Agree how is this Apple’s fault? This is what they voted for…The citizens want to regulate everything and everybody but don't like paying for it. Who knew? 🤣
They are also going to decide in 2027 if they should make the unbundling mandatory and/or if they should include charging cables in the unbundling requirements.This is an EU law requiring companies to sell laptops without a charger. A company can also sell laptops with chargers, but have to have a version without. https://www.trade.gov/market-intelligence/eu-portable-electronic-devices-change-requirements
By 28 December 2026, the Commission shall submit to the European Parliament and the Council a report on the impact of the possibility to acquire radio equipment without any charging device and without cables, particularly with regard to consumer convenience, the reduction of environmental waste, behavioural changes and the development of market practices. That report shall be accompanied, if appropriate, by a legislative proposal to amend this Directive to introduce mandatory unbundling of the sale of charging devices and cables from the sale of radio equipment.’
& again - no it won'tGo back and read what I said. Specifically this part:
"Is it dangerous to use a lower powered adapter? Unlikely given the power draw of a typical laptop. However, it could damage or, more likely, shorten the life of the adapter."
You already have enough empty boxes at home; you don’t need another one. Just give us your money and be quiet, for goodness' sake, Mother of Nature!Hey next time, just give me an empty box, Tim!!
USB-C PD negotiates the maximum supported wattage based a handshake between the chip in the charger and the device. Thats the point of the PD spec and the handshake.Go back and read what I said. Specifically this part:
"Is it dangerous to use a lower powered adapter? Unlikely given the power draw of a typical laptop. However, it could damage or, more likely, shorten the life of the adapter."
Just a couple. But I have expanded my reply into a complete post. Cheers Robert!70 watt chargers?
I use a 30W Anker micro charger when travelling, and it's more than good enough to keep my MacBook Pro alive, trickle charge it overnight, and run it any time I actually need to plug in during the day.USB-C PD negotiates the maximum supported wattage based a handshake between the chip in the charger and the device. Thats the point of the PD spec and the handshake.
Obviously a slower charger will charge slower and might charge too slow if you are actively using the device, but every USB-C PD charger or device is designed to function properly in those conditions. Charging batteries slower is actually better for the battery because it generates less heat, so you do gain that benefit as well.
I have personally gone for more than a week on a photo/camping trip charging my M1 Max MBP on nothing but a 35 watt car charger while driving. When I travel more conventionally with hotel rooms, I just bring a tiny 65 watt power brick that is more than enough for offloading photos and some edits.
That would Macbook Pro Product Greta edition.Hey next time, just give me an empty box, Tim!!
Exactly my point.. By standardizing on a common connector end users will think that any adapter that utilizes that connector is the same as every other one, which is not the case.
I can envision people buying one of these and using their iPhone adapter and, setting aside any damage / fire hazard risks, experience a situation where the laptop cannot perform up to its design specification.
I imagine because Ireland.The UK is not in the EU. It’s nonsense and penny pinching.
In the UK the base model is £100 more with NO charger!In Germany, the base configuration of the M5 MacBook Pro is 100€ less without the charger included compared to its processor model with the M4. If you buy the 70W charger, it is still 35€ less than the M4 (due to the dollar exchange rate?).
Here in the US a typical power outlet provides 1,800 watts (120 volts x 15 amps) of power. Exceed that and you're going to blow a fuse / trip a breaker. Those devices exist to keep the wires from overheating and melting / catching fire.
That’s not the point! It costs extra! Also strangely unavailable in the UK with the 512Gb option. I would also point out that the UK is no longer in the EU so it’s obviously excluded for other reasons than legalisation.
Well… you clearly don’t know the difference between Europe and the EU, do you?