That's a lot of people buying expensive laptops just to check Facebook in Starbucks. Unless - wait, no - could it be that regular people are getting real work done without 32GB RAM? Surely not?
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New MacBook Pro Has Already Outsold All Competing Laptops This Year
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So basically these are $300, $400 machines. One them goes up just over $1k.
Not surprised the laptop that starts well over $1k and can cost over $4k is pulling in more revenue....
One thing they all have in common is none of these are what I'd consider pro devices. I certainly wouldn't buy these if I thought the MBP wasn't up to its previous standards. But this is the category that apple buts the "pro" in now.
Not surprised the laptop that starts well over $1k and can cost over $4k is pulling in more revenue....
One thing they all have in common is none of these are what I'd consider pro devices. I certainly wouldn't buy these if I thought the MBP wasn't up to its previous standards. But this is the category that apple buts the "pro" in now.
I was saving up to buy one. My 2011 MacBook Air is finally to the point that it's unusable. OSx runs like garbage on it's limited RAM. And unfortunately the screen has cracked. I have been saving up for the MacBook Pro, since my needs are a lot higher now than in 2011 when I bought the Air. (my job and income has changed a lot since then).
But the new Pro won't cut it for me. I'm not even concerned about the "power". or the USB ports. I would have liked a single USB-A port instead of needing a dongle for some things, but I could deal.
What I cannot deal with is the $500 price increase without a significant reason to justify it. The touchbar is completely useless for me, but the 15" quad core would be sweet since I'm quite often running VM's. So the price, and the Keyboard killed it for me. I spend most of my days typing furiously when I do Database work and testing of applications, scripting, etc. I NEED a comfortable keyboard with good key travel (After testing the rMB keyboard, my typing speed decreased from about 110WPM on traditional keyboard to around 60wpm). And the removal of the ESC key is absolutely asanine. I spend hours a day in VIM. Escape key is the most required and used key
The escape key wasn't removed
Really?
Where's the physical ESC key? the LED Bar doesn't count. Touch Typists (myself), who require extensive use of the escape key (myself), will suffer with this. a touch screen based key is no replacement for a physical key in touch typist land. It means everytime I have to hit the escape key, I have to 1, make sure it's actually ON the OLED bar. it's in the right place, it hasn't moved from other context, and can be easily reached without looking.
I'm a vi guy for 30 years. I'm not worried about ESC and I must hit it a thousand times a week. The bar is physically raised, and you can hit to the left of where ESC shows and it still registers. So muscle memory works.
pure nonsense. Some of us use our devices until they're beaten into the ground and considering the resale, which is not gauranteed at any value as part of my initional purchasing decision would be completely nonsensical.
you're making excuses for the premium. It's OK if you still think this is good dollar value for you. I'm not trying to say whats true for me is true for you, I'm just saying, for myself, Resale cost is NEVER a consideration, since I almost have never resold any computer I've ever used.
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Have you tried it yet? (out of legit curiosity).
I will honestly go to the store and give it a shot when they're available and eat my words if I find it just as good.
But I'm a pure 100% touch typists. THe second I have to look down, and relearn how to type certain keys because Apple decided they didn't like a physical escape key anymore, they have broken my workflow.
That seems to be it. Apple's had a recent trend where laptops have been moving cheaper, and they reversed it. The complaints started off about functionality but seem to have migrated to griping about the additional cost of adapters/cables, or the price of the laptop itself.
They're missing a LOT of products in their comparisons.
Dell doesn't just have 1 Laptop line for example. They have the Inspirons (Home/Office laptops ) The Latitudes (Business laptop line), Precision (Workstation / Professional Line), Chromebook (chromebook line) and XPS (Home consumer / ultrabook).
And yet this article ONLY compares to the Inspiron. The lower end home laptop with low revenues (they start at $500)
Then moving on to Microsoft: This calculation doesn't include the Surface Pro lineup or the Surface.
Lenovo has their Thinkpad lineup, their Ideapad lineup, and Multiple series of Yogas (not just the 900). Yes, Each of these lines actually have multiple different versions as well. (Currently Lenovo has 16 different laptops)
Want me to go on? Why this article is 100% pure shill and marketting fluff?
THen, you also are comparing Apple's Only two current laptop products, and only 5 days of initial sales, after not being updated in 2-3 years.
Yet, All the other manufacturers update regularly and often, Thus providing far less "spikey" behaviour to their product lineup. 5 days of first day sales only tells you that there was a lot of pent up demand, NOT that they can maintain sales levels.
Yet all the competition listed is showing sales that range for up to 1.5 years. With ebs and flows of purchasing, Seasonal variances, and so many factors to consider, Most laptop sales do not maintain their high levels and tend to follow far more consistent and less spikey behaviour. The only way this comparison is legit at all, is if the variable of "time" is consistent to all laptops compared. Not taking the first 5 days of sales of the Laptop and then 1-2 years of specific laptops
DOn't take th is as me hating on the laptop. I think the rMBP 2016 edition will be a great laptop for many users. I h ave a few gripes with it preventing me from buying one. But I bet it'll work very well for many people.
But the marketting ******** that is being spewed as "fact" that you're gobbling up is embarrassing. (I mean "you" in the royal, general sense, not you specifically).
This is apple telling you "Look how amazing we are, yo all love us, so you want to be like us too!" it's also a way of managing Cognitive Dissonance and convincing these existing purchasers "look, you're not alone, you made the right decision!"
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The problem I have with these upgrades is that the $600ish price tag you mention is for a full new drive. Brand new. OEM. so first, Apple gets discount, and 2nd, If i upgrade ot the 1tb drive, instead of the 512, Why do I pay full price of the 512gb drive and THEN the 1tb drive on top?
the laptop isn't suddenly getting 1.5TB? i don't keep the 512GB device. So, Apple's costs are really about 1/2 of that, as the drive is a substitution and not addition
although, to be fair, MOST laptop companies are using this pricing model and it pisses me off.
Turns out the new 2016 MacBook Pro is slower than the old 2015 MacBook Pro...
https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/925386
https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/1001114
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B84n60csy_WqV015bC1KV3BVMEU
https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/925386
https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/1001114
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B84n60csy_WqV015bC1KV3BVMEU
You have choice with a Mac too, and in fact you can choose Windows, Linux, Dell, HP, Microsoft, anything you like, the free market is strange that way.
Many cranky posters here would assert the MBP is the Spark and the [insert plasticky windows machine] is the Cadillac
There are individuals at Apple that care about their customers, but the company itself (ie. the shareholders who are ultimately in charge) cares only about one thing: money. As much of it as possible. They achieve this by doing two things: building a loyal customer base, and pricing their products as high as their customer base will let them. In other words, Apple (the company) won your loyalty so that they could further their reach into your wallet. They will always toe that line.
Where you are right though, is regarding how long they can get away with increasing their prices. At a certain point it will alienate TOO MUCH of their customer base and cause them to start LOSING profits. Then and only then will their prices come down.
This reminds me of the presidential election. Lots of pros and experts pointing out all of the various problems with something, and predicting it will flop. Then a bunch of people (who??????) vote for it.
Your quote above is offensive. Macs are beautiful and useful. Nothing like that ________ that you're trying to compare macs against.
Care to show me another PC OEM that does better? Acer? Asus? HP? Lenovo? Dell? Heck, Microsoft?
Show me a laptop OEM that gives me worldwide warranty as standard, where I can go to any of its retail establishment and service center around the world and get support.
Apple is not perfect, but before claiming Apple to be greedy etc, show me other companies that do better.
Not something I'd have a problem with.Really?
Where's the physical ESC key? the LED Bar doesn't count. Touch Typists (myself), who require extensive use of the escape key (myself), will suffer with this. a touch screen based key is no replacement for a physical key in touch typist land. It means everytime I have to hit the escape key, I have to 1, make sure it's actually ON the OLED bar. it's in the right place, it hasn't moved from other context, and can be easily reached without looking.
Probably true, but I am still surprised about the figures as the forums are full of complaints.
I also waited and was disappointed after taking a look at the model without TouchBar. There are too many things about the new MacBook Pro that I do not like (keyboard, lack of ports, lack of SC card slot). Therefore, it's bad value for the money (from my point of view) and led me to the decision not to buy it. On second thought, I am even considering to turn my back on Apple when it comes to notebooks. I still like my iPhone, iPad and MacMini though.
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The 2015 Mac book pro is not that long of a time ago that people should feel super deprived as you are suggesting. How often do you want to see new MBPs? Every 6 months? Every month?