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15" Air is the perfect laptop for me. I don't need the power of the Pro but I need a large screen.

Dreading to see the price though! If I were buying a MacBook Air today it would be ~£1700. I'm expecting a similar spec 15" Air to cost about £2,200-2,500 and thaaat is why I probably won't bother buying it. "Might as well just get a Pro!"
Yeah I feel that’s what’s going to happen. I think the base model will be a nice Bridge in the line but specc’ing this 15" with 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD will bring it above or on par with the 14" MBP.
 
There's huge demand for a thin and light MacBook with a larger screen.

It will be an instant hit although probably worth holding out for the M3 variant as M2 is nothing more than a stop-gap release. Depends how urgent peoples needs are for such a machine....
I agree. This would sooo be my ideal laptop, for weight and size. And indeed if it is M3 with new 3nm chips, a long term buy this could really be for my needs! (So much so that even just knowing it might eventually come, I will probably buy an old M1 Air to get by till next year and sell it, rather than get an M2 now. Curses these rumours! )
 
Does the Air line usually support only one external monitor? I considered to buy one few years ago but the screen and resolutions were too small.
The current Air only supports one external display. The M1 Pro/Max/Ultra and the M2 variants support more external monitors. The old Airs did support more than one monitor but in the current lineup Apple seems to have decided that multiple monitors is something that "pros" need a not consumers.

There are a lot of people here who wish for multiple monitors for the Air and maybe that will come eventually but, for now, you are limited to one.
 
Hey! No throttling doing normal tasks.

I'm a UX Designer and use it as my only computer.

The ONLY time it throttles is when I am running several high-demanding tasks concurrently, like when I'm running both my Air screen and 4K monitor, video conferencing with my friends on Discord, running a 3D game on Parallels desktop, running Figma in the background, and maybe watching a live sports game on Safari all at the same time. But that is about 2% of my use case and it still handles it just fine, I just do occasionally notice memory pressure and slight stutters here and there. I have the 8-core GPU, 16 GBs of RAM, and 512 GB storage.
Bravo you master multi-tasker :oops:
 
Thanks for that. I would say that's pushing the machine pretty hard. I can't see myself pushing it that hard so its good to know if for some reason I decide I need a new laptop now that the M2 Air will be a great choice. I'd probably go 8gb RAM and 1tb storage.

I guess some of the freakout by youtube personalities over throttling is overblown.
YouTube reviewers tend to review laptops using their workflows which are production video processing and they tend to ding any machine that isn't what they would use in daily production work. Also, faux outrage drives traffic. Reasoned and moderate takes on subtle differences are not their stock in trade.
 
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I believe the MacBook lineup should look like this:

12” and 13.6” fanless MacBook Air

15.x” MacBook or MacBook Studio - single fan, M2 or M2 Pro

And of course, 14 and 16 MBP’s
What if the 15" had an M3/M3Pro and was fanless?

I know the timing is probably not favorable to this but fanlessness is a good feature and an M3 die shrink might run cool enough to allow a Pro variant without fans.
 
Youtube is a weird combination of QVC and an outrage news channel.

The Youtubers who get free early test units from companies like Apple do surface-level basic reviews that are more like QVC ads because they just consist of flashy shots of the product and they describe the specs of the machine. The Youtubers that don't get free stuff go so in-depth to a point where they find some weird niche flaw that nobody in their right mind would ever notice it, but they make their money with those over the top, fake headlines of how the MacBook Air throttles if you run benchmarks on it for 5 hours straight in a 120 degree room and how Apple should be absolutely ashamed of itself because of it.

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That may be one of the best discriptions of tech YouTube "personalities" I've ever heard.
 
Ready to sell my 2019 MacBook Pro with Touch Bar the day this is released. Hopefully battery life will be improved.
For sure. I love that form factor but the thermals and battery on that model suck. The 15” MBA will be a huge improvement and the perfect successor to the 15-16” Intel MBP.
 
The current Air only supports one external display. The M1 Pro/Max/Ultra and the M2 variants support more external monitors. The old Airs did support more than one monitor but in the current lineup Apple seems to have decided that multiple monitors is something that "pros" need a not consumers.

There are a lot of people here who wish for multiple monitors for the Air and maybe that will come eventually but, for now, you are limited to one.

I bought a 13" M1 MBA from Apple refurb, and at times wished I had a larger screen and could run two external monitors even though I thought lugging around a 16" MacBook was undesirable & unwieldy....

Buying a $500 bare bones M1 Mac mini solved that problem quite beautifully, and at less cost than selling & trading up. :). Highly recommended "solution" for those wanting more monitor real estate but not a larger MacBook to lug around!

 
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I'd be curious to hear what all of you wanting a lighter machine actually speculate the weight difference would be versus a 16" MBP? Considering the 2022 Air at 2.7lbs isn't exactly significantly lighter than a 13" 2022 Pro at 3lbs, I'm wondering if the difference in weight will be as back saving as you are hoping it would be?

Unless of course you are one of those hardcore backpackers that shave down toothbrush handles in an attempt to save as many ounces off your pack as possible.
 
This makes me wonder whether the 13” MacBook Pro will last long in Apple’s lineup. Following the eventual discontinuation of the M1 MacBook Air, it will be the only MacBook that hasn’t been redesigned since the Apple Silicon transition. Overall, it’s the same exact design that the 13” Pro has had since 2016.

The question becomes whether Apple is content with a consumer laptop line (the Air) and a pro laptop line (the Pro) in two sizes, or whether they want to maintain a third category. This can take the form of an ultralight, in the same vein as the 2015 MacBook, or an updated 13” MacBook Pro that sits somewhere in the middle. It’s a choice between keeping it simple (as Steve Jobs’ consumer/pro desktop/laptop graph called for) or creating a laptop for every type of consumer.
I can’t imagine it will be around much longer. I’m shocked it even got the M2 upgrade. It’s the most pointless product in the current lineup and is about to become even more so.
 
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Given the increased screen size, what will be the different between a 15" MacBook Air and a 16" MacBook Pro besides a slightly smaller screen? Less ports? Thinner?
I'd be pleasantly surprised if they put more than two ports + MagSafe on it. Lots of ports are basically now a high-end feature on Apple's line.

I'd be curious to hear what all of you wanting a lighter machine actually speculate the weight difference would be versus a 16" MBP? Considering the 2022 Air at 2.7lbs isn't exactly significantly lighter than a 13" 2022 Pro at 3lbs, I'm wondering if the difference in weight will be as back saving as you are hoping it would be?

Unless of course you are one of those hardcore backpackers that shave down toothbrush handles in an attempt to save as many ounces off your pack as possible.

I don't think the point of comparison is the 13" Pro, it's the 14" Pro, which is substantially heavier. And regardless, there are people who just want a larger screen, and don't need the added performance and cost, let alone weight.
 
Given the increased screen size, what will be the different between a 15" MacBook Air and a 16" MacBook Pro besides a slightly smaller screen? Less ports? Thinner?
Pricing.

Arguably one of the most important factors that are keeping people from buying MacBooks.
 
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Pricing.

Arguably one of the most important factors that's keeping people from buying MacBooks.
Yes. Just want to see a large screened MacBook not locked behind insane specs are pricing. This is why I hope they keep the base as just a 13 with a 15 screen, and then have tiers for better specs and screen etc...
 
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Why is it a "dream" machine? Because it will be cheaper than the 16" MBP? If you've been dreaming about it this long surely you could have saved up for one by now.
Dream machine means that it fits my needs for a very long time and was not available … I am already a prod owner of a MBP 14 but not only I don’t need that much power that pro screen but I don’t like the weight and the bulky feeling of owning one of my old machine
 
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The design and engineering are almost certainly complete for this. All that remains is for Apple to figure out how to apply the cripple hammer to this product in some novel way.

/s yes. but to be fair, there has been a bit of track record of regression lately.
 
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Dream machine means that it fits my needs for a very long time and was not available … I am already a prod owner of a MBP 14 but not only I don’t need that much power that pro screen but I don’t like the weight and the bulky feeling of owning one of my old machine
Hate to break it to you but, the 15" MBA is not going to be any lighter than the 14" MBP.
 
We get it … it’s coming and we can’t wait as this is a dream machine for me ever since the first MBA was released … but hopefully with more than 2 usb port …
i rather not have the 3rd port, that makes life to easy!
and
sometimes i can't pop the watch cord in, which makes look foolish to my cats
if there was a 3rd USB slot, my cats would think I'm a total idiot,
until i feed them foods!
 
I don't see much point of a 15" air. Why?

Apple discontinued the 15" Macbook Pro ( for a 16" version), now there's going to be a 15" Air?
I agree I don’t think we will see a 15” Air. But who knows it’s Apple 😂
 
Given the increased screen size, what will be the different between a 15" MacBook Air and a 16" MacBook Pro besides a slightly smaller screen? Less ports? Thinner?
I doubt Macbook Air 15 will come with pro/max Soc, high unified memory/BW. It will probably come without a fan, not for sustained loads, max 24/32 Gb memory. I would be surprised if Air will have the same screen as 16, just a bigger Air 13" screen. It will fit right in the middle between 14inch and a 13 inch Macbook Air. The 13 " pro is odd man out if Apple releases a 15" Air.
 
I doubt Macbook Air 15 will come with pro/max Soc, high unified memory/BW. It will probably come without a fan, not for sustained loads, max 24/32 Gb memory. I would be surprised if Air will have the same screen as 16, just a bigger Air 13" screen. It will fit right in the middle between 14inch and a 13 inch Macbook Air. The 13 " pro is odd man out if Apple releases a 15" Air.
It will be identical in specs to the 13" air, with a 15" display.
 
What if the 15" had an M3/M3Pro and was fanless?

I know the timing is probably not favorable to this but fanlessness is a good feature and an M3 die shrink might run cool enough to allow a Pro variant without fans.
I think that there’s going to continue to be a need for a fan. I think they will continue to build chips that are physically the same size, with more packed into the same space.

I think M3 will be able to be fanless, but will benefit from fans in the iMac, Mac mini, and what is currently the M2 MBP 13.3” with a fan.

I think Pro onward won’t ever be able to be fanless in the foreseeable future.

As always, who knows what Apple has in the pipeline. They may have a passive cooling method or something in development
 
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