Apparently you are one of the rare people who can go to the Amazon or eBay website and find what you need at the best possible price, ...
So who do you think is going to buy more peripherals, someone who has demonstrated that they are not afraid to put their hand in their pocket and pay $2,000 for a computer, or someone who scraped together just enough to buy a $500 laptop?
This is all Schiller marketing spin.
Exhibit A:
(quote) "based on e-receipt data from 12,979 online shoppers in the United States. (/quote)
Big deal. They sold a little less than 13,000 laptops over a 5-day period. Yawn......
Make a guess. How many hard drives are being sold to be attached to a $2,000 computer for backups, and how many for $500 computers?
Looks like many people acting like a blind sheep out there…
Will keep using my old and trusty 13” MBP with 2 SSDs, all the ports i need included MagSafe till i can find fully loaded one from last year to replace it.
Can't wait to see the "return" figures or the refurbished store in the new year!
Though I would say, if Apple were to make touch bar standard across all MBPs, it'll be even better
According to Slice Intelligence it keeps track of 4.4M online shoppers. Of those 16,754 brought one of those laptops mentioned in the graph.
The 32GB option will come with suitable Kaby Lake processors. This has nothing to do which Schiller. Same goes for TB3 in the next MacBook since Kaby Lake supports it sans an additional controller. No surprise there.
Like operate an eGPU over TB3? How about a pair of 5K monitors?
Or one dock, like I already do with my TB1 and TB2 machines. I had an Air, it's not like it was swarming with ports.
Fortunately, with 10 hours of battery life, the only time it makes sense for me to be connected to power is at my desk where I'm also connected to other cables that don't have a magnetic release. Okay. I don't understand the simultaneous rage over a lack of connections coupled with whining about MagSafe going away. MagSafe made a lot of sense when laptops couldn't run ALL DAY on battery. But seriously, with 10 hours of battery life, how often are you plugged in somewhere that is NOT your desk? Unless your desk is in the middle of a room with power hookups across the room, this is silly.
(And yes, I have kids. And yes, I have a cat. MagSafe has saved me exactly twice: both instances on a 2010 MacBook Pro that had weaksauce battery life compared to my 2012 Air and 2013 Pro. It was always while working in a chair while plugged in.)
Or more accurately the machine and its features fits their needs. I've been fairly up front about my displeasure with what was removed, but it appears that the majority of people who have bought those machines do not have the same concern.Looks like many people acting like a blind sheep out there…
You do realise it's "revenue" ......see prices of new MacBook pros. Very important ....one MacBook Pro sold for £1000000000000000 supports their analysis .... we on mac rumours are more interested if people are buying these and not how much revenue comes in.
Second they have a small pool of clients .... I'm sure other research companies have different results, so can I ask why this company figures are correct or can we agree that it's just thier view.
Of course you need apple's figures ... do you judge the success of a new product based on how many harrods sells??
You need more data on which retailers are part of this analysis .
I doubt it. The bandwidth over the four thunderbolt 3 ports is pretty significant... the speed of TB3 over TB2 is 2x. The 2016 15" can drive two 5K displays plus its own. Dude thats pro. You don't like it for your reasons, we get it.
IF so, I will be getting my MBP in 2018.not a chance a version with 32 gb ram...maybe in 2018
So people who have different opinion than you in what they want from a new computer is blind sheep. Good logic. You should feel proud.
Have fun enjoying your old rusty 13".
I will replace my 2012 rmbp with a new now. Will be huge difference in performance. Will get a much better screen. All in a smaller package with even more build quality than before.
And finally im not limited by only having 2 usb ports.. this 4 tb3 setup is the best thing ever happened to laptops.
And im a professional photographer that wont miss sd card slot, all cameras i had have a cable connection too. And my latest camera can transfer photos with wifi.
And as my biggest hobby is musicproduction, this faster and more versatile in/out is awesome.
They don't care about experience either
Removal of ports, removal of pro software, inflated prices, 1/10 repair ability and eye watering repair prices
Yeah, no, saying it doesn't make it so despite the apparent disconnect in the American psyche these days. The 2016 MBP with the better screen (I work in video production, P3 colour space welcome), faster SSD, and industry crushing 4x TB3 ports means I will be connecting more, and more powerful, devices that you could ever dream of attaching to your 2015 model. Maybe not the day it arrives but within 6 months... I am betting on my future, not the past (being Canadian I am a lot more confident in my future).
That said, if the rest of you wouldn't mind cancelling your orders ASAP so my order can move up the cue I have this RED project coming in I want to finish in 4K Rec2020 in the new FCP X (I desperately need a break from my day-to-day Avid Media Composer work).
There is a reason he still CEO but it's not because he is leading Apple to make good, useful, cool products. If you step away from the forest and examine Cook's CEO tenure you'all see a pockmarked trail of less than insanely great products. He lacks imagination and he is really honed in on margins more than truly creating products with outstanding user experience. He is still there because Jobs left him a cash cow and he hasn't had enough time to totally screw that up yet. But Cook era products are subpar for Apple.
I just need to connect to one or two 5K external monitors, can the late 2015 model do it? Even connecting two 4K at 60Hz is impossible before.
What a failure of a product. Tim Cook's apple is a sinking ship.
The "HORDE" aren't going to buy a 32gb model even if it was available.
BTW .. this is the original artlcle:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-mac...-set-to-surpass-2015-macbook/#ftag=CAD590a51e
It has an updated graph with a few more laptops in there.
are they counting all the macbook pros sizes into one?
... MagSafe made a lot of sense when laptops couldn't run ALL DAY on battery. But seriously, with 10 hours of battery life, how often are you plugged in somewhere that is NOT your desk? Unless your desk is in the middle of a room with power hookups across the room, this is silly.
I'm starting to get the impression that most don't like it simply because they can't afford it.
And im a professional photographer that wont miss sd card slot, all cameras i had have a cable connection too. And my latest camera can transfer photos with wifi.
Point.3GB/s SSD is not new? TB3 is not new? USB-C is not new? 2x trackpad is not new? Touch bar is not new? THESE all add up to the price increase.
They're missing a LOT of products in their comparisons.
Dell doesn't just have 1 Laptop line for example. They have the Inspirons (Home/Office laptops ) The Latitudes (Business laptop line), Precision (Workstation / Professional Line), Chromebook (chromebook line) and XPS (Home consumer / ultrabook).
And yet this article ONLY compares to the Inspiron. The lower end home laptop with low revenues (they start at $500)
Then moving on to Microsoft: This calculation doesn't include the Surface Pro lineup or the Surface.
Lenovo has their Thinkpad lineup, their Ideapad lineup, and Multiple series of Yogas (not just the 900). Yes, Each of these lines actually have multiple different versions as well. (Currently Lenovo has 16 different laptops)
Want me to go on? Why this article is 100% pure shill and marketting fluff?
THen, you also are comparing Apple's Only two current laptop products, and only 5 days of initial sales, after not being updated in 2-3 years.
Yet, All the other manufacturers update regularly and often, Thus providing far less "spikey" behaviour to their product lineup. 5 days of first day sales only tells you that there was a lot of pent up demand, NOT that they can maintain sales levels.
Yet all the competition listed is showing sales that range for up to 1.5 years. With ebs and flows of purchasing, Seasonal variances, and so many factors to consider, Most laptop sales do not maintain their high levels and tend to follow far more consistent and less spikey behaviour. The only way this comparison is legit at all, is if the variable of "time" is consistent to all laptops compared. Not taking the first 5 days of sales of the Laptop and then 1-2 years of specific laptops
DOn't take th is as me hating on the laptop. I think the rMBP 2016 edition will be a great laptop for many users. I h ave a few gripes with it preventing me from buying one. But I bet it'll work very well for many people.
But the marketting ******** that is being spewed as "fact" that you're gobbling up is embarrassing. (I mean "you" in the royal, general sense, not you specifically).
This is apple telling you "Look how amazing we are, yo all love us, so you want to be like us too!" it's also a way of managing Cognitive Dissonance and convincing these existing purchasers "look, you're not alone, you made the right decision!"
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The problem I have with these upgrades is that the $600ish price tag you mention is for a full new drive. Brand new. OEM. so first, Apple gets discount, and 2nd, If i upgrade ot the 1tb drive, instead of the 512, Why do I pay full price of the 512gb drive and THEN the 1tb drive on top?
the laptop isn't suddenly getting 1.5TB? i don't keep the 512GB device. So, Apple's costs are really about 1/2 of that, as the drive is a substitution and not addition
although, to be fair, MOST laptop companies are using this pricing model and it pisses me off.
BS on the Verge, and just as many who "hate" Android that are for team Apple. Stop acting as if it's different in your camp/MR is full of Apple haters, so are most of the sites.
The Verge forums, they ban the people who simply like Apple, for example, because MS is running the show after all...