As you’re in the mood to be ridiculous you forgot the parallel port and TB1, TB2, and 3.
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New MacBook Pro Has Already Outsold All Competing Laptops This Year
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its just people that want macOS. And have the money to pay for it. Others cry on forums
I'm conveniently forgetting nothing. It is a damn good machine. Just somewhat overpriced, and that premium is because of the logo. Nothing else.
Best response so far! I am not denying there is a segment of the market that needs more RAM and a beefier video card (though I question how many there are that they HAVE to have this on a laptop) but there are a whole lot of us that this new MBP really rings all the bells. The whole "adaptor" issue is such a tempest in a teapot having been through a few such transitions before.
What I have criticized Apple for since the keynote was not even mentioning the future of the other Macs. So much of the bad press could have been avoided by a simple statement.
I for one am really looking forward to my new MBP (totally maxed out) and getting to work on it.
I think there are likely other reasons for the price increase, such as the new super fast SSD system that no or few other manufacturers are using (making it more costly for Apple to use).
New MBPs don't sell: Wow what a failure.
New MBPs sell very well: Oh wow people r dum its all over Apple is finished.
This place has changed a lot, this place used to be pretty smart.
New MBPs sell very well: Oh wow people r dum its all over Apple is finished.
This place has changed a lot, this place used to be pretty smart.
I am not sure how clear a picture this really offers. There are at least two things that need to be considered before coming to any conclusions, including: (1) overall sales revenue from the MB and (2) price difference between the MB and the new MBPs.
I haven't followed sales of the MB all that much, so this is the first point of data we need. What are the total sales generated by the MB and how many MB units have been sold? This would give us the average selling price of the MB. Secondly, we need to consider the price difference between the MB and the MBP. The base models for the 12" MB and new 13" MBPs are within $100 of each other but while the highest non-BTO MB goes up to ~$1600, the highest non-BTO 15" MBP goes up to ~$2800. That is almost double. The disparity is likely not that drastic but if we were to assume the average MB sells for $1450 (taking the average of the highest and lowest non-BTO pricing) and the average MBP sells for $2200 (again taking the average of the highest and lowest non-BTO pricing), then Apple only needs to sell two MBPs for every three MBs. Still, this does not take into account BTOs which would increase the price of the MBP more than the MB, given the greater number of options for updating the MBP.
In sum, the story doesn't really tell us much about real sales without hard numbers.
I haven't followed sales of the MB all that much, so this is the first point of data we need. What are the total sales generated by the MB and how many MB units have been sold? This would give us the average selling price of the MB. Secondly, we need to consider the price difference between the MB and the MBP. The base models for the 12" MB and new 13" MBPs are within $100 of each other but while the highest non-BTO MB goes up to ~$1600, the highest non-BTO 15" MBP goes up to ~$2800. That is almost double. The disparity is likely not that drastic but if we were to assume the average MB sells for $1450 (taking the average of the highest and lowest non-BTO pricing) and the average MBP sells for $2200 (again taking the average of the highest and lowest non-BTO pricing), then Apple only needs to sell two MBPs for every three MBs. Still, this does not take into account BTOs which would increase the price of the MBP more than the MB, given the greater number of options for updating the MBP.
In sum, the story doesn't really tell us much about real sales without hard numbers.
This initial numbers might reflect many Macbook Pro users waiting for a long time to upgrade. Because Apple don't do yearly update of MBP like iphone. Once that dies down, let's hope the healthy demand continues well into 2017. In my opinion, Macbooks are design/built better than windows but must not cost twice the price of window's laptop. I will wait until 13.3 base(8GB,256GB) Macbook Pro's price hits $1199. May be that time Apple will upgrade Macbooks with Intel Cannon/Tiger/Ice lake 10nm processors, without 16GB max RAM restriction and blistering fast Optane SSD inside.
Just curious what you, and everyone else, are comparing it to when calling it "overpriced"? More expensive than other laptops that do not have the same specs, sure, but overpriced compared to what exactly?
Wait for it, here come a whole lot of comparisons to laptops that are cheaper because they don't even come close to the spec vs. spec comparison. Seriously folks, do the work and find me 4x TB3 (or even 1x TB3 that isn't crippled), PCIe 3 SSD, 16GB (or more) of comparable RAM, and a wide gamut screen. I will give you a break on finding USB 3.1 gen 2, support for 2x 5K screens, and all of the other little enhancements you simply cannot find on other laptops.
I personally bought 2 MacBook Pros because my family's were 4 and 7 years old, respectively.
But I purchased last year's model. I couldn't stomach the extra $500-1000 for the same configuration of the new model, plus the need for all those dongles, just to get a touch bar that I won't use in the 90% of the time that I work in clamshell mode.
Had the new MBP offered the option for 32GB RAM, I probably would have done that. I liked the CPU and Video generational improvements, but in the end I am very satisfied keeping my SD card slot, USB ports, magsafe connector, and the $1000 in my pocket.
But I purchased last year's model. I couldn't stomach the extra $500-1000 for the same configuration of the new model, plus the need for all those dongles, just to get a touch bar that I won't use in the 90% of the time that I work in clamshell mode.
Had the new MBP offered the option for 32GB RAM, I probably would have done that. I liked the CPU and Video generational improvements, but in the end I am very satisfied keeping my SD card slot, USB ports, magsafe connector, and the $1000 in my pocket.
This is not meaningful.
(1) There was a huge, pent-up demand for a new MBP, because it had been so long since an update. Sales right after release don't tell us much.
(2) "Newest MacBook Pro" is given as an aggregate (apparently of the whole lineup of new MBPs), and it is set against, for example, the Yoga 900. But there is also a Yoga 700 series, and a Yoga 2 series, not to mention Lenovo's other laptops (Thinkpad, in multiple varieties) and all the other Windows laptops.
(3) The measurement is "indexed revenue," and of course Macs are high revenue items.
It is far too early to tell what the new MBP will do to the long-term success of the Mac.
(1) There was a huge, pent-up demand for a new MBP, because it had been so long since an update. Sales right after release don't tell us much.
(2) "Newest MacBook Pro" is given as an aggregate (apparently of the whole lineup of new MBPs), and it is set against, for example, the Yoga 900. But there is also a Yoga 700 series, and a Yoga 2 series, not to mention Lenovo's other laptops (Thinkpad, in multiple varieties) and all the other Windows laptops.
(3) The measurement is "indexed revenue," and of course Macs are high revenue items.
It is far too early to tell what the new MBP will do to the long-term success of the Mac.
It seems that Apple can charge $10,000 for these new, under-powered, no ports Pros and people will still buy them. There are 13 million people who develop for the Apple platform, in addition to millions of others who have been with Apple for so long they would have never know how to use a PC, or are will to learn. These guys have no other choice but to pay whatever exorbitant price Apple wants for their products, so Apple will keep raising their prices by 33% or whatever they want for the newer products. Kudos to Apple. Shame on the sheep and lambs!
...or that understand the utility and future-proofing represented by 4 identical, multifunctional, USB-C/TB 3 ports with a total of 80 Gbps I/O bandwidth (vs. less than half of that for any previous laptop, including the previous gen. MBP), a 5k, wide-gamut display, and a unique multifunction touch control that doesn't eat up valuable screen space, nor cause Gorilla Arm.
1st.... congrats on getting 8 years out of your Pro!!!
I'd suggest, if price is an issue- get the non "fancy F key" version, max out RAM, bump up the ssd to 512gb & that should definitely last you another 8!
If you need a more powerful video card or bigger ssd in the future, tb3 has the insane speed to allow those external upgrades at the same speed as if they were factory installed inside your machine.
Must be sarcasm.
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Let me fix that statement for you...
Lots of sheep in here.
This is a great laptop. Overpriced but powerful technology and lightweight, with an attractive software and body. To think this laptop is "bad" by any means is to drink the koolaid of macrumor whiners, who create this imaginary "perfect" device in their mind and feel entitled to it, only to be mad when Apple doesn't create it. They then go look for faults to whine about purely to justify their frustration and not look foolish.
Yes there are things to gripe about with this laptop, as with any piece of technology ever created. But to say this laptop is bad is to be stupid.
You realize that 90% or more of the office workers could use a MacBook Air for their PROfessional career.
(I'm just pulling the 90% off the top of my head, but I'm betting its actually a higher number)
I'm not sure which orifice you retrieved that $10,000 figure from; but as far as "no ports", you've got to be kidding me!
But to call a laptop with about twice as much raw I/O bandwidth of any other laptop, and which has given Users the Ports they will start seeing virtually everywhere starting about... um... now, and more importantly, will continue to see for the next several years as having "no ports" is both short-sighted and demonstrably incorrect.
Maybe in the Windows world, where people have to replace their computers every couple of years, you can ignore how product design decisions will affect the viability of a product over time; but considering the average length of time that MacBooks are perfectly viable, and considering the fact that CPU and GPU and Display advancements are undeniably slowing-down due to those pesky laws of physics, Apple's decision to put a bunch of identical, multifunction, high-bandwidth I/O ports, ports that will become increasingly more common over the next few years, will start looking pretty smart.
It's interesting to see that the new MacBooks have outsold most other laptops in just 5 days! even with pent up demand it's impressive, Apple themselves had said that they had more orders than any other MacBook Pro before it, with online orders, it seems they weren't wrong. I think the Touch Bar has been underestimated.
Disappointing. This kind of feedback is what encourages Apple to continue like this. Unfortunately, they are not producing any Macs right now that appeal to me.