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New Macbook in 2018?
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That won’t be used in the new MacBook Pros. None of the candidate chips for the new MBP support 32 GB.
They're using different chips to U series? Why is that.
Nevermind:
https://www.slashgear.com/intels-first-cannon-lake-10nm-processor-revealed-16530969/
"Last month, Intel conceded that, again, its roadmap was more ambitious than it could actually deliver on. Rather than a full line-up of Cannon Lake processors, it admitted, there would be just one. “Intel is currently shipping low-volume 10 nm product and now expects 10 nm volume production to shift to 2019,” the company said at the time, though declined to say where it was shipping and who its hardware partner might be."
So might just be that i3 support LPDDR4. In that case Apple may as well wait until spring next year to refresh MBP.
Nevermind:
https://www.slashgear.com/intels-first-cannon-lake-10nm-processor-revealed-16530969/
"Last month, Intel conceded that, again, its roadmap was more ambitious than it could actually deliver on. Rather than a full line-up of Cannon Lake processors, it admitted, there would be just one. “Intel is currently shipping low-volume 10 nm product and now expects 10 nm volume production to shift to 2019,” the company said at the time, though declined to say where it was shipping and who its hardware partner might be."
So might just be that i3 support LPDDR4. In that case Apple may as well wait until spring next year to refresh MBP.
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Is it worth the wait? Really hope we get an update around October or earlier.
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Intel has various different tech generations of chips for U series this year. Most of them do not support 32 GB.
So yeah, it's just that i3 that supports LPDDR4x. Doesn't mean they should wait though. The 8th gen offers more cores, and a significant increase in multi-core performance at the same power tiers.
They can just upgrade the machines again whenever the new chipsets are out with 32 GB support.
Personally, I'd wait, but it's not as compelling a wait as it is with the MacBook Pros or iMacs.
I plan too, I wonder if we will get a simple press release or if they will be announced during an event, a press release for this month would be great
The MacBook Pro’s are rumoured to be getting quad core for the 13” if I’ve read some articles correctly.
Is that faster? If I look up graphics performance on the 2017 MB i7 - it looks better!:
https://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?D=I...75+CPU+with+HD+Graphics+615&testgroup=overall
This has just leaked, interesting to see if this is for the 13” MacBook Pro or the 15”
https://www.cultofmac.com/559433/2018-macbook-pro-performance-specifications-coffee-lake/
https://www.cultofmac.com/559433/2018-macbook-pro-performance-specifications-coffee-lake/
"It would be nice if the 2018 MacBook Pro models included a keyboard without the problems plaguing their predecessors, but that might be too much to hope for."
I chuckled at that. How very true.
Does anyone know if whatever the next-gen CPU suitable for Macbook (Amber Lake?) is worth waiting for? I mean I'm kinda looking for a super portable laptop right now for my personal use, and I'm also considering Macbook 2017 if the change is not expected to be grandeur. My carbon X1 is for work, so I cannot easily take it with me during my personal trip..
What are the expected processors from Intel to make it to the 2018 MacBook? Amber Lake Y? They were announced on June at Computex so not sure if they will arrive on time but they don't seem to have any other chips suitable.
M3-8114Y might be the core m3 offering, any thoughts on the i5 and i7? The M3-8114Y seems like a huge step back compared to the Kaby Lake version.
M3-8114Y might be the core m3 offering, any thoughts on the i5 and i7? The M3-8114Y seems like a huge step back compared to the Kaby Lake version.
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The most significant thing to wait for is probability they will integrate either USB 3.1 gen 2 or even Thunderbolt 3 controller into the CPU (they promised to do it with 10mm Cannonlake but who knows if they move this promise to Amber Lake or not) which will allow to provide either two USB 3.1 gen 1 ports (currently only one) or most likely one USB 3.1 gen 2 port (10 Gbps vs current 5 Gbps) or even better - one Thunderbolt 3 port (40 Gbps vs current 5 Gbps). Think how much you need it. IMHO this is the deciding factor.
Obviously the performance of the CPU will likely be better as well but it's always better, with any upgrade. There will likely not be a switch from 2 cores to 4 cores. So this does not look like a deciding factor.
Also they might offer 1TB SSD but very few people need it so I doubt it'll be a deciding factor for you. For me it is (I want to move from MBP15 to MB12 for size considerations but changing from four Thunderbolt 3 ports and 2TB SSD to one USB 3.1 gen 1 and 512GB SSD is PITA).
IMHO.
Give me 16 GB and a 1 TB SSD, and I'm moving over to the Macbook as my main machine.
New laptops are a-comin'!
Consomac: De nouveaux iPad et Mac portables en approche
Apple s'apprête donc à commercialiser cinq modèles d'ordinateurs portables, qui seront numérotés A1931, A1932, A1988, A1989 et A1990. Ces numéros semblent désigner deux gammes distinctes : les trois dernières références correspondent sans grand doute au MacBook Pro (13,3" sans Touch Bar, 13,3" avec Touch Bar, et 15,4"), et les deux premières à une gamme composée de deux modèles, ce qui ne correspond ni au MacBook 12" ni au MacBook Air dans leurs formes actuelles. Plusieurs rumeurs ont anticipé l'arrivée d'un nouveau modèle de portable d'entrée de gamme qui pourrait succéder avantageusement au MacBook Air et au MacBook 12": peut-être venons-nous de le découvrir.
Google Translate: New iPad and Mac laptops on the way
Apple is preparing to market five models of laptops, which will be numbered A1931, A1932, A1988, A1989 and A1990.These numbers seem to indicate two distinct ranges: the last three references are without a doubt the MacBook Pro (13.3" without Touch Bar, 13.3" with Touch Bar, and 15.4"), and the first two to a range made of two models, which does not correspond to the MacBook 12 "or MacBook Air in their current form. Several rumors have anticipated the arrival of a new model of entry-level laptop that could advantageously succeed the MacBook Air and MacBook 12": perhaps we have just discovered.
Consomac: De nouveaux iPad et Mac portables en approche
Apple s'apprête donc à commercialiser cinq modèles d'ordinateurs portables, qui seront numérotés A1931, A1932, A1988, A1989 et A1990. Ces numéros semblent désigner deux gammes distinctes : les trois dernières références correspondent sans grand doute au MacBook Pro (13,3" sans Touch Bar, 13,3" avec Touch Bar, et 15,4"), et les deux premières à une gamme composée de deux modèles, ce qui ne correspond ni au MacBook 12" ni au MacBook Air dans leurs formes actuelles. Plusieurs rumeurs ont anticipé l'arrivée d'un nouveau modèle de portable d'entrée de gamme qui pourrait succéder avantageusement au MacBook Air et au MacBook 12": peut-être venons-nous de le découvrir.
Google Translate: New iPad and Mac laptops on the way
Apple is preparing to market five models of laptops, which will be numbered A1931, A1932, A1988, A1989 and A1990.These numbers seem to indicate two distinct ranges: the last three references are without a doubt the MacBook Pro (13.3" without Touch Bar, 13.3" with Touch Bar, and 15.4"), and the first two to a range made of two models, which does not correspond to the MacBook 12 "or MacBook Air in their current form. Several rumors have anticipated the arrival of a new model of entry-level laptop that could advantageously succeed the MacBook Air and MacBook 12": perhaps we have just discovered.
New MacBook Pros are certain, it seems, but the MacBook is uncertain, still.
Here's to hoping. It would be possible to get heavily improved specs on a MacBook in September-or-so. I'm not sure when those new Intel CPUs are getting released, but they could be ANY DAY; that might be the only thing holding back a new MacBook release at this time.
Thanks for all the advices!. Glad I waited!. Hopefully, this update brings much needed functionality update...
Around October or earlier maybe? They could even do a press release this month, it’s been known to happen in July before. No mention of the MacBook tho as said in that report the 1st two are MacBook Pros. I wonder why no mention of the MacBook?
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MacBook
MacBook Pro no TB
MacBook Pro TB 13
MacBook Pro TB 15
Mac mini!
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That's some good improvements over Kaby Lake. Can't wait to see what amber lake can do.
MacBook Pro no TB
MacBook Pro TB 13
MacBook Pro TB 15
Mac mini!
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That's some good improvements over Kaby Lake. Can't wait to see what amber lake can do.
I have base model MacBook 2015. I use it mostly as a laptop for media consumption. Anything processor intensive is done on other computers that I control remotely from the MacBook. How much faster 2017 MacBook (or possible 2018 upgrade) will feel for my uses? I do have a very fast home network/wifi so that is not a limiting factor. I am itching to update but would like it to be justified. I also don't want to buy I7 MacBook to find that it runs hotter than m3.
I dunno, but I guess it's really a matter of perception. Which 2015 do you have? The 2015 entry level one is certainly usable but after playing with it I just felt like it dragged a bit on complex websites. It was slow enough to be a little bit of a disappointment speed-wise to me even back in 2015. That slowdown doesn't happen anywhere near as often with the 2017 m3.
I suggest when the 2018 comes out to take your laptop in and compare it in-store while surfing. I suspect you'll notice a significant difference, but whether or not that really matters to you is a different question.
Also, even more important to me is the fact that the 2017 keyboard has a significantly better feel.
I have m3 2015 with 256gb ssd. It felt slow originally but became responsive after first MacOS update. But having better keyboard may be worth paying for the upgrade
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I think this is correct. For a while, I had an early 2015 with 8gb and another with 16gb (same CPU, same SSD - see below). I religiously compared actual memory usage and didn't see any real difference.
Interesting, can you share some more details about this?
No real difference in the sense that both were running at x GB out of 8/16 or both were running at x% of the 8/16 GB? What kind of apps were you running? Did you notice a difference in the performance?
Sure.
What apps running? - typically I have dozens of Safari tabs open (sometimes lots more - bad hygiene, I know), Word and/or Excel, Messages, Fantastical, Adobe Acrobat Pro and iTunes. Not a crushing load except that have 40, 60 or more tabs open can really burden both the CPU and memory, depending on what's open.
Both were, as I recall (it was a year ago), using about the same absolute amount of memory, rather than the same percent of fixed memory. So there appeared to be little benefit for me in going from 8gb to 16gb. YMMV, though.
I didn't notice any performance improvements. Again, YMMV.