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New MacBook Pro and 13-Inch 'MacBook' Coming Next Week, iMac and Display Not Ready Yet
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The last three October keynotes (Oct 23, 2012, Oct 22, 2013 and Oct 16, 2014) all featured iPad updates.
Lmbo, "It's not pro if it has a fingerprint reader. Us pros don't have fingerprints and like to input our passwords manually thankyouverymuch, CRAPPLE". Bizarre not even worth reading, much less responding to, from here in.
This.
I was pretty convinced for a while that Apple might try this. Right now the Intel CPUs are expensive compared to the Axx chips (the Skyelakes are 200-300 USD in 1k? Drops to maybe 100-150USD in Apple quantities - that's a major part of the BOM cost). *But* the only reason Apple has retained a reasonable foothold in the computer market is because they can (with some difficulty, cough, OS X SMB2 sucks, file forks etc) be integrated into a common IT environment and run Windows and Redhat Linux.
The latter two are crucial for most of the SW tools used to create *every single aspect* of the world around you. Architecture programs, database SW, engineering design software - everything.
Going to ARM Axx for the Macbook would be cutting off their nose to spite their face - their potential market share would plummet. No, they already have a Macbook with an ARM - that's called an iPad Pro with some keyboard (I have no use for one).
But I wouldn't be surprised if the MBP becomes more and more niche, the Mac Mini is dropped (I mean they make it less and less useful with each generation). The only reason they tease with a ridiculous out of date Mac Pro is because of a captive audience (huge cost of changing workflow toools).
The is quite true. However, Apple would still want to charge full 2016 prices, as if they were selling the most recent hardware available.. so we may as well get the latest and greatest!
Stop for a second to consider one of the biggest differences between a Macbook Pro and Macbook Air and you may see the light. That is, connectivity. Originally I bought my first Pro simply because I needed to be able to hook up multiple devices to my computer in different locations and being limited to one USB (in the original macbook air) caused problems on a daily basis. The new Air with two USBs and one thunderbolt was slightly better, but considering the ethernet dongle took one of those (unless I used the tb->ethernet) it wasn't such a big improvement.
I've come to appreciate the more powerful processor, the excellent Retina display and the 16GB of memory. I'd love more but that's not happening. At work I've got a TB hub because I'm too lazy to carry things around too much. I hate dongles with a passion. They're always in the wrong place, they get lost and they clutter up my bag - and make life difficult when you need different setups. That's one reason why I've got both the USB and TB versions of the ethernet dongle. I run constantly into situations where I need one or the other to keep enough ports available for other systems.
Those who get excited at this point and start whining about using WIFI might want to get a life and then remember some of us work with networks. I'm not going to start dragging an Airport Express around with me just to be able to connect to different networks.
It'd be easier if I worked in a single location - or even two. I don't. I move from one customer to another and I do need to be able to prepare for different situations and carry all the crap with me at all times so dongles - thanks but no thanks. Only 4 USB-C? Thanks, but that's pretty much half of what I'd like to see even if I was willing to accept using a horde of dongles to hook up whatever analyzers etc I need at different times. I already have to live with the ethernet dongles,the usb-to-rs232 dongles and whatever else to be able to configure different devices. And no, I'm not proposing they'd put rs232 back in Macbook Pro even though it would make my life easier. I'm just not ready to quadruple my amount of dongles just to be able to work.
Even less so if it's got the shallow keyboard. I've no use for it. Still, I believe it's there only when I see the announcement. So at least for a while longer I can dream about buying a new Macbook Pro. I'm still pretty sure the current one will be my last Mac. Too bad.
With regard to the Mac Pro:
Whether they are going to kill it or not, I could see Apple silently lowering the price this Thursday.
That could set the stage for an update around WWDC 2017—along with a price re-increase. It could also set the stage for discontinuing the Mac Pro altogether this spring.
Whether they are going to kill it or not, I could see Apple silently lowering the price this Thursday.
That could set the stage for an update around WWDC 2017—along with a price re-increase. It could also set the stage for discontinuing the Mac Pro altogether this spring.
You need it to work for a long time, since they go 2 years without a significant update. How is it HP and Dell seem to crank out an updated mobile workstation every 9 months or so, but Apple can't be bothered to do it once a year? Arguing that the market isn't there because "mobile is the future" is just bull. Clearly the market is there, as their competitors sell millions of units each quarter to demanding non-tablet Pro users.
What is this nonsense? The new rMBP will be exactly as much faster as the new Intel platform allows. No more and no less. What is this, "It's only pro if it never gets any smaller or lighter
The issue with making thinner / lighter is now the inability to add RAM, replace SSD. If Apple could make the machines thinner and lighter and still accommodate replacable storage and RAM, there would be far less complaints.
I should have added battery too. If my battery dies, I shouldn't have to give up my laptop for a week to the AppleStore while its replaced.
Well if you think these are truly wireless I think it's quite good they sound the same as the EarPods. And yes, the W1 chip looks to be very impressive.
KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has released a new research report outlining his expectations for next Thursday's "Hello Again" event where Apple is expected to make a number of Mac-related announcements.
In line with long-standing rumors, Kuo believes the highlight of the event will be a redesigned MacBook Pro in both 13-inch and 15-inch sizes, adopting an OLED touch bar and Touch ID sensor, USB-C, Thunderbolt 3, and the same butterfly keyboard design introduced on the MacBook in 2015. Kuo also adds several new tidbits to the rumor mix:Beyond the MacBook Pro, Kuo says Apple will also be introducing a "13-inch MacBook," a claim he has shared previously. Rather than being a slightly larger version of the current 12-inch MacBook, however, this is likely to be a MacBook Air, which would align with other rumors claiming that only the 13-inch MacBook Air will be seeing an update with new USB-C ports.
On the desktop side, rumors have indicated that Apple is working on updated iMac models with discrete AMD graphics options, as well as a new standalone external 5K display, but Kuo says those products will not be ready until the first half of next year. It is still possible, however, that Apple could announce them at next week's event.Apple's event is being held at the company's Cupertino campus and kicks off at 10:00 AM Pacific Time on Thursday. MacRumors will have full coverage both here on the site and on our @MacRumorsLive Twitter account, and Apple will be offering a live video stream of the event.
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Any Idea if these will be available on Thursday?
I don't think sound quality is all that high on Apple's priority at this moment. They clearly wanted to attach the pain points of Bluetooth, which are ease of pairing, battery life and range and that's what the W1 chip is designed to address.
You must be wearing Rose(gold) colored glasses.
Jobs brought us all the "Cube". That was basically the fore runner to the current MacPro. A compact form factor desktop market failure.
You might not have been around the boards here for the couple of years of "when is the G5 PowerBook coming" threads.
The one last things were cool. But it's hard to have surprises with this amount of interest from pages such as macrumors. if you want surprises best not follow rumor websites!
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I think that's where it's heading. First there will probably be a bit of a chin hidden behind glass at the bottom, like a bezel. Then the generation after a full chinless and bezel less machine.
Oh yes they would, the last event dragged out for ever and announced bugger all of any significance. If their product line performance had only kept pace with their egos and overblown rhetoric we would be able to render a Holywood epic in real time on a low-end imac by now.
In the last 18 months I've seen more macrumours stories about Apple execs attending some "elite" toss-fest than I have product launches.
This is from a Forbes article yesterday:
As more details leak about the new MacBook Pro expected at an Apple event on October 27, don’t count on ample availability, an analyst says.
“The supply is going to be tight on these initially,” Rhoda Alexander, an analyst at IHS Markit Technology, told me in a phone conversation. “Production is starting pretty late. Pretty late for a launch that’s this month,” she said.
IHS originally thought production had begun earlier. “The production was slated to start in Q2 but got delayed. We saw some initial [production] runs — then it got back-burnered,” she said, adding that production began in this (the fourth) quarter.
Most hardware manufacturers use Intel. If intels roadmap is delayed then the industry as a whole gets held back. So it's not like Apple is losing out to competitors because of its chip supplier, like it was during the end of Motorola's G4s and then IBMs G5s (particularly in the laptops)
Switching the ARM is a far greater risk for that reason alone, even without accounting for all the other difficulties that would come with it
They will either give it a CPU upgrade or just ignore it as usual.
Apple would have it's own roadmap since they have ARM licence. Everything would be happening in-house. And the transition would be very smooth probably. Most of iOS code is taken from Mac OS and runs just fine on ARM. There is no big problem here.
I could see that too but I believe Intel is in the middle of the current Xeon release. In other words, if Apple was going to use the current Xeons they would have already. It's in dire need of a GPU update too.
What is unconscionable is Apple continuing to sell it at its December 2013 price. Kill it, update it, or drop the price. But please do not continue to ignore it and sell it at its current price.
1. There are more ARM devices in the world than x86s.
2. Intel is even switching (some of) its capacity over to ARM.
3. Apple is putting ARM in everything: phones, tablets, TVs, watches, earphones, etc. Why the heck would Apple waste time on Intel when Intel has hit a tech wall, is poorly managed, and has already signalled its need to adopt ARM?
4. Apple doesn't have to worry about creating an OS that runs flabby and outdated software from other companies. It just needs to deliver a MacBook that runs on ARM and has trackpad input. A huge percentage of people need the power of an iPad Pro but want the ergonomics and input of a MacBook. Apple doesn't have to give a hoot about running traditional cuts of Office or Adobe products. Plenty of people can do without full-fat Office etc. They're happy with Apple software, offerings from competitors, or running the lite versions of Office etc that they can run today on iOS.
Whether its VHS vs DVD, film vs digital cameras, MySpace vs Facebook, or Blackberry vs the iPhone, things move on. x86 is yesterday's tech. ARM is where the future is headed.
2. Intel is even switching (some of) its capacity over to ARM.
3. Apple is putting ARM in everything: phones, tablets, TVs, watches, earphones, etc. Why the heck would Apple waste time on Intel when Intel has hit a tech wall, is poorly managed, and has already signalled its need to adopt ARM?
4. Apple doesn't have to worry about creating an OS that runs flabby and outdated software from other companies. It just needs to deliver a MacBook that runs on ARM and has trackpad input. A huge percentage of people need the power of an iPad Pro but want the ergonomics and input of a MacBook. Apple doesn't have to give a hoot about running traditional cuts of Office or Adobe products. Plenty of people can do without full-fat Office etc. They're happy with Apple software, offerings from competitors, or running the lite versions of Office etc that they can run today on iOS.
Whether its VHS vs DVD, film vs digital cameras, MySpace vs Facebook, or Blackberry vs the iPhone, things move on. x86 is yesterday's tech. ARM is where the future is headed.
Apple getting its in-house software running on a new processor platform isn't the major transition hurdle. It's the easiest part of the entire process.
The difficult part is offering an interim translation step (a la Rosetta) while trying to get everyone who develops software for your platform to rewrite their stuff.
It's not like they haven't already done that once or twice. Also iOS app simulator already runs your ARM coded app on an Intel running Mac.
