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New MacBook Pro Finally Features a 1080p Webcam Within a Notch

Regbial said:
Oh you mean the dock? ... I'm sure most "pros" hide it most of the time or use full screen apps... You can't hide a physical notch with a full screen app... I don't think...
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I've always hidden it myself, and I plan on continuing to hide my menu bar as well on the new MBP, so I will continue to have the exact same usable content area I've always had.

And if I wasn't a menu bar hider, I'd have more.
 
Regbial said:
Oh you mean the dock? ... I'm sure most "pros" hide it most of the time or use full screen apps... You can't hide a physical notch with a full screen app... I don't think...
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of course you can. Just don’t use that area. Even with the area not used, it is still the same aspect ratio as the previous MacBook Pro at 16:10.
 
robertts said:
When you rewatch the part about the new mini-led display, you'll notice that the mini-led design seems to end at the menu bar.
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Be funny if the "rabbit ears" portion of the display was OLED intended for Touch Bars.

I hate the notch, I would hate to be trying to edit photos, graphics, or video full-screen with that there, and will stick with my M1 MBP and wait and see how things play out. That said, at least Apple did what they should have done with the iPhone and made it not so much a notch cutout of the screen but rabbit ears sticking up on the sides. Having parts of games, videos, photos, etc. missing on the phone was incredibly irritating and could have been solved simply by doing what it sounds like they've done with these MBP's: the "full screen" ends before the notch, not including it.
 
visualseed said:
And what happens when you use a different resolution for your screen and the physical notch no longer stays inside the menubar vertically but then protrudes into your content or workspace? Or is Apple going to make the menubar a fixed height no matter what resolution you use? Because that would really defeat the purpose of adding more screen real estate.
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In that case you just don’t use the additional space. Shots demonstrated that you don’t have to, there’s probably an option for that. And then, due to the fact that space is turned off (Mini LED) it’s exactly the same screen as before.

Though I doubt they made it extend beyond the menu bar in any resolution.
 
Darth Tulhu said:
So I guess this is what happens when Jony Ive leaves Apple?

I wanted to give someone new a shot, but DAMN.

How is it that Dell ca do this?!

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By having a bigger bezel on top? Not really a mystery. I prefer the MBP solution - more screen space for the menu bar.
 
TouchID is more secure. Your finger print really is very rare. But there are a few people in the world who look just like you. Some are more successful than you. Some are completely losers. Imagine meeting them.
 
B4rbelith said:
What a bunch of moaners. You get more screen real estate, people! And the notch disappears when apps are in fullscreen mode anyway. I don’t see the problem with this.

And for those with a weird, OCD style aversion to this, I absolutely guarantee that someone will engineer a way to remove it entirely and switch off those pixels altogether. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if there was an option built into the OS itself to alter the resolution to ignore it.
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You can already do this with the current MacBook Pros... which I, when I want to stream video content/share my screen... sometimes switch to a 16:9 resolution. The only thing it doesn't do just yet... is cut off the extra pixels from ONE edge only... aka doing it now introduces black bars at the top and bottom. Basically like letterboxing movies. Buuuuut I guess that should still be possible to do.
 
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I really hate the notch, it's immersion breaking with that black rectangle on the menu bar and in full screen apps. This is absolutely horrifying. I'd rather have a thicker bezel on top. Imagine putting a piece of electrical tape on your laptop at the 12 O'clock position...permanently. Oof.

I hope the new Air next year has the insides but not this.
 
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40 years ago Apple created a radical single line menu that many others tried to copy. Now they destroy this magnificent design with this useless pathetic notch. Not only I never gonna buy this joke but I’m gonna cancel 13 pro preorder. I can wait.
 
sideshowuniqueuser said:
OR, they could have made the entire laptop the equivalent of 74 pixels taller, and without a weird, ugly, notch.
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And people would complain about the tall forehead, Apple makes all their bezels the same size all the way around, there are still flag ship phones without symmetrical bezels, and I think they look horrible(my opinion). A notch will alway provide more screen real-estate, if they make it 74 pixels taller, they could also add a notch to that, and have more screen.

I personally think that those motorized cameras would be the best solution. Then I know my camera isn't capturing anything when hidden, takes no extra screen, and you don't have to worry about dropping it as much as you do with a phone.
 
All you people complaining about the notch don’t realize that it doesn’t give you less screen real estate, it gives you more. Same 16X9 ratio, but a bit more on top now for the menu bar. Maybe you don’t like the look, but what on earth will it possibly cover up? Functionally, it’s a no-brainer
 
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me22 said:
To me, the funniest part about all the complaining about a notch that content appears below is that most people have been living with one that content appears above this whole time.

Edit: Yes I mean the Dock, or the wasted space on either side of it depending on how you look at You can remove dock. You can’t remove the notch.
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me22 said:
To me, the funniest part about all the complaining about a notch that content appears below is that most people have been living with one that content appears above this whole time.

Edit: Yes I mean the Dock, or the wasted space on either side of it depending on how you look at it.
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You mean that there will be a notch removal option in system preferences or you are just a rare example of authentic stupidity?
 
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Jakewilk said:
All you people complaining about the notch don’t realize that it doesn’t give you less screen real estate, it gives you more. Same 16X9 ratio, but a bit more on top now for the menu bar. Maybe you don’t like the look, but what on earth will it possibly cover up? Functionally, it’s a no-brainer
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It's also possible to have no notch and increase real screen estate.
 
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From the time perspective I can say Touchbar was really productive feature. Looks like cost cutting to make save on BOM and to add physical ports. Bringing back to multiple ports HDMI and SD card is really strange move. I have Dell USB-C monitor connected via Thunderbolt and having one cable for video and power is great! Also cannot understand why they increase weight and size if they use energy efficient custom ARM SoC??! They dropped Intel due to make devices more energy efficient and thinner! Regarding notch - it ruins everything. Dark mode? Companies forgot that most of consumers are not PCB or CAD designers and do not need it! Also do not like that Apple limit multiple monitor support in Macbooks to force customers to select more expensive products. To support just one external monitor in M1 Macbooks? Really in 2020/21? Powerful ARM intentionally limited??!
 
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elptdbi3lYI said:
It's also possible to have no notch and increase real screen estate.
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Doesn't matter, it looks like 💩.

Instead of moving away from the notch generally, they reintroduce everything they killed once the past (which they called obsolete), and put the ugliest invention they made on top of it.
With the iPhone they at least had an excuse(FaceID).

A iPad Pro 12.9 bezel form/style would have been much better, and even FaceID would fit in.
 
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Wildkraut said:
Doesn't matter, it looks like 💩.

Instead of moving away from the notch generally, they reintroduce everything they killed once the past (which they called obsolete), and put the ugliest invention they made on top of it.
With the iPhone they at least had an excuse(FaceID).

A iPad Pro 12.9 bezel form/style would have been much better, and even FaceID would fit in.
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You misunderstood, what I mean is that it's possible to have same resolution and no notch. Argument that notch somehow creates more screen estate is nonsense.
 
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