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Not wrong, exactly .... but the reason I spent all the $'s in 2019 for one of those 16" Pros was the fact I wanted a machine that could still run modern Windows game titles well. That's the only time I boot it into Win 10. With the M1 and M1X, we don't even have separate AMD or nVidia video chips anymore; only the GPU Apple developed. That really seals off the option of games running well on an alternate OS you'd boot into. (I'm not even sure if Linux would get an accelerated GPU support for an M1/M1X? Wouldn't Apple have to make that themselves for them to use or release all the specs openly?)
I switched to Shadow.tech for gaming. Works MUCH better than any mac laptop.
 
Apple take my money already, should be a worthy update from my 2011 MBP 17" (which has magsafe) that won't upgrade past high sierra.
 
I'm very satisfied with my current M1 Air in 16/256GB, but the lack of two external displays suck bigtime.

So, I'm in the market if the new Pro's will support dual display setups.
 
Hey All,

I HEARD the reason they are not having the Touch Bar any more is the trackpad is now going to be a touch pad with an actual display. Its gonna be .

This is true, because I said it.

LOL @ us all chomping at the bit for a lap top with updated features that have already existed. Its like moving your kids bed time from 8PM to 7PM but letting them stay up late until 8PM.
 
While I like mag safe charging from way back. I did like be able to use whatever side of the computer I wanted to charge via usb c
You'll still be able to use the usb c/thunderbolt ports for charging. If they didnt support charging, they wouldn't pass the specification of thunderbolt 4. Maybe Apple might be able to find a way around this so they could push proprietary magsafe chargers, but afaik you need charging for it to be considered a thunderbolt 4 port.
 
The thing I am looking forward to the most!

MagSafe has saved my wife's MBA from certain death many times, and was very sorry to see it go at the horrible "hello again" event back in 2016.

I just hope Apple sticks to what works and doesn't try to reinvent the wheel, potentially causing more problems than what they are trying to fix.
"Hello Again" was "Goodbye Again" for me. Haven't bought a Mac from that moment onwards. If the rumours are true, it looks like they've finally made a machine worthy of buying again.

Now all they need to do is fire the entire software division management, and fix up the horrendous software quality control.
 
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Hey everyone. Will the 3.5 mm headphone jack really be removed?
I haven't seen it on any renderings and it isn't mentioned in any rumored port listing that i have seen.
Not a dealbreaker but really hate to see it gone.
I kind of understand the reasoning why it was removed from the iphones but from a Pro Notebook?
External DACs/Audio Interfaces are fine and i know bluetooth is (sadly) here to rule the world, but cmon, that jack is so small and sometimes its nice to be able to plug in some cabled headphone directly without all the extra hassle.
I still do it all the time with my 2010 macbook pro and i feel sound quality is (sometimes way) better than using ~200$ wireless headphones with my Iphone 12.
Hmm, not happy but have to pull the trigger anyway, been waiting forever for a 14" Macbook Pro and my 2010 is basically on life support, only a matter of weeks before fans or display will stop to work.

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Seems i was blind as it is on a lot of rendering and in the "what we know" feature on this site. Excuse the rant. Hope for the best.
Alas, Monday so far away
 
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I hope they have the new PCIe4 on these with new read and write speeds. A 1TB storage with 32GB of RAM would be nice on a 14” model.
 
I can't tell you HOW FREAKING LONG I've waited to see this line. HOW HARD WAS THIS?!?! This could have been done years ago.
  • 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage as standard with the base configurations.

It is not full 16GB of RAM for the CPU. It is shared with the GPU. So the number is lying a bit.
 
Six ports, including two Thunderbolt ports and a MagSafe charging port on the left side of the machine, and an HDMI port, a Thunderbolt port, and SD-card reader on the right side of the machine. This means that there are three Thunderbolt ports expected, one less than on current high-end MacBook Pros. Boo. Trading SD for TB is a regression.
It's not a trade. An SD card just needs a single USB 3.1 lane (or one PCIe lane if it's a fancy one). A Thunderbolt 4 port needs a whole extra Thunderbolt controller on the SoC which consumes 4 PCIe lanes and a pair of DisplayPort streams (or the extra circuitry to switch existing ones) and power delivery circuitry and - ideally - extra charging circuitry - most of which is rendered inaccessible if you plug a bog standard SD reader into the socket...

That's the problem with the "one true port" - a mobile SoC has limited I/O resources, the resources needed for a single TB4 port can power half-a-dozen so-called "legacy" ports that you can use simultaneously. Combining so many unrelated functions into a single port is a pointless bottleneck on a full-size laptop that has plenty of space for physical ports - its an idea borne of the "why would anybody buy a laptop when you can have a tablet" mindset that prevailed a few years back.

Anyway, if the new MBP has 3 TB ports each driven by their own controller, then that's 50% more TB bandwidth than the old 16" MBP, which had 4 ports sharing only 2 controllers/ Even the 2-port M1 Macs have the same theoretical TB bandwidth as the 4-port Intel models - and the new ports are compatible with the new TB4 hubs with multiple downstream TB connections.

However, in the spirit of pessimism, all those leaked schematics show is 3 USB type-C ports, with no indication of what protocols they support. I think there's an outside chance that the third port will be USB-3.1 only - just like the 3rd and 4th ports on the higher-end 24" iMac. Three TB ports just seems like an odd number (well, d'uh!)

At the very least, need a USB-C to MagSafe cable so we can reuse the ones we have.

I'd be surprised if one or more of the USB-C ports didn't support charging - otherwise you wouldn't be able to power the Mac from a USB-C/TB dock or display... so you could use any USB-C charger & cable that way.

I think the rumours were talking about higher power delivery (for fast charging) than supported by USB-C as one reason for restoring MagSafe - so a USB-C to MagSafe cable might not be a thing. I wonder if we'll see Ethernet in the power brick (like the iMac) - although that doesn't make so much sense with a breakaway connector like MagSafe (the iMac magnetic connector isn't designed to break away easily).
 
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Hey All,

I HEARD the reason they are not having the Touch Bar any more is the trackpad is now going to be a touch pad with an actual display. Its gonna be .

This is true, because I said it.

LOL @ us all chomping at the bit for a lap top with updated features that have already existed. Its like moving your kids bed time from 8PM to 7PM but letting them stay up late until 8PM.
3 out of 10 on your troll effort, you can do better.
 
Unleashed to me means we should expect to see great innovations released. However, the fact that so many rumours were wrong regarding the Apple Watch series 7, has me second guessing what we will see in this event. I hope the rumours listed in this article come true.
 
I’m hoping for a MagSafe/USB-C combo port. Having both available would accomplish the same thing I suppose, but combining them would be really cool.
Do you mean a MagSafe connector that also carried USB/TB/etc, or a port that could take either a MagSafe or a USB-C plug (but not both)?

Problem with the former: on a laptop, with its internal battery, having the power plug fall out is non-fatal, and you want to err on the side of the connector pulling out and saving the computer. Having the USB-C/TB plug fall out and suddenly disconnecting your super-fast RAID SSD array, or cutting your network connection is not a good thing, so you want to err on the side of staying in. Incompatible design requirements...
 
why HDMI. I bought a thunderbolt to hdmi cable for $9 from Amazon. I can use it if I need it but someone else can connect a different device if they don’t have a hdmi monitor. I have a thunderbolt to display port cable too since my monitor has a display port as well.
 
SD card and HDMI? Absolutely not happening. Can't imagine Apple backing down from their USB-C only paradigm.

One can dream though! I'll be trading in my 16" towards a new 14" for sure.
 
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Honestly, I find it "not too useful" - but not the worst thing ever. It's effectively just one more tiny touch-screen that can throw some extra info up on it. Biggest advantage I see for ditching it is just to reduce complexity and increase reliability a bit. At my old workplace, we had some machines have to get sent back just for a dead touchbar.
My fingers kept accidentally touching the POS and throwing my workflow off. I tried disabling as much as I could with it. Could probably have disabled more but company computer didnt allow for apps like that.

I'll be really happy once it's gone. Touchbar is objectively speaking; TRASH.
 
I honestly don't get why they'd not match the 64GB of the previous Intel MBP if the rumours of it being capped at 32 are true
 
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