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New MacBook Air, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini With M1 Chip Available to Order, Launch Next Week
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They're charging the same price though. It's not like they slotted in a new tier under the older systems. Also those Intel systems will likely have slower CPU performance. It's crazy. These Macs are a downgrade for Pro users who can now choose to have more RAM with a slow CPU, or a fast CPU with insufficient RAM. That isn't a very good choice to force people in to. I can completely understand the MBA being limited to 16GB, but the MBP when it previously has a 32GB option? That makes no sense. And it makes no sense to force people on to the soon-to-be-obsolete Intel platform just to get 32GB.
Parallels is working on x86 emulation. They have not promised it, but are trying.
Got it. Nothing documentable from apple or the chip maker that states that more than 16gb of ram will be coming to the 13mbp in the future. Luckily we have you, who knows “how these things work.”
- He wants a good performance/value ratio. A legit thing to desire.
- "Better performance" and "longer battery" are yet to stand the test of real world usage. As such, those aren't factual confirmation.
What? They're charging the same price as the 8th Gen Intel chips (which were 3 years outdated!) - the 8th Gen MacBook Pro did not have a 32gb option, it was 8gb and 16gb as well.
All they've done is swap out the 8th Gen Intel chips for the M1. Same prices. Not as good as the top end Intel and by "soon to be obsolete" you mean "still running the same way it did when I bought after 8 years" then yeah sure.
Well obviously - you couldn't order the 8th Gen Intel it's replaced with more than 16gb of ram either - nothing has change. What is wrong with you people? You just didn't know or understand the product line before I guess.
And the Mac Mini? Which has a 64GB option?? Also it makes no sense to not offer 32GB on this new MBP. The CPU is more powerful than the 10th gen 13" MBPs. It's just a bizarre combination. Fast CPU, limited RAM.
No, I mean unsupported by macOS in maybe five years. Seven if we're really lucky and Apple keep supporting them for as long as they have, but we can reasonably expect Apple to be keen to cut support the first chance they get.
Running the latest macOS is important if you're a developer because Xcode updates are tied to it.
Do you really believe this Apple ARM CPU is better than Intel 10th Gen?
Does it has Hyper VM this ARM Chipset among other Intel features?
When they did the PPC update - you got 3 major macOS updates and then the last version was supported for another 5 years (and still works exactly the same to this day) so you can say official support was dropped after 8 years, but the product still works exactly the way you did when you bought it now. Honestly I think 3 years should be upgrade time for any system anyway.
It's not a case of purposely "not offering" a 32gb option its obvious the M1 chip doesn't' support more than 16gb of ram in it's bus lanes, the same way it doesn't support more than two USB4/TB ports either - it's part of the way the entire thing works, it's an entry level processor.
You can still buy the Intel Mac mini with 32gb, 64gb (user replaceable too) ram and 10gbit ports and all the other better upgrades...eventually Apple will have their processor which will do this.
Obviously there's going to be a point where lower end processors slightly cannibalise the product line as they're a bit better than the processor above - until the entire line has moved over. There's not a lot you can do about that, it's the nature of the game. I highly doubt the M1 is better than the top end 10th Gen Intel over all, at some things it probably is, but when they build they processor which enables double the ram and bandwidth lanes it'll likely destroy the 10th Gen Intel line. At that point the platform will be more mature too as smaller devs will have been able to use the M1 systems to compile and develop on.
It's very exciting IMO and it all makes perfect sense to me - start at the bottom and ramp up. It's one thing making high TDP chips it's another creating something which will beat the Xeon processors in the iMac Pro and Mac Pro - but eventually they'll either get there, or more or less compete with them (probably won't beat Ryzen power, but you'll have no choice, like you can't buy a Ryzen Mac now either)
I don't believe Apple just lied to everyone when they said it was 3x faster than the Intel chip it replaced. The top-end Intel chips from the same lines of Macs were marginally faster than the lower-end ones, nowhere near 3x faster. So yes I believe Apple's CPU is faster than the 10th gen chips in the 13" MacBook Pros.
Hyper-V is a Microsoft software product. Why would Apple hardware support that? You must be referring to VT-d/VT-x, those are Intel proprietary extensions so of course the Apple chips don't support that.
HOWEVER they do fully support virtualisation and Apple already demonstrated macOS on a DTK hosting a Debian VM during WWDC.
Really only bummer for me is the 2 display limitation on the mini, 
Really was hoping it would support more than the intel machines not less.
Really was hoping it would support more than the intel machines not less. Nope. I'm afraid it's the same old 720p camera. :-(And now it gets iPhone parts for things like the webcam and microphone! The good stuff!
This was easily the worst Apple event I've seen in years. It felt like a giant infomercial. Instead of making customers feel special with new designs, we just got "2x faster!" "10x longer!" "5x better!" nonsense. It felt like Apple was talking directly to the PC industry trying to sell them the M1 for their own laptops because I saw no benefit to Mac users at all except a little faster but with a lot less software support and native iOS apps on a laptop without a touch screen which is worthless.
Apple's new MacBook Air, 13-inch MacBook Pro, and Mac mini with the Apple-designed M1 chip are now available to order on Apple.com and through the Apple Store app, and they will be available in stores starting November 17.
The new MacBook Air starts at $999, the new 13-inch MacBook Pro starts at $1,299, and the new Mac mini starts at $699.
- New MacBook Air Announced as First Apple Silicon Mac With M1 Chip and Fanless Design
- Apple Unveils New Mac Mini Powered By M1 Chip, Pricing Now Starts at $699
- Apple Announces New 13-inch MacBook Pro With M1 Apple Silicon, Starting at $1299
Article Link: New MacBook Air, 13-Inch MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini With M1 Chip Available to Order, Launch November 17
Thanks. Im both a Mac an PC user. I love Apple for personal stuff and a PC for work. I try to not be a fan boy lol. What people are not realizing is that apple has just touch the surface of what apple silicon can do. I know people are going to complain about users not being able to upgrade the ram and what not. You have to look at the customer experience and not just specs. Apple is delivering a great beginning to what can potentially be the next evolution of what a computer can be and do. I also believe apple got sick of waiting on intel as see in other articles, and said screw it we will make our own. Now they are not dependent on Intel anymore so now they can do whatever they want. Intel has been holding them back for a while now hence why there product line has not change in many years. Replacing the guts is a quick solution to moving to a new architecture. Soon they can build from the inside out I suspect the new iMac will be as thin as an iPad Pro. At least that's what I hope for
This is the first step I have a feeling touch screen Macs are coming its only a matter of time.
Since 2016 had been reports about Intel working on ARM chipsets.
Yeah... maybe in the future (5-6 years) powerful ARM chipsets become popular between worldwide consumers, when developers already had ported tons of software to ARM (thanks to apple, that's true) and maybe because of working under better heat dissipation conditions.
Multiplatform code is the new standard, so after 5years same code could be used to run same apps you have on apple (if legally they allow it, and/or companies want) on Windows ARM operating system or any other Operating System out there by then
But hey... being 100% realistic, if technology still getting those jumps what makes sense is just letting plug your mobile phone to a big screen for those that do not really need extra power (most of users)
Again if you want to consume new 4K products, top end hardware product would last you at least 6-8 years (take in consideration new videoconsoles those are who really lead this battle)
and no, I'm not a gamer, not a single videoconsole at home, not playing any high end videogame on my mac either
If you are a software developer, you are working with vectors, etc etc. Same top end hardware should last your those 6 to 8 years (you do not need to upgrade it every 2-3 years, as some nice fellow kinda stated on previous posts)
Yeah... maybe in the future (5-6 years) powerful ARM chipsets become popular between worldwide consumers, when developers already had ported tons of software to ARM (thanks to apple, that's true) and maybe because of working under better heat dissipation conditions.
Multiplatform code is the new standard, so after 5years same code could be used to run same apps you have on apple (if legally they allow it, and/or companies want) on Windows ARM operating system or any other Operating System out there by then
But hey... being 100% realistic, if technology still getting those jumps what makes sense is just letting plug your mobile phone to a big screen for those that do not really need extra power (most of users)
Again if you want to consume new 4K products, top end hardware product would last you at least 6-8 years (take in consideration new videoconsoles those are who really lead this battle)
and no, I'm not a gamer, not a single videoconsole at home, not playing any high end videogame on my mac either
If you are a software developer, you are working with vectors, etc etc. Same top end hardware should last your those 6 to 8 years (you do not need to upgrade it every 2-3 years, as some nice fellow kinda stated on previous posts)
yah... they haven't even added sound animals in that touch bar, what a shame // otherwise maybe I would be buying one