New MacBook Pro Finally Features a 1080p Webcam Within a Notch

[hagjohn]

Notchphobia coming soon to a forum near you. Honestly, it doesn't really bother me since I (would) have nothing there at the top middle of the screen anyway. I guess I would open it there but that can be worked around.

 

[ProfessionalFan]

I think people will find the notch is not an issue in real world usage

 

[bobtem]

In Revelations, this was the sign of the end times...

 

[ValSalva]

Doesn't bother me but I am confused at why the display needs a notch and the iPad Pro, Air and mini do not and arguably have a better camera system.

I am not a fan of the notch but I guess I'll get used to it. To answer your questions, I think the iPad Pro doesn't need a notch because it's much thicker than the MBP lid.

The Air will get it next year but does not have one now because this current one is based on a 2018 design.

The Mac Mini doesn't have a built-in display. However, I don't think an eventual affordable Apple external display will get a notch because like the iPad Pro and the new 24" iMac, it will be much thicker than the lid on the new MBPs.

Anyway, these are my guesses.

 

[visualseed]

What? No it wouldn't. You just consider the part below the menu/notch as the parts you are rescaling.

Try running your MBP now with menu bar hidden and change your resolution. See the difference. Now imagine you also have menus and status icons available in the bezel above the screen.

Sometimes on my 13" MacBook Pro I actually change the resolution to see more menus items in my menubar. Example Cinema 4D @ 1440 x 900 which is Apple's default native resolution, the menu items go end to end and I lose all my menubar items. @ 2048 x 1280, I regain some space and menu items. A fixed sized menubar would prevent that.

 

[Brandon916]

15" XPS has a 720p camera, and a really piss poor one at that.

Apple have been having THE worst webcam forever. Look at all of the reviews.

 

[Regbial]

I do like how they decided to use the notch area for the menu bar. That makes perfect sense. The menu bar on my Mac has nothing in the mid-section anyway. It's just wasted space. But it's a pity Apple didn't incorporate FaceID into it. At the price point of those machines, it would have made financial sense. And what an ease of use it would be: just open the lid and you're on your desktop.

Yeah, it is... until you realize the menu bar is thicker here.

 

[CarAnalogy]

I don’t understand the bitching about the notch. Apple placed it in the middle of a space wasting Menu bar which doesn’t have a damn thing on it, so no friggin’ big deal IMO. This isn’t a Ferrari that you will be driving around town trying to compensate for something, it is a computer you will be using. It might seem to cost like a Ferrari though, at least on the high end. That is my major complaint.

While the computer is sitting at Finder there’s nothing there. But launch an application with a bunch of menu bar items and let’s see how this monstrosity of “design” handles that. Whoever approved this is the same one who looked at the awful notifications in Big Sur and said “perfect!”

 

[sudo-sandwich]

And that totally breaks the user-experience, which Apple used to be passionate about.

Not really. The mouse probably skips the notch too. I get how it's slightly wack, but then again having 20 menu items in an app is bad practice to begin with.

 

[Kwstas]

Still can’t believe it’s truth. Isn’t like trolls invaded Cupertino? Notch? Just, why? Notch? really, Why? Just, Why?

 

[drcre8tive]

Doh! Notch = no go Houston. What the?

 

[x-evil-x]

Still can’t believe it’s truth. Isn’t like trolls invaded Cupertino? Notch? Just, why? Notch? really, Why? Just, Why?

How I feel. Pretty embarrassed for apple honestly.

 

[obiwan]

I've got to say though - this design really is top notch!

 

[ponzicoinbro]

Their menu bar (developers) will still be under the notch occupying normal normal screen real estate. Now Apple’s menu bar won’t be stacked with it taking up even more area.

I mean in normal mode not full screen mode.

Photoshop and some other apps occupy more than half the width of menu bar on 13”. Even more if we use lower res scaled setting.

 

[SeenJeen]

Apple have been having THE worst webcam forever. Look at all of the reviews.

The Dell webcam is WORSE than the 16" MBP webcam, just in a smaller bezel. So, no, Dell has not 'pulled it off.'

 

[elptdbi3lYI]

Not really. The mouse probably skips the notch too. I get how it's slightly wack, but then again having 20 menu items in an app is bad practice to begin with.

It's not that simple as you must have X amount of menu items. What amount may fit in English may not in another language.

 

[Piggie]

I will admit I was shocked they did not announce Face ID given that's on of the BIG reasons for a notch on the iPhone.
I won't why they've not put it on the Mac?

 

[me22]

To me, the funniest part about all the complaining about a notch that content appears below is that most people have been living with one that content appears above this whole time.

Edit: Yes I mean the Dock, or the wasted space on either side of it depending on how you look at it.

 

[Miha_v]

I think people will find the notch is not an issue in real world usage

Not so sure,... tabs of all apps are shown in that exact spot, compromising visibility of them seems quite an awkward decision.

 

[Larsen2k4]

I'm guessing that FaceID will be one of the big features on one of the next update cycles. Having people already getting used to the notch before that might be the intention of Apple here.

 

[thunng8]

If Dell can pull it off, so can Apple. Their XPS has tiny bezel and w camera on top. This is a design choice to differ themselves from the competition. It is straight up ugly but oh well.

But the Dell is an awful fuzzy 720p webcam with a tiny sensor.

 

[thunng8]

So I guess this is what happens when Jony Ive leaves Apple?

I wanted to give someone new a shot, but DAMN.

How is it that Dell ca do this?!

The Dell has a awful fuzzy 720p webcam with a tiny sensor

 

[Miha_v]

To me, the funniest part about all the complaining about a notch that content appears below is that most people have been living with one that content appears above this whole time.

Sure,... but window sizes have been accommodating that for ages. Now you will have 2 "notches" (one up, one down), meaning browser real estate will be even smaller, if you want to see tabs normally.

 

[Regbial]

To me, the funniest part about all the complaining about a notch that content appears below is that most people have been living with one that content appears above this whole time.

Oh you mean the dock? ... I'm sure most "pros" hide it most of the time or use full screen apps... You can't hide a physical notch with a full screen app... I don't think...

 

[me22]

Sure,... but window sizes have been accommodating that for ages. Now you will have 2 "notches" (one up, one down), meaning browser real estate will be even smaller, if you want to see tabs normally.

Except browser real estate will be exactly the same or larger, seeing as how the menus are just moving up out of the 16:10 content area.