Meh, modest improvement in speed and that's about it. If they put a 120hz display in it then ti would be a game changer. I know they aren't going to do that but that's really the only thing that could generate some excitement from this for me.
Think it'd shorten battery life which is more relevant at that price point.I know its a "pro" feature, but only thing I want to see on the air is a 120hz display. The competition all have it, why are you resisting, Timmy?
I currently have a 2021 MacBook Pro 14” M1 Pro base model…would this new m4 air be more powerful in comparison?
with your logic then the M 5 will be long in the tooth before the MBP models come out. You’re just being ridiculous.It’s really not, especially when the M5 is already in production and we have a strong chance of seeing new products packing it as early as May/June.
Also: the M4 iPad Pro was announced on May 7th. Today was March 3rd. That’s 4 days more than 2 months, not three.
And if it meant getting the brand new M5 instead of a close to a year old M4 while the rest of the Mac lineup gets bumped to the M5, I’d rather wait a couple months.
But hey, Apple gonna Apple.
expensive because of tariff wars about to kick in... reality suddenly about to become very real to consumers and companies. ;(Expensive because Tim Apple wants more money in his pocket. 😂😂
While I totally agree with you, I do think they can convince people to go over to MacOS if they’d update the displays. So while a Mac buyer won’t go to Linux/Windows because of the lack of a decent refresh rate, there are loads of Linux/Windows users who’d buy a Mac if only they had a more current tech display.Think it'd shorten battery life which is more relevant at that price point.
Plus it's something many (maybe most) entry-level Mac user haven't even heard about. Those who have may want to spend more to get it. I don't think many Mac buyer have thought "I'll pick a PC instead, it's cheaper to get a 120hz display".
I'll be honest though, the selection of "luxury" features that Apple puts in their cheapest products has always been a mystery to me. Sometimes they're years beyond the competition, sometimes they're years behind.
Have you ever gone to a store and looked at the displays? I don’t get it. I look at the displays on apple products and compare to windows machines and find the display on apple to be very good. I think a lot of it is internet hype that Apple displays are crap. Just because they are not oled doesn’t mean they are garbage.While I totally agree with you, I do think they can convince people to go over to MacOS if they’d update the displays. So while a Mac buyer won’t go to Linux/Windows because of the lack of a decent refresh rate, there are loads of Linux/Windows users who’d buy a Mac if only they had a more current tech display.
But of course market share isn’t what Apple is interested in. They do really well by having huge profit margins and optimized supply chains instead of just selling as much as they can.
So I agree with you and I can see why Apple doesn’t update the displays, but on the other hand there are simply loads and loads of people who won’t consider a Mac because it feels outdated compared to the competition. It’s hard to get excited for a MacBook Air when you go to a store and see it and for half or closer to one third of the price the competitors around it have a much more pleasant display.
Or maybe I’m just projecting. I’ve been waiting for years to get a MacBook. The MacBook Pros look boring as hell and the MBA have a crappy display compared to what I’m used to so it’s literally the only thing holding me back.
I still have hope Apple will update the screens. I’ve already put up my current laptop for sale this morning haha. But I’ll pull the ad if they put in a 60 Hz display in the MBA again, no problem at all.
Well said!It's nice that these incremental improvements are released quietly. It eliminates the need to put on the silly show that comes with each year's iPhone incremental improvements.
Both for me and you, people debating on a specialized Mac blog, it's not easy to put ourselves in regular buyers' shoes... but you have a closer case here.While I totally agree with you, I do think they can convince people to go over to MacOS if they’d update the displays. So while a Mac buyer won’t go to Linux/Windows because of the lack of a decent refresh rate, there are loads of Linux/Windows users who’d buy a Mac if only they had a more current tech display.
But of course market share isn’t what Apple is interested in. They do really well by having huge profit margins and optimized supply chains instead of just selling as much as they can.
So I agree with you and I can see why Apple doesn’t update the displays, but on the other hand there are simply loads and loads of people who won’t consider a Mac because it feels outdated compared to the competition. It’s hard to get excited for a MacBook Air when you go to a store and see it and for half or closer to one third of the price the competitors around it have a much more pleasant display.
Or maybe I’m just projecting. I’ve been waiting for years to get a MacBook. The MacBook Pros look boring as hell and the MBA have a crappy display compared to what I’m used to so it’s literally the only thing holding me back.
I still have hope Apple will update the screens. I’ve already put up my current laptop for sale this morning haha. But I’ll pull the ad if they put in a 60 Hz display in the MBA again, no problem at all.
But forcing the upgrade to a Macbook Pro with 48gb is even more profitable. And it has precedent: while the mac mini m4 pro can have 64gb, the macbook pro m4 pro can't, one has to upgrade to the max chip for that, and not even the base max is enough for that.I'm 99% sure there'll be a 32GB option. It doesn't make sense to have 24GB as the only upgrade option when 16GB is the base. RAM upgrades are enormously profitable for Apple. And the base M4 MacBook Pro does offer 32GB.
Imagine if we get MacBook Air, iPad Air, Airtags and a surprise reveal of a new Airport! (I can see the first two happening given they both have Air in the title and are due updates)Going to 🤣 if it ends up being new AirTags
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I would have thought Apple would be adding this into all their MacBooks and selling it as a $100 upgrade as per the iPads. Sounds like a good way to realise more value from the chip.My assumption is that Apple will not do that until they can directly integrate the modem on the SOC, which is currently rumored for 2027.
For now, even adding apples dedicated C1 modem takes up space and will be significantly more power-hungry than a completely integrated one that’s coming later.
I think Apple have realised that launching new M chips in the MBA leads to people buying the cheaper MBA rather than the more expensive MBP and other postponing buying a MBP because they expect the new version soon. By putting the new M chips in the MBP first, they are able to sell the most expensive laptops to the early adopters first.Why even release an M4 MBA at this point? Just release the M5 MBA. The M4 is long in the tooth and the M5 will bring some real improvements for AI and GPU.
I wonder if the launch date was selected so they understood and could make the final pricing decisions based on the tariff situation and March 4th tariff decision date. It wouldn't be a good look if they launched at $1099 and then had to increase the price to $1250 a week or so later.Can Apple realistically maintain this pricing in the face of escalating tariffs? Will they just absorb the new tariffs and take a hit on their profits?
Yes I have and since there are no Apple Stores where I am I can only see the MBAs directly next to the competition.Have you ever gone to a store and looked at the displays? I don’t get it. I look at the displays on apple products and compare to windows machines and find the display on apple to be very good. I think a lot of it is internet hype that Apple displays are crap. Just because they are not oled doesn’t mean they are garbage.
Apple uses displays to differentiate the pro products and air products.
I don't want to pay more for a display on a device that's gonna sit 90% on my desk in clamshell mode. For the 10%, the current display is more than adequate. And you should go into a store, and look around what displays pc notebooks have. You might not buy those, but a lot of people do. When I bought my first macbook after decades of using thinkpads, the mac had the display, but that wasn't the reason at all. Better battery life and better OS was.While I totally agree with you, I do think they can convince people to go over to MacOS if they’d update the displays. So while a Mac buyer won’t go to Linux/Windows because of the lack of a decent refresh rate, there are loads of Linux/Windows users who’d buy a Mac if only they had a more current tech display.
But of course market share isn’t what Apple is interested in. They do really well by having huge profit margins and optimized supply chains instead of just selling as much as they can.
So I agree with you and I can see why Apple doesn’t update the displays, but on the other hand there are simply loads and loads of people who won’t consider a Mac because it feels outdated compared to the competition. It’s hard to get excited for a MacBook Air when you go to a store and see it and for half or closer to one third of the price the competitors around it have a much more pleasant display.
Or maybe I’m just projecting. I’ve been waiting for years to get a MacBook. The MacBook Pros look boring as hell and the MBA have a crappy display compared to what I’m used to so it’s literally the only thing holding me back.
I still have hope Apple will update the screens. I’ve already put up my current laptop for sale this morning haha. But I’ll pull the ad if they put in a 60 Hz display in the MBA again, no problem at all.
LOL, I can tell the different between the refresh rates depending on what I do (comparing my M3 MBA and my M1 Pro 14" MBP. I can also tell the different between a 4K 27" monitor and a 5K 27" monitor and am perplexed others don't whenever I see someone recommend a 4K 27" monitor. Although I will admit that at the distance I typically like to watch TV from I can't really tell the difference between 1080p and 4K. So go figure (I'm mid 50s BTW and have had historically bad eyesight - many surgeries and still now have to wear glasses again in some cases).I do wonder how old you are if you say you can’t see the difference between 120 Hz and 60 Hz though…
well then clearly you haven't heard the latest rumors from Gruber and Ming-Chi Kuo about the biggest innovation from Apple this year (and maybe since Apple Silicon)... Tim is gonna make a leap... from "we think you're going to love it" to "We think you're not gonna have much of a choice"...Tim took the excitement out of product releases now too.
Just a short vid & website update & some random ad w bad music & we think you're going to love it.
Age has nothing to do with it. I have 20-20 vision. I’m not a display snob. Either is fine. I can see the lower nit count of MBA as a bigger problem than the speed of the display. I have a MBP that is too big to lug around. 16”, when I bought didn’t need portability, but now I do and will get the 13” MBA.I do wonder how old you are if you say you can’t see the difference between 120 Hz and 60 Hz though…
On the flip side, why would you throw a big launch event for a spec bump?Tim took the excitement out of product releases now too.
Just a short vid & website update & some random ad w bad music & we think you're going to love it.