper Mac Minis. Though if I were to configure one of the new models to my liking, it'd still run me up to $1299 (with 16 GB of RAM and a 1 TB SSD, like my 2012 Mini currently has), but it's not too bad to me though, as it'd definitely be $500 less than the MacBook Pro I plan to buy soon! (Though my new computer job has pretty good pay, so that helps a lot!)
 
mike... said:
I don't understand your point?
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A USB SSD doesn’t get a lot of the optimizations that an on-board SSD would have, but it’s still fine after constant use as the boot drive for a server for years. I thought you were concerned about the longevity of the SSD in the new architecture. In the worst case, using an external SSD would help to alleviate load on the internal SSD.
 
Trager said:
A USB SSD doesn’t get a lot of the optimizations that an on-board SSD would have, but it’s still fine after constant use as the boot drive for a server for years. I thought you were concerned about the longevity of the SSD in the new architecture. In the worst case, using an external SSD would help to alleviate load on the internal SSD.
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No I'm talking about if you're a Pro user that needs a lot of RAM but is forced to take a 16GB machine. If you run out memory, macOS will use your SSD which will wear it out. Using an external SSD won't help unless you boot from it, in which case it is likely to be significantly slower than the internal SSD. If the internal SSD dies completely, the Mac will not boot from an external drive. To install to a USB drive macOS after High Sierra requires a valid macOS partition on an internal drive.
 
Would love to order a MBA or Mini, but can only imagine the disaster that the 1st gen Rosetta will be.

Can we expect M1 apps immediately or are developers behind the curve? (apart from Lightroom and PS 2021 next year)? If there aren't any (or many) M1 apps for the next few months, what's the point?
 
dmylrea said:
Can we expect M1 apps immediately or are developers behind the curve? (apart from Lightroom and PS 2021 next year)? If there aren't any (or many) M1 apps for the next few months, what's the point?
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It's going to vary. Many apps are ready now thanks to the DTKs, but during today's event Apple explicity said Photoshop will be available "early next year". There'll be plenty of apps that aren't available now, so everyone should check every app they use before they hit the buy button.
 
If they do that they would collapse the market

>> Interface to connect iPad + your iPhone

Would be like a case with keyboard and an small SSD with full MacOS system

when you plug both iPad + iPhone

Operating System would use 2 CPUs + 2 GPUs

that would destroy the actual market

They stop making laptopts and just sell this interface plus the option to buy iPad + iPhone together at once (with an inherit discount)

Pro Desktop workstation could be kinda same interface (accepting getting the power of existent devices iPhone + Ipad), plus another bigger screen (nowadays iMac) with 2 ARM chipsets × 2 more GPUs [that's just an example of kinda expandable, eco architecture]

Also I understand this kinda combination could be done only among same family Gen chipsets or maybe among 1 down, 1 up Gen family


So MacOS, system will read like
iPhone + iPad
16 Cores CPU + 16 Cores GPU

iPhone + iPad + iMac
16 Cores CPU + 16 Cores GPU (like before)
+ another
16 Core CPU + 16 Core CPU from desktop bigscreen iMac interface
 
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