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New MacBook Pro Has Already Outsold All Competing Laptops This Year
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Not really surprised, its an amazing computer and a great update. Keep up the good work Apple!
Apple user since OS X Tiger and yesterday one of our MacBooks broke. For the first time we're going to replace it with a Windows laptop. The current Apple lineup is too confusing and expensive. And if one of our iPhones fails it's going to be an android instead. The whole lightning/USB-C/headphone jack thing combined with another increase in price made us realise they're not worth the money anymore.
Sad state of affairs.
Sad state of affairs.
Yep, that must be the only reason.
But in this case, the prisoner has a choice of walking out of the prison in his own will and at anytime. He also has lots of other kind of water to drink from....
That is not Pro. Where do I plug in my PS/2 mouse?
It's not that easy at all. First, the article has no references at all to volumes of sales.
You cannot easily tell here who sells more / less in volume as pricing structures accross the companies vary wildly. as do product offerings. This praticular graph has hand picked only a few models to compare revenue models to, and not laptops configurations as a whole.
For example, there is the surface book. But where is the Surface pro? Where is the Surface? Where is the Surface Studio?
What about ASus'sother laptops? What about Dell's other laptops. The XPS series? Lattitude? etc?
The biggest failure of this article, and the ridiculously poor spin Mac Rumors author is attempting here to potray is that there's no easy comparison and numbers you can use to make the claims you have. While Apple essentially has a lineup of 2 laptops right now (with a few different configurations), Companies like Dell, Lenovo, Asus, etc, often have dozens of different laptop options that do spread revenues amongst these options.
So yes, it's very likely true that Apple's rMBP and rMB are earning the most Revenue per individual product type. But, it's a half truth that doesn't accurately reflect what is truly going on in the market itself.
And in related news, dongle revenue is at the highest level since 1984.
I doubt it. The bandwidth over the four thunderbolt 3 ports is pretty significant... the speed of TB3 over TB2 is 2x. The 2016 15" can drive two 5K displays plus its own. Dude thats pro. You don't like it for your reasons, we get it.
I'll admit I'm looking hard at it, and trying to decide if I can afford one. What I'd really like is a decent Mac Mini, or even a Mac Pro that's been updated within a couple of years - but there isn't one. Failing that, I'd like a Macbook with expandable RAM and hard drive - but there isn't one of those either.
But on the other hand, I can't keep using my 2008 Mac Pro much longer - It's already hurting me in looking for jobs and running programs I want to run. So... What's the best option? Is it better to stick with Mac OS (even if the computer is inadequate for my usage) which I like and enjoy - and have ~20 years of software for - or do I try switching to a new OS and having to get new *everything*?
But on the other hand, I can't keep using my 2008 Mac Pro much longer - It's already hurting me in looking for jobs and running programs I want to run. So... What's the best option? Is it better to stick with Mac OS (even if the computer is inadequate for my usage) which I like and enjoy - and have ~20 years of software for - or do I try switching to a new OS and having to get new *everything*?
Let's see if my prediction will come true where I predicted Apple to announce price cuts during Kaby Lake MBP release. My guess is it'll be during Apple first event next year (providing Intel doesn't mess things up again), as they'll have a good "report" to tell the audience and then talk about how they're upping the specs again with Kaby Lake and dropping the price probably by USD200 so more people can experience the new MBPs and join those happy people who bought the Late 2016 models
Lol.. Only its not. It has a modest speed bump over the previous rMBP and is expensive than Macbook Air that it is supposed to replace by hundreds of dollars. And you need to spend more on dongles that adds to the inconvenience. I fail to see how it is good for that price.
I was saving up to buy one. My 2011 MacBook Air is finally to the point that it's unusable. OSx runs like garbage on it's limited RAM. And unfortunately the screen has cracked. I have been saving up for the MacBook Pro, since my needs are a lot higher now than in 2011 when I bought the Air. (my job and income has changed a lot since then).
But the new Pro won't cut it for me. I'm not even concerned about the "power". or the USB ports. I would have liked a single USB-A port instead of needing a dongle for some things, but I could deal.
What I cannot deal with is the $500 price increase without a significant reason to justify it. The touchbar is completely useless for me, but the 15" quad core would be sweet since I'm quite often running VM's. So the price, and the Keyboard killed it for me. I spend most of my days typing furiously when I do Database work and testing of applications, scripting, etc. I NEED a comfortable keyboard with good key travel (After testing the rMB keyboard, my typing speed decreased from about 110WPM on traditional keyboard to around 60wpm). And the removal of the ESC key is absolutely asanine. I spend hours a day in VIM. Escape key is the most required and used key
The question is, why to consider 5 days of sales.... well, most probably because it's the most "wow"-ing comparison, indicating that after 5 days the orders/day started slowing significantly.
To put it in context: The article also claims, that the new MBP outperformed the new MB 7 times "during its initial launch". This means that the indexed "initial launch" sales of MB was (1/7)x. Since the MB has an indexed sales of 1.22x since Apr 10 2015, this means that in the whole period of its sales it reached only 1.22/(1/7)=8.54 times its "initinal launch" sales.
Hence, the sales of Mac Books seem to be gigantically concentrated around its release and the sales will not be so impressive if longer period is considered... which is why this "bombastic" news was created the way it was created. With the MBP the concentration effect is perhaps even greater (the latter being only a guess of, course).
In any case, I can smell marketing -- Hello again, Phil ;-) -- all around.
To put it in context: The article also claims, that the new MBP outperformed the new MB 7 times "during its initial launch". This means that the indexed "initial launch" sales of MB was (1/7)x. Since the MB has an indexed sales of 1.22x since Apr 10 2015, this means that in the whole period of its sales it reached only 1.22/(1/7)=8.54 times its "initinal launch" sales.
Hence, the sales of Mac Books seem to be gigantically concentrated around its release and the sales will not be so impressive if longer period is considered... which is why this "bombastic" news was created the way it was created. With the MBP the concentration effect is perhaps even greater (the latter being only a guess of, course).
In any case, I can smell marketing -- Hello again, Phil ;-) -- all around.
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I'm guessing that the average "consumer" segment is mesmerized with the new kit. Methinks real Pro users are jumping ship. Apple probably doesn't care. I think Steve's Apple was all about the device/experience. I think Tim's Apple is all about sales, and in that, apparently, they are succeeding.
I don't care anymore either. If they sell well, great. I guess. I'm not buying one for reasons which many others have already expressed. When it's time for a new machine for me, however, I will not just be looking at Apple. So I'll vote with my wallet.
It's funny how people keep trying to find someway to put a negative spin on this. Despite all of the weeping and wailing by the tiny minority, it's a huge success, period. Apple knows their target customer and makes products that appeal to the masses.
I’m not willing to take it. I’ve had £2.5K with Tims name on it since December ’13, but they released that trashcan style Mac Am instead. Hopefully they’ll do the right thing.
So, we have:
Microsoft Surface Book: the one laptop that makes Macs seem reasonably priced - in fact the entry model is $1499, exactly the same as the entry-level 2016 MacBook Pro (the Surface only has 128GB SSD, but then there's the detachable screen gubbins). OK, fair do's - Microsoft are clearly pitching at Apple with this one so its certainly a relevant competitor. Its also clear that they're having difficulty persuading people to pay Apple prices for Microsoft kit. So, credit where credit's due - 10 points to Griffindor (I assume - I mean, Microsoft are definitely Sytherin, right?)
...and after that, the wheels fall off. A 10" Chromebook and 2 random Windows convertibles plucked from the 100s of such models being sold. Why were they chosen? What about the Dell XPS 13/15 which are the obvious direct competitors to the MacBook Pro?
If the new MBPs increase Apple's market share of all comparable (high performance, small form-factor) laptops then some crow will have to be eaten by some of us. However, if they're outselling <small eclectic selection of convertibles> then I think we'll be eating freshly-picked cherries.
There's also the question of what happens in important markets like education and universities, plus commercial users who make it worth the while of firms like Adobe to support the Mac platform. That will play out over the next year, since those users probably weren't watching the launch with credit cards in their hands.
To be fair to the original source: the linked article seems to be talking about former Apple users, lured away in 2014 by the promise of touch screens, lurking back to Apple rubbing their aching, hypertrophied gorilla arms - in which context the touchscreen/convertible models chosen make more sense.
NB: I think the new MBPs are great-looking machines - its the pricing, plus the gouging on the cables and adapters that everybody will need to bootstrap their USB-C workflow that I don't like.
The reason for this is that 5-10 years ago, Apple was a very different company than it is today, and is targeting a different segment.
the "Pro" devices used to be the high end performance for media / creative types, that also often featured expandibility, and far higher available specs than the non-pro.
I don't think this is a bad laptop. Far from it. Fantastic laptop, But this isn't some revolutionary innovative laptop that breaks the mould and changes the world. It's also not the most powerful. it's also not offering advanced features and functionality. It's a good laptop and good revision. But the soured grapes are coming from the fact that despite all that, they still called it a pro laptop, and raised the prices by almost $500
Thats making a LOT of us. and yes, maybe reserved to blogs and forums to suddenly go "nahhh". because that price raise suddenly changes the value proposition. With the new price, for what they are delivering, I no longer think that there's sufficient value in the rMBP to warrant its purchase
Well, a select few are laughing all the way to the bank. Anyway, I hope everyone who bought one gets a machine that will serve them well (or as best as can be considering).
Anyway, I hope everyone who bought one gets a machine that will serve them well (or as best as can be considering).