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New MacBook Pro Does Not Include a Charger in the Box in Europe
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Agree how is this Apple’s fault? This is what they voted for…
They are also going to decide in 2027 if they should make the unbundling mandatory and/or if they should include charging cables in the unbundling requirements.
You already have enough empty boxes at home; you don’t need another one. Just give us your money and be quiet, for goodness' sake, Mother of Nature!
USB-C PD negotiates the maximum supported wattage based a handshake between the chip in the charger and the device. Thats the point of the PD spec and the handshake.
Obviously a slower charger will charge slower and might charge too slow if you are actively using the device, but every USB-C PD charger or device is designed to function properly in those conditions. Charging batteries slower is actually better for the battery because it generates less heat, so you do gain that benefit as well.
I have personally gone for more than a week on a photo/camping trip charging my M1 Max MBP on nothing but a 35 watt car charger while driving. When I travel more conventionally with hotel rooms, I just bring a tiny 65 watt power brick that is more than enough for offloading photos and some edits.
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Just a couple. But I have expanded my reply into a complete post. Cheers Robert!
This is another good move from Apple, the world is literally drowning in redundant chargers and leads. I find it hard to believe that any reader of this site does not have a drawer full of redundant crap. IMHO NO product of any sort should come with a charger or a cable, they should always be offered as an option or a delete option. For myself, any MacBook will charge when plugged into my Apple Studio Display so the supplied Pro charger is redundant. I have two Anker desktop chargers with 100w/150w which do the job at different locations, at least a couple standalone Apple ones from older MacBooks plus far too many 30/40w micro Ankers and Ugreens, plus lots of junk chargers from various suppliers of tech products. Even worse, literally hundreds of little USB-A to USB-C leads which come with every single tech toy one buys these days. I regularly donate leads for recycling and I'm just about to do a mass donation of USB-A chargers. This is a typical MacRumors - I hate Tim Cook, I hate Apple storm in a teacup.
I use a 30W Anker micro charger when travelling, and it's more than good enough to keep my MacBook Pro alive, trickle charge it overnight, and run it any time I actually need to plug in during the day.
Not sure if someone mentioned it already but the EU version of the MacBook therefore also costs 100€ less. With this in mind it‘s actually not a very bad decision. Still kinda annoying to having to buy a 3rd party charger though (or the 1st party one).
Also personally I don’t have any spare laptop charger at home. When I sell a laptop I naturally sell them with the bundled charger.
Also personally I don’t have any spare laptop charger at home. When I sell a laptop I naturally sell them with the bundled charger.
The pre-order is quite silly now, for base model you cannot choose charger at all. You have to upgrade display, ram or storage to be able to choose charger.
But if you add the base model to shopping cart you can add charger to your order.
And yes the Mac is indeed 100 euros cheaper now so all good (but a bit confusing) I guess?
But if you add the base model to shopping cart you can add charger to your order.
And yes the Mac is indeed 100 euros cheaper now so all good (but a bit confusing) I guess?
I think we are saying the same thing. All the directive did was set a standard connector (and not every cable that uses that connector will necessarily charge since it even allows for specialized cables) so it may plug into a charger but that does not ensure it will function as expected.
The directive in TFA forced Apple to offer Macs sans charger, and Apple chose not to also sell one with a boxed charger and lowered prices; although it may not have been in response to a number of factors including exchange rates. The Euro is up by about 6%, so the old prices would have effectively yielded $120 more per unit; so a 100 euro drop roughly cancels out the impact of a stronger Euro. I'm guessing Apple has some smart bankers to minimize currency risk so who knows what actually drove the price drop.
That is the real issue - a substandard cable with USB-C connectors will plug in fine but unless it is designed to handle the current could get hot enough to be a hazard.
However, its market is likely small enough not to warrant separate packaging vs. just following the EU. Despite Brexit, the Eu regulatory environment will continue to dictate how products are made and sold in the UK.
While that is true, but there are common market setups beyond just the EU. Some non-EU states are in the EEA or have treaty arrangements that result in common standards even though they are not in the EU. As a result, products sold there meet EU regulations; or the market in a non-EU state simply is not big enough to warrant a separate configuration.
I wonder if there are two different box designs for these new MBPs?
That might explain why there’s no option for a bundled charger in the base model (presuming the base model comes pre-packed in a new box that has no room to include a charger) and is instead why you have to add a charger separately.
I wonder then if a configured model with charger selected comes in a larger box with the charger inside and a configured model with no charger connected comes in a new smaller box?
That might explain why there’s no option for a bundled charger in the base model (presuming the base model comes pre-packed in a new box that has no room to include a charger) and is instead why you have to add a charger separately.
I wonder then if a configured model with charger selected comes in a larger box with the charger inside and a configured model with no charger connected comes in a new smaller box?
Here in Sweden the prices are lower than the older model, more than the value of the charger actually.
The iPad Pro has also dropped in price so currency effects are applied.
Have the £ dropped in value compared to $ maybe causing a price increase?
Thing is, I recently charged my M4 MBA with an Anker charger and it gave me some nice noise in my usb-audio interface. Switched to the 35W Apple dual-charger and the noise disappeared. I wouldn't have found that out as easily, had there been no charger with the Macbook. Otoh, I'm ordering a new iPad pro, and I guess there won't be a charger in the box either - now that I've got the one from the MBA, that doesn't bother me, on the contrary, I do have enough of them.
I'm in the same charging situation as you (MBP/Studio Display) and I agree. I hardly ever use the charger for my MBP. We have a 13" M3 Air in the living room. When my daughter comes home in the weekends from school she brings her 13" M2 Air home. Both Airs are charged with the same charger.
It's perfectly possible to be in a situation where a new charger is not needed with a new purchase. If you do need a charger, just buy one.
It's not like chargers are now made from unobtainium or something. They are right there, in the store.
Very true. I traded in my M1 MBP on an M3 and as a result have 2 chargers, plus a 100W charger on my hub when at my desk. I would prefer to buy without a charger if it was cheaper.
This is a joke right?
I mean, when people sell or pass on their products will then need to buy chargers? Are devices breaking at a rate that leave too many chargers laying around?
This is and always was a price increase in disguise.
I mean, when people sell or pass on their products will then need to buy chargers? Are devices breaking at a rate that leave too many chargers laying around?
This is and always was a price increase in disguise.
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