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Seems weird that they would bring back SD card and not USB A...

SD Card is useful for things like backup storage while USB-A is a legacy port that is superseded by USB-C.
I dunno what you mean. Isn’t the new MagSafe supposed to be USB-C to MagSafe? What standard you are talking about here?

A MagSafe design, i.e. breakaway cable, but using standard USB-C ports and plugs. I have such a cable now for my Air. Works great.
 
I honestly don't get why they'd not match the 64GB of the previous Intel MBP if the rumours of it being capped at 32 are true

If it is true, it is possibly a design limitation of the memory modules since they are part of the overall SoC package and not independent DIMMs like with Intel. The belief with M1 is it was limited to 8GB or 16GB because they only had room for two memory dies that could be placed in the MCM and they were using 4GB and 8GB modules (so 2x4GB for the 8GB machines and 2x8GB for the 16GB machines).
 
Seeing Apple is bringing back many features from older MacBooks like the MagSafe charger, HDMI port & SD Card port.

In addition to the return of the start up chime in MacOS

it would be very epic if they bring back the glowing Apple logo (just a thought).
 
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The 2012's are built like tanks - I still use mine on a regular basis, hooked up to external SSD's and monitors.

Agreed. I'm posting this from a model half a year older than yours, hooked up to a KVM, so I have one external monitor, and use a portable USB drive for backups.

So is the base 16gb RAM more than enough? How many people here will be upgrading to 32gb?

I will likely stick with 16GB and 512GB as I intend to use it as a replacement for my 2018 iPad Pro 12.9 and 2017 MacBook Pro 15.4 (which is 16/512).

I'm coming from a MBA with 4GB and 256GB. Granted my MBA is 10 years old, so even 16GB here is a bonus for me.

I can't tell you HOW FREAKING LONG I've waited to see this line. HOW HARD WAS THIS?!?! This could have been done years ago.
  • 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage as standard with the base configurations.

512GB would be okay for a base configuration, but I would hope that there would be a 1TB or higher option without having to go BTO.

I'm about to replace my MBP 15" mid 2009 ! Still working fine but so heavy and worn out.

Anybody coming from that far ago ?

You got me by 2 years. mid-2011 13" MBA. Amazingly enough, it's gone this long without needing a single bit of service or repair. Color me impressed, though I shouldn't be.. my Apple IIe is still going strong, and it's coming up on 40 years.

BL.
 
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It’s crazy how excited we are in 2021 for a 14” computer, with a row of function keys, no bezels, a regular amount of ports, and MagCharing.
Apple has really nerfed the MBP line for us to be ending up here
You're quite mistaken. In 2021, we're excited about a laptop which offers a performance increase never seen since the launch of I-series intel CPU's. Highest performance to power ratio ever seen on a laptop. For people upgrading from an intel CPU MBP, this is a game changer.

My current 2018 MBP:
  • 16GB/512GB
  • With just Safari windows and textedit:
    • macOS lags
    • laptop heats up and fans spin
    • battery lasts less than 6 hours.

  • Most people don't care about the fn keys or already negligible bezel.
  • The ports are a huge welcome bonus. Apple having a positive impact on environment by looking past profits for the first time in years.
    • Add NVME expansion to get me excited about saving the environment.
  • Don't care for MagSafe bc I'm not using my laptop around kids who would run through the cable.
 
They should up the minimum storage to 1TB on MacBook Pros. 256GB was criminal when I bought mine in 2015 with limited funds. 512GB is a great improvement, but should be more for the price. (I bought my Mac Mini with 1TB. It’s the best value Mac in the line-up and I have zero complaints.)
I have a MacBook Pro from 2015 with 256gb of disk space and I never needed more. Big files are on my NAS. I still have at least 40gb space left. If 16gb / 512gb is the minimum for the new models I’d rather have 32gb / 256gb instead.
 
It’s crazy how excited we are in 2021 for a 14” computer, with a row of function keys, no bezels, a regular amount of ports, and MagCharing.
Apple has really nerfed the MBP line for us to be ending up here

Actually, consider it this way. When one is only looking at cosmetic changes, it reveals how shortsighted one can be when it comes to the upcoming Macs.

One needs to look under the hood to see what people are really excited for:
  • Apple's own CPUs.
  • High performance to power ratio.
  • functionality given from the ports on the laptop.
  • Increased memory and storage specs.
  • hugely increased battery life.
And these are just at the top of that. Considering that most people are still coming from the Lake series of Intel CPUs (or older; I'm coming from Sandy Bridge - mid-2011 13" MBA), the increased memory, storage, CPU performance, battery life, and screen space are all game changers for me, and that is notwithstanding going from an Air to a Pro.

In other words, the saying of beauty is only skin deep applies. Don't just look at what you see, but what benefits you in the long run.

BL.
 
Not a good thing to have if that useless slot prevents a port I could use for my XQD and CFExpress cards from my camera or microSD from my Raspberry Pi's.

Your camera should also be able to connect to your MBP over WiFi or USB (my Canon Eos Rebel T2i can use USB, and that was made in 2010).

The point here is that there are options besides pulling moving the SD card around.

BL.
 
"No MacBook Pro logo below the display".

I have used MacBook Pros for more years than I care to remember, and I've never noticed this before! I genuinely looked below the screen to check. Embarrassing in the extreme.
I'm on a 2013 MBP. I don't think the MacBook Pro logo was added until the refreshes a few years later.
 
Apple does not consider the Apple Silicon GPUs to be discrete. They had a lot of material on this distinction during WWDC 2020.
until they decide to make them discrete.

You don't expect their Mac Pros to have integrated GPUs, do you?
 
While I like mag safe charging from way back. I did like be able to use whatever side of the computer I wanted to charge via usb c
I totally agree. Am I the only one who feels like MagSafe is a backward step? Right now, I can connect a Thunderbolt dock with a single cable that charges as well as adding displays and connectivity. Reverting to a dedicated MagSafe port for power would require me to add a separate power cable. And the ability to use either side of the computer has made all the difference in places like coffee shops and the library, since you can't always control how close you will be to a power outlet.

While some people have said that maybe Apple would do both—include a dedicated MagSafe power port and allow charging through USB C/Thunderbolt—to me that makes even less sense. Why waste critical real estate on a MagSafe port when there are already ports that offer that same functionality? And then what cord does Apple provide?

Most of the other rumors make sense to me: personally, I like the Touch Bar, but it is clear that Apple isn't 100% behind it, since they never bothered extending that functionality to the rest of their Mac product line; having a dedicated HDMI port makes sense for business professionals who don't want to travel with adapters and dongles to connect to projectors and shared screens; the addition of an SD card feels a little less "obvious" to me, but again, I can see that catering to a "pro-sumer" market, especially photographers. But a MagSafe port? I don't get it at all.
 
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Haven't read every reply so it may have been mentioned already.
This means that there are three Thunderbolt ports expected, one less than on current high-end MacBook Pros.
There are 4 ports on the 2019 model but one is always in use to power the laptop so it will be the same number of ports.
 
Your camera should also be able to connect to your MBP over WiFi or USB (my Canon Eos Rebel T2i can use USB, and that was made in 2010).

The point here is that there are options besides pulling moving the SD card around.

BL.
And while wifi is probably just as fast as reading straight off the SD, and could easily replace it, it’s not nearly as fast as a CFExpress card and can’t replace that.
 
Personally I don't care about the ports at all. SD card is nice, but HDMI? I thought we moved to Thunderbolt. Why not miniDP anyway?

I would've preferred we stayed with 3x USB-C ports. And with basically every other device moving to USB-C, I see no reason to go backwards anymore. USB A is antiquated and we need to move on.
 
until they decide to make them discrete.

You don't expect their Mac Pros to have integrated GPUs, do you?
I’m not sure exactly what their implementation will be, but it looks like they’re about to do 64-core GPUs integrated into a CPU so I wouldn’t make the assumption that they will be discrete. Their whole Apple Silicon coding architecture is based around unified and shared memory.
 
I totally agree. Am I the only one who feels like MagSafe is a backward step? Right now, I can connect a Thunderbolt dock with a single cable that charges as well as adding displays and connectivity. Reverting to a dedicated MagSafe port for power would require me to add a separate power cable. And the ability to use either side of the computer has made all the difference in places like coffee shops and the library, since you can't always control how close you will be to a power outlet.

While some people have said that maybe Apple would do both—include a dedicated MagSafe power port and allow charging through USB C/Thunderbolt—to me that makes even less sense. Why waste critical real estate on a MagSafe port when there are already ports that offer that same functionality? And then what cord does Apple provide?

Most of the other rumors make sense to me: personally, I like the Touch Bar, but it is clear that Apple isn't 100% behind it, since they never bothered extending that functionality to the rest of their Mac product line; having a dedicated HDMI port makes sense for business professionals who don't want to travel with adapters and dongles to connect to projectors and shared screens; the addition of an SD card feels a little less "obvious" to me, but again, I can see that catering to a "pro-sumer" market, especially photographers. But a MagSafe port? I don't get it at all.

Magsafe because I drop my machine off my lazyboy leg rest a couple times a week, and if it hits on the top left corner I might eventually break the motherboard itself with USB C impacting the ground.

Anyone with kids wants MagSafe too.

I want both ways to charge. Fast USB C or thunderwhatever plus bringing back the MagSafe.
 
until they decide to make them discrete.

You don't expect their Mac Pros to have integrated GPUs, do you?
Here’s a few quotes from the macOS developer sessions from WWDC 2020. I remembered quoting them in a discussion last year. They’re not discrete in the traditional sense, so that’s not a good term for them.
"And to know if a GPU needs to be treated as integrated or discrete, use the isLowPower API. Note that for Apple GPUs isLowPower returns False, which means that you should treat these GPUs in a similar way as discrete GPUs. This is because the performance characteristics of Apple GPUs are in line with discrete ones, not the integrated ones. Despite the property name though, Apple GPUs are also way, way more power-effficient than both integrated and discrete GPUs."

"Intel-based Macs contain a multi-core CPU and many have a discrete GPU ... Machines with a discrete GPU have separate memory for the CPU and GPU. Now, the new Apple Silicon Macs combine all these components into a single system on a chip, or SoC. Building everything into one chip gives the system a unified memory architecture. This means that the CPU and GPU are working over the same memory."
 
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