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New MacBook Pro and 13-Inch 'MacBook' Coming Next Week, iMac and Display Not Ready Yet
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I would be - the MacBook will be on yearly cycle, they won't update it so soon - it's quite obvious they're taking the path of iOS devices and giving people who bought the last one value for money with at least a year between each update, not changing something every 6 months unnecessarily.
I'm willing to bet one pound that at least 50% of people blathering on about Kaby Lake don't even know what it is.
It IS bad. It doesn't make a licking difference whether the computer is half a mm thinner or not. It DOES matter that every time you use it you wish you were using something else.
And yes, the world is full of even worse keyboards. Is that an excuse to make a crappy keyboard when you've made the best keyboards any laptops have for years. The keyboard (and touchpad) have been one of the biggest reasons I've loved Macs. They just work. Not so much in the 12" one. The Magic Keyboard wasn't as bad but it was still bad enough not to want to use it. I'm not going to buy a machine with that. I already work enough with machines I hate on a daily basis because of my work, I don't want to make the rest of it just as bad.
It's the thing that will make your base model Macbook/Pro stop sounding like a jet engine while watching highres video in the future.
The most lacking area of the outdated Macs in this moment isn't the CPU at all. Skylake is more than adequate. The most lacking area is being ignored by most posts in the thread, and it's the GPU. No Pascal, no Polaris and still using shockingly outdated GPUs. If rumors are right, Polaris will be seen in the new Mac updates.
Apple please: Pascal Titan X (or Pascal Quadro, what you prefer) in a new Mac Pro. Please.
its the thing that makes your new mac book a year old the day it comes out
I am not going to wade through this entire thread... what are the chances Airpods will be available?
Okay, whatever. Don't get the MacBook then. Simple.
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A very high chance. They'll either be available straight after the event or on Friday. Can't wait for these.
Will you can save data to iCloud and thats all you need to know or do. Its the Apple way! You can use Apple sharing, because its the only way Apple will allow. Oh wait, you want an iOS device with a little freedom to use how you want. NOT going to happen, which is why buying iPads to replace computers is the dumbest of dumb.
I may be crazy from a severe lack of sleep, or just a bit mental in general
But I have an odd feeling that the Mac Pro as we know it is dead, buried in the desert and a coyote has run off with its dangly man bits for breakfast. Ahem, anyway, I can't shake the feeling that the current Mac Pro will be replaced by, wait for it.........
......The new iMac Pro! A seriously beefed out variant of the iMac with dual Xeon processors and massively powerful dedicated graphics. Best of all, not only will there be user access to upgrade the memory, to a total of 128GB this time round. But there will also be a user accessible dual hard drive bay allowing us to easily upgrade our storage at any time.
The iMac Pro will be redesigned to accommodate these changes. The screen will be chinless and edge-to-edge the main guts will be on the back of the screen as a redesigned mini motherboard housing the CPU's and graphics chipsets and so on. Whereas the hard drives and memory will be contained in the base of the device attached to a small daughter board. Which in turn is connected to the motherboard with a cable which runs internally through the base assembly.
The amount of USB 3 ports will be doubled and there will be an additional 6 USB-C ports. For the first time there is going to be a Lightning port on the iMac Pro, allowing the use of headphones sporting the new all digital interface and.......damn, then I woke up
I hope I'm wrong, but Ive would never approve this and Cook does not have the foresight to approve it. So its never gonna happen.
This is post #1040 on 24th October 2016. That's one post in this thread for every day since the last Mac Pro release!
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I agree if they only kept the Pro as a pro machine and not just a bit bigger version of the Macbook. One toy that can sit on the table and look cute, another for actual work. Now it seems they're just making different sizes of the Macbook. Oh joy.
http://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/
I'd like to say I'm joking, but I think they're may be some truth to that.
"It makes even complex work as natural as touching, swiping, or writing with a pencil."
Could be, if all your work is touching, swiping or writing with a pencil. I struggle to find that many for whom it's true and I think one race found a solution for such people in one of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books.
The last time a macrumors post received this many comments is probably when Steve Jobs passed away. Mac Pro being one of the most recurrent term of the thread. It is a shame the largest, richest company in the world is not listening to its loyal customers, the ones who started it all. People were practically bullied for using macs in the 80's and 90's even though they were the only viable choice for professionals working in graphic design, photography, editing industries to name a few. In the 2000's, now that Apple had reached the top and their products were finally worshiped and envied, out of reach for most due to high prices, there was hope and professionals around the world could trust a reliable company that provided both hardware and software on a regular basis and surpassed most options (Windows PC) in terms of performance. It is now 2016, Jobs is gone, PCs outperform macs for a fraction of the cost and they are built with tomorrow's components, not 5 years old CPU like Apple is trying to shove down professional's throats at a premium. Most of us have jumped neck deep into Apple's ecosystem by now and/or have had to make ugly compromises.
I work mainly on an iMac these days, the most powerful possible one I could buy since the Mac Pro was outdated already when it was time for me to upgrade. But for the real professional tasks I do every day, I have to rely on a PC I built myself, even though it was cheaper then my iMac and is much more powerful. For a lot of software I use, I had to buy licensees in double (OSX and Windows versions). I shouldn't need 2 computers on my desk. Sure I could make the switch to PC entirely and use oulook express, explorer and excel, but I can only withstand using my Windows machine for as little time as possible per session, only when it is necessary for those larger tasks.
Apple, we are disgust. Sure you might have an Mac Pro update announcement on October 27th, but the damage is done, it's too late. What is so hard in upgrading the processor once a year? You don't have to go back to the drawing board for that or manufacture a completely redesigned form factor. It looks like the trash can shape was only an excuse to attempt explaining the outrageous amount of time to product update/refresh took.
Apple, you have succeeded in making me buy your products year after year, even the iPhone 7 recently. You win. You win all the way. I'm trapped in your ecosystem according to the plan, even though I can't use the expensive computers I have bought for years for my daily work. Why do we keep doing this and believing? It's our own fault. As Steve Jobs always a "one more thing", well we always give Apple endless "on more chance". It is sickening how unproductive the situation has become (as I waste precious time writing this post). Apple, this my be your real last chance. Don't **** it up, you owe this to us.
I work mainly on an iMac these days, the most powerful possible one I could buy since the Mac Pro was outdated already when it was time for me to upgrade. But for the real professional tasks I do every day, I have to rely on a PC I built myself, even though it was cheaper then my iMac and is much more powerful. For a lot of software I use, I had to buy licensees in double (OSX and Windows versions). I shouldn't need 2 computers on my desk. Sure I could make the switch to PC entirely and use oulook express, explorer and excel, but I can only withstand using my Windows machine for as little time as possible per session, only when it is necessary for those larger tasks.
Apple, we are disgust. Sure you might have an Mac Pro update announcement on October 27th, but the damage is done, it's too late. What is so hard in upgrading the processor once a year? You don't have to go back to the drawing board for that or manufacture a completely redesigned form factor. It looks like the trash can shape was only an excuse to attempt explaining the outrageous amount of time to product update/refresh took.
Apple, you have succeeded in making me buy your products year after year, even the iPhone 7 recently. You win. You win all the way. I'm trapped in your ecosystem according to the plan, even though I can't use the expensive computers I have bought for years for my daily work. Why do we keep doing this and believing? It's our own fault. As Steve Jobs always a "one more thing", well we always give Apple endless "on more chance". It is sickening how unproductive the situation has become (as I waste precious time writing this post). Apple, this my be your real last chance. Don't **** it up, you owe this to us.
Yea, it'll probably be a moderate $1999 increase to the base model price. Because Apple. I'd rather keep the SD card slot and stick in a JetDrive or something. Or be able to buy my own 2TB SSD for <$1k and stick it in there. Or go the way for example HP Probook 470 works. m.2 boot SSD and when you open the machine there's a slot for an additional 2,5" SATA disk. But of course we can't open the "pro" machines, it's more important to make them as thin as possible because we.. must.. have.. thin.. computers. Even when our "pro" bags are big enough to carry lots of stuff. Then again, now all of that space will be filled with dongles.
I agree if they only kept the Pro as a pro machine and not just a bit bigger version of the Macbook. One toy that can sit on the table and look cute, another for actual work. Now it seems they're just making different sizes of the Macbook. Oh joy.
What is this nonsense? The new rMBP will be exactly as much faster as the new Intel platform allows. No more and no less. What is this, "It's only pro if it never gets any smaller or lighter
" spread throughout this thread? Some people really can't do change it seems.
Both the oled and fingerprint reader would fit nicely in the small macbook. They're toy features for toy machines. They should pull their heads out of their butts and actually come up with a Pro laptop for Pro users. One that Just Works. For a LONG time.
Updating them changes the perception they don't care - which based on this thread is a nontrivial concern. Also besides the processor other things change. The biggest ongoing insult is that Apple charges the exact same no matter how old the technology is. The Mac Mini equivalent now is way less expensive. But, Apple charges the same price through the life of the product. That is absurd and maintains the perception that Apple is screwing computer users.
Thank God I just switched back after a 4 month switch to Android. Now I have a 7+ and really looking forward to these. Disappointed to hear they didn't do better quality audio but the software side sounds great.
What is this nonsense? The new rMBP will be exactly as much faster as the new Intel platform allows. No more and no less. What is this, "It's only pro if it never gets any smaller or lighter
It's not about reducing the size, it's what is being taken off ONLY TO MAKE IT LIGHTER. Lighter and smaller is nice, but by no means critical. Being able to connect, being able to work for extended durations, being able to use your computer without wanting to constantly bang your head on the wall - those things matter hell of a lot more than a machine that's slightly thinner.
ESPECIALLY when there is already Macbook Air. and rMB. You want thin, you've got plenty to choose from. You want powerful, you... oh, you're screwed. Just imagine those people who rely on the connectivity. Stick in all those dongles and then tell me it's smaller than it used to be. Thinner, maybe, but the footprint on your desk is twice the size of the current one - and half of that is stuff that will actually break off if you aren't careful. You call that pro?