Waterfield makes cases specifically for the 12" MacBook. These aren't just re-labelled 11" cases.
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Yes.. that's what I was telling this jackass. He seems to "know" that they are selling 12" rMB cases that are rebranded from the 11" MBA.
I doubt it for two reasons: 1) we have seen on THIS FORUM how well the 12" rMB fits in a couple cases from Waterfield already and 2) even IF they don't have the rMB for a fitting, the specs on size is all there. Because they make their cases to order, it's idiotic to think that they wouldn't just take the new spec dimensions and make a case from it.
Pretty much a person with a 2nd grade education could figure this out. And if he had some inside knowledge or a know of some evidence of rMB cases that didn't fit properly (because we've already seen with other 11" cases that they have a lot of extra room in the horizontal dimension), he would point to it.
Honestly, some people come in this forum guns blazing without any evidence to back up their assertions.
Why don't you enlighten us as to the perfect MacBook fit. Use the case I posted. Tell me how it would be different.
I don't want to use that case. The material clearly extends 0.5-1.0 inches beyond the macbook's edge. Cases aren't designed that way. Additionally, with the fabric sewn the way it is at the seams, it makes the case look bigger. Plus it's just too thick. It looks like the case ate the macbook and is smothering it. Not a good look. Not the right fit. I don't have any interest in buying one.
Um, yes they do. Many, in fact.
Where are you getting your nonsense from? I'm getting my facts straight from their website, where they list products for the 12" MacBook, products which would be impossible to fit an 11" MacBook Air in!
He has just made statements without any evidence and refuses to address the arguments of others.
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Clearly you DONT own both products, nor any of the "custom" cases from Waterfield or you'd not say that.
I have about 7 cases for the 11" macbook air, and ALL of them will fit my 12" macbook. And I own 3 "custom 12 inch macbook cases" and 1 of which is from Waterfield, and it's most definitely NOT designed for the 12" macbook, it's designed for the 11" air, they just rely on suckers like you to see it identified as being for the 12" macbook not realizing it's just a recycled design from the 11" air. And people like you buy into it and blindly defend the practice.
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I OWN the "custom 12" macbook suede sleeve" they claim is for the Macbook 12" ... do you? Because if you did you wouldn't say I'm making statements without evidence.
Clearly you're BLIND. You should LOOK at my post history on this subject, where you'll find NUMEROUS posts where I have posted pictures of EXACTLY what Waterfield sold and why it's junk from the Air that they're passing off as for the Macbook.
My guess is you don't have any of their cases for the 12" macbook, and most definitely don't have the 12" macbook if you do have their case for it. Nobody with both would defend them.
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Tell ya what. IF you even have a Macbook, you order the Suede Waterfield Sleeve for the Macbook, and if you get it and think it fits, I'll eat my words. But you won't order it because you know I'm right, and anyone who can see my pics (had you bothered to look back at the photos I posted - even though you keep saying I've provided no evidence it's just a re-used 11" air case) knows the reality.
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I have the outback solo case ordered recently and I haven't received my macbook yet, but when I have both, i'll post pictures of the case with both MB and MBA to show the difference. They don't even make that case for the 11" MBA so that case can't be rehashed.
My problem is that you make such sweeping statements and you basically have 1 crappy sleeve that you ordered from them. Did you contact them to return it since it wasn't a good fit?
The person who ordered the Outback sleeve seems pretty happy with theirs and it's secure fit.
I won't order that sleeve because I don't want it, I want a bag to carry the MB in. But I wouldn't order that particular sleeve because of what you wrote. That said, you go from a review of a single sleeve to make sweeping generalizations that all sleeve/bag manufacturers are just rehashing 11" MBA cases and passing them off as 12" MB cases. That's the problem I have.
And if you did look at my past posts, you'd see that I respond with specific point-by-point arguments like I did here.
Below are just as sample of your previous posts with no argument or evidence. Every post below is a complete post and not edited in any way:
Above in response to you asking to post a picture that you asked for. Clearly looks to be less than an inch overhang. Very few sleeves put the computer right at the very edge of the sleeve.
Even if that particular sleeve was originally made for the MBA, you make sweeping generalizations based on a single case for which you have no real evidence. If you had both the sleeve sold for the MBA and the MB side by side and show no difference, then I'd believe you for that particular case, no others.
QUOTE=shenan1982;21207228]I was referring only to Waterfield. Re-read the topic context.
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Not a super fan, but my Crumpler FUG works so well in comparison... I'd have to see the Tom Bihn one in person, because I assume the pictures of the big fat macbook don't do it justice since it states only 6 mm neoprene, which clearly isn't what's pictured. LOL[/QUOTE]
You weren't only referring to waterfield, you were also referring to the person who bought that felt sleeve you feel is too thick and made for the MBA.
Here come the CAPS again.
And again.
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They do. I had/have one of their sleeve cases as well as one of the ultrasuede sleeves. Both were a perfect and perfectly tight fit on the MacBook. In fact, since I returned the MacBook but used the sleeve case, if someone wants to buy it, I could make them a nice deal.
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I actually have the sleeve case and the ultrasuede sleeve. I don't need to read the website: they are a perfect fit.
They do. I had/have one of their sleeve cases as well as one of the ultrasuede sleeves. Both were a perfect and perfectly tight fit on the MacBook. In fact, since I returned the MacBook but used the sleeve case, if someone wants to buy it, I could make them a nice deal.
If you say so. Guess "perfect" is relative.
No they are not. I have one. It is custom for the rMB. My 11" air is too big for it.
They do. I had/have one of their sleeve cases as well as one of the ultrasuede sleeves. Both were a perfect and perfectly tight fit on the MacBook. In fact, since I returned the MacBook but used the sleeve case, if someone wants to buy it, I could make them a nice deal.
do they have the foam insert glued in the bottom?
New Macbook Case Thread
These are photos of sfbags outback case. The top is the 11" and the bottom is the 12" MacBook. The second pic is the 12" MacBook case sitting on the 11". The last pic is the 12" MacBook in the case. The 11" is too big for the 12" MacBook sleeve. If you don't call that custom, what do you call it?
These are photos of sfbags outback case. The top is the 11" and the bottom is the 12" MacBook. The second pic is the 12" MacBook case sitting on the 11". The last pic is the 12" MacBook in the case. The 11" is too big for the 12" MacBook sleeve. If you don't call that custom, what do you call it?
Your photos demonstrate my point precisely. It's the same case. One is more snug, one is not. Point made. The MB is swimming in that thing, jeez.
I'll take better pics in the morning. Its a perfect, tight fit. I don't think you have seen their cases in person. They are thick and very high quality.
It fits my rMB the same way the 11" case fits my 11" air.
Visually you think there is space on the top and bottom, but there is not.
You can clearly see they are different heights and widths.
Tired of these games.... here are some photos I just took:
Pic A - I flipped the case inside out so you can see exactly what they've done. The 11" macbook Air fits inside it when inside out. Since all the dimensions of the air are very close, what they did was glue a thin strip of foam inside the bottom, to give the case the appearance that it was designed to fit the Macbook 12" ... without the bumper in there, the 12" macbook would slide noticeably deep, and they couldn't get away with selling this case as a 12" Macbook case (see photo D)
Pic B - Close up showing what's holding the silly strip of foam inside the case. A thin strip of glue\double sided tape. How half-baked! I could pull the foam off. Obviously it's not going to last, even if you were ok with this garbage of a product.
Pic C - The foam strip next to the profile of the macbook. Do you REALLY think they had a macbook if they put a strip this thick into the case? No way. So when it's not flipped inside out and it's being used as designed, one side of the case has this big lump in it, that's thicker than the laptop and looks dreadful.
Pic D - I wanted to illustrate how this case was NOT designed for the Macbook 12", and just how oversized it is (perfect for a Macbook Air 11" as it was designed). Without the "bumper" of the strip of gaudy foam in it, the laptop would sink all the way into the case, making it obvious the case wasn't designed for this laptop.
As you can clearly see they took a 11" Air case, glued a strip of foam into it, and are marketing and selling it as a custom designed Macbook 12" case. Why people in this thread are sticking up for these guys is beyond me. YES, they have good customer service. YES they are nice people, and YES, some of their products are nice... but does that win them the ability to sucker people into thinking they're getting a case custom-fit to their laptop? NO NO NO!
I've had many laptops and have always bought Waterfield\SFBags Suede sleeves, and have always been happy because they're perfect fits... the laptop slides in, and it's a glove for it. It doesn't provide any real protection except from dust, but that's okay.
I hope this will finally provide the "evidence" someone on here has been asking for that this sleeve was NOT designed for the 12" Macbook. If it were designed for the Macbook, it wouldn't have a chunk of rubber in it to make it fit, it'd be cut to fit the macbook just like every other sleeve they make. My guess is in the future they'll eventually update the design, but this was the half-baked solution they thought of to capture sales since many makers haven't come out with sleeves yet. Pretty shady way to run a business if you ask me. Turned me off from EVER buying ANYTHING from SFBAGS again in the future.
Pic A - I flipped the case inside out so you can see exactly what they've done. The 11" macbook Air fits inside it when inside out. Since all the dimensions of the air are very close, what they did was glue a thin strip of foam inside the bottom, to give the case the appearance that it was designed to fit the Macbook 12" ... without the bumper in there, the 12" macbook would slide noticeably deep, and they couldn't get away with selling this case as a 12" Macbook case (see photo D)
Pic B - Close up showing what's holding the silly strip of foam inside the case. A thin strip of glue\double sided tape. How half-baked! I could pull the foam off. Obviously it's not going to last, even if you were ok with this garbage of a product.
Pic C - The foam strip next to the profile of the macbook. Do you REALLY think they had a macbook if they put a strip this thick into the case? No way. So when it's not flipped inside out and it's being used as designed, one side of the case has this big lump in it, that's thicker than the laptop and looks dreadful.
Pic D - I wanted to illustrate how this case was NOT designed for the Macbook 12", and just how oversized it is (perfect for a Macbook Air 11" as it was designed). Without the "bumper" of the strip of gaudy foam in it, the laptop would sink all the way into the case, making it obvious the case wasn't designed for this laptop.
As you can clearly see they took a 11" Air case, glued a strip of foam into it, and are marketing and selling it as a custom designed Macbook 12" case. Why people in this thread are sticking up for these guys is beyond me. YES, they have good customer service. YES they are nice people, and YES, some of their products are nice... but does that win them the ability to sucker people into thinking they're getting a case custom-fit to their laptop? NO NO NO!
I've had many laptops and have always bought Waterfield\SFBags Suede sleeves, and have always been happy because they're perfect fits... the laptop slides in, and it's a glove for it. It doesn't provide any real protection except from dust, but that's okay.
I hope this will finally provide the "evidence" someone on here has been asking for that this sleeve was NOT designed for the 12" Macbook. If it were designed for the Macbook, it wouldn't have a chunk of rubber in it to make it fit, it'd be cut to fit the macbook just like every other sleeve they make. My guess is in the future they'll eventually update the design, but this was the half-baked solution they thought of to capture sales since many makers haven't come out with sleeves yet. Pretty shady way to run a business if you ask me. Turned me off from EVER buying ANYTHING from SFBAGS again in the future.
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I don't think that people are questioning your judgement as to the sleeve you ordered, but you use your specific case (n=1) to make assumptions not only about the entire sfbags catalogue of sleeves/cases, but even to any maker of sleeves/cases available today.
I can see how the cheap quality of your sleeve would piss you off... it would piss me off too, but you're generalized statements are contrary to what others on here have experienced with different cases. And just how you don't like other people questioning your experience, you've been doing much the same to everyone else on here.
I think I can only count a single comment that may have questioned your judgement on your particular sleeve, but I can point to half a dozen of your own snarky comments that have contradicted the positive experiences others are having with the fit of their cases.
I'm sure you don't talk to people like this in real life, unless you are constantly getting slapped upside the head.
That's the reverse, and not relevant to the topic at hand. I too have tried multiple 11" Air cases, and they all fit reasonably well.
I bolded a part here for later fun!
Um, nope. In fact I own that very case.
Wrong again.
Funny. You're the one flying off the handle here. See the bolded part above.
There is no possible way the 11" MacBook Air would fit into this case, which I have, because the 12" MacBook fits it perfectly.
FYI, I bought the horizontal version. That means the width of the MacBook, which is shorter than the width of the 11" Air, is the limiting factor. The 11" Air can't fit in it, because the 12" MacBook fits it exactly!
The open end overhangs the MacBook (which is longer in that dimension than the 11" Air). If you have the vertical version, you are mistaking a deliberate bit of overhang for something designed for a wider case.
You are also mistaking the foam insert (which all of the suede sleeves I've ever bought from them have) for a plug meant to fill in space, when it's obviously there for protection. As noted on their site, "The bottom has additional neoprene for additional protection."
So the moral of the story is you DON'T have the case I have, after all that you admit you have the horizontal case. That's NOT the case I have and NOT the case pictured, but hey, blindly defend Waterfield. Sounds like an employee to me.
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Not saying it's the norm, in fact it's NOT the norm, as I've bought a suede sleeve from them for the last 5 or so laptops I've own. They've never half-baked anything, which is why I was so shocked when I got this one.
I guess they're a business and rely on customers like the other guy who wants to argue and blindly support them. The moment you blindly support a company without taking issue with something like this is the moment the company realizes they don't have to care, and does this.
Perfect is not relative in the case of their sleeve case and ultra suede sleeve. I have both cases and can verify a tight, perfect fit.
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No, they do not.
Obviously you don't have both cases. Let's see pictures of them BOTH then. You first said you had the one I had, then you said you have the horizontal one. Which is it? Make up your mind.
And an email to Waterfield verified that in fact they do have the foam strip in them. They call it for "protection"
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I verified that your comment is WRONG with PICTURES. Do I need to post a RECEIPT too? LOL