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I realize that Apple's PA Semi unit seems to be working on ARM-like processors now, but how hard would it be for them to pop out their own graphics processor?

Nearly impossible with Apple's resources. They have zilch knowhow in GPU design and only a minor share in PowerVR intellectual property (which applies mainly to cellphone graphics chips).

If a huge chip company like Intel can't do it "just like that", Apple can't do it either. And look at how Intel's try at high-end GPUs failed miserably (Larrabee)
 
At CES several vendors (ASUS I know for sure, I think DELL too) had products lined up with USB 3.0. I know it's wishful thinking at this point, but I may just wait for another refresh if they don't get USB 3.0 as I'm certain it will be the new standard in music devices as well as external drives. :(

Bearing in mind Apple sets the standards for music devices as they sell most of them I doubt it.
 
Hope there's Core i7, even as an option…Core i5 only would be a large relative downgrade from current MBP CPUs.


Don't hold your breath, you'll suffocate...

The mobile quad cores consume FAR too much power for a MBP-style notebook. All current notebooks with such a CPU are fat, noisy as hell and have an abysmal battery life. And no, Apple can't do magic.
 
Don't hold your breath, you'll suffocate...

The mobile quad cores consume FAR too much power for a MBP-style notebook. All current notebooks with such a CPU are fat, noisy as hell and have an abysmal battery life. And no, Apple can't do magic.

I have a mouse that says otherwise.:cool:

Couldn't resist!:D
 
17" - i7

Top end 15" - i5

Low end 15" - i3 or maybe core 2 duo high clock speed.

13" - Core 2 duo with high clock speed. Just a few thoughts.
 
Don't hold your breath, you'll suffocate...

The mobile quad cores consume FAR too much power for a MBP-style notebook. All current notebooks with such a CPU are fat, noisy as hell and have an abysmal battery life. And no, Apple can't do magic.

Not True.
The Mobile i5 and i7 (and i5) consume the same and less then previous Core 2 Duo's

Why do you think asus have a laptop on sale now with a 12 hour battery time? with a i7
 
To all those wishing for USB 3.0
It won't happen. Theres no need for it, and considering Intel have delayed USB 3.0 chipsets till 2011 i doubt you'll see any in a macbook untill next year.

There's actually a massive need for USB 3.0 because of external hard drives, especially since Apple dodged eSATA completely. Unfortunately, it is true that we can't expect it anytime soon. Intel's chipsets used to be really good a few years ago. Now they just plainly suck. ****** GPU + drivers, no USB 3.0, no SATA 6G, lack of PCI Express lanes etc.
Monopolies kill innovation... Nvidia's and AMD's chipsets are far far better in almost any respect, but Intel doesn't give out licenses for their new Nehalem based CPUs. (and now for the new Atom CPUs too... a lot of stagnation ahead)
 
I'm at peace with my purchase. I bought the original unibody MBP (15") and was annoyed with the bigger battery of the refresh, but I have no desire for this new one. realistically it won't play games well, and I'm not currently doing any heavy lifting on mine (my mini does DVD ripping/encoding overnight if necessary - speed isn't essential).
 
There's actually a massive need for USB 3.0 because of external hard drives, especially since Apple dodged eSATA completely. Unfortunately, it is true that we can't expect it anytime soon. Intel's chipsets used to be really good a few years ago. Now they just plainly suck. ****** GPU + drivers, no USB 3.0, no SATA 6G, lack of PCI Express lanes etc.
Monopolies kill innovation... Nvidia's and AMD's chipsets are far far better in almost any respect, but Intel doesn't give out licenses for their new Nehalem based CPUs. (and now for the new Atom CPUs too... a lot of stagnation ahead)

Yup, I know your feeling. I'm just saying, I wouldn't use USB 3, I'd take firewire any day with its super chain linking features and less CPU utilization. With most laptops now they seem to of dropped firewire entirely.
 
I'm actually in a big need of a new laptop, I meant to get one since a few months but I wanted to wait for this update. Unfortunately, I'm leaving to Budapest to study there for the next months on monday. I just called Apple to ask if it was possible to get a Canadian keyword within Hungary and they told me it was impossible.

Do you guys see a solution to this?
 
There are only 11 Core i3, Core i5 and Core i7 CPU's Intel has recently introduced that could possibly be used. Based on TDP, I would say Core i7 is out of the picture all together. Core i3 could be used in the White MB, or lower end MBP (i3-350M or i3-330M, 2.26ghz or 2.13ghz). However, I see Apple sticking with C2D for the white Macbook, and using Core i5 across their entire MBP line. Core i5 may not have as high base clock rates as Core i7, but they at least have turbo-boost and HT. If Core i7 is used, it will be used only in the 17 in initially. This said, this advert seems pretty realistic.
 
I'm actually in a big need of a new laptop, I meant to get one since a few months but I wanted to wait for this update. Unfortunately, I'm leaving to Budapest to study there for the next months on monday. I just called Apple to ask if it was possible to get a Canadian keyword within Hungary and they told me it was impossible.

Do you guys see a solution to this?
See if you can get a Hungarian keyboard and have it replaced with a Canadian keyboard once you return to Canada.
 
We sell now laptops with i3, i5, and i7 CPU's. Don't you think Apple will use the i7 cpu's for their macbook pro's? And the i5 for the macbook?

Nah, they'll probably use those as a differentiator: i7 on the 17" MBP, i5 on the 15" MBP, i3 on the Macbook and either i5 or i3 on the 13" MBP (probably lower end i5 to differentiate macbook and MBP: MB is i3 only, Pro is i5 to i7)
I realize that Apple's PA Semi unit seems to be working on ARM-like processors now, but how hard would it be for them to pop out their own graphics processor? I realize a lot of R&D would probably be spent on it.
Pretty much impossible.
wouldn't they use too much power?
They exist in the same thermal envelopes as the i5s, so no.

We're talking arrandale here (mobile) not Clarksdale (desktop)
The PC laptops with i3/i5/i7 use the new ATI videocards (ATI 5xxx), so why won't Apple??
because, though I hear the new ones are nice, historically ATI's mobile parts are junk.
Don't hold your breath, you'll suffocate...

The mobile quad cores consume FAR too much power for a MBP-style notebook. All current notebooks with such a CPU are fat, noisy as hell and have an abysmal battery life. And no, Apple can't do magic.

Arrandale is dual only, mobile i7s are dual cores not quads.
 
Don't hold your breath, you'll suffocate...

The mobile quad cores consume FAR too much power for a MBP-style notebook. All current notebooks with such a CPU are fat, noisy as hell and have an abysmal battery life. And no, Apple can't do magic.

I wouldn't mind a notebook that just turned off the extra cores when running on battery power. Cooling would still be an issue, though. At least a cooler big enough to handle quad core should run very quietly when only cooling two cores.
 
Could you order from Apple Canada when the new MBP gets delivered and have it picked up by a friend and then shipped to where you are?
 
Not True.
The Mobile i5 and i7 (and i5) consume the same and less then previous Core 2 Duo's

Why do you think asus have a laptop on sale now with a 12 hour battery time? with a i7

Oops I fell into Intel's naming trap. I assumed, all mobile i7 were quad cores (according to their desktop scheme), but well they aren't...
 
I wouldn't mind a notebook that just turned off the extra cores when running on battery power. Cooling would still be an issue, though. At least a cooler big enough to handle quad core should run very quietly when only cooling two cores.

Either way, you'd still get a fat and heavy MBP.
We all know how extremely allergic to fat Steve is ...
 
I don't have any faith in Apple to use any of the new processors in the MBP's, I can see Apple sticking with Core 2 Duo for.... ever. How many times did everyone excpet something new only to be stuck with C2D? As far as Blu-Ray... Eh, over rated in my opinion. Who buys media on disk anymore? :p
That was just a joke, so please, don't cry :rolleyes:
 
Seeing as it's all but announced and the leak comes from a intel training site.
http://gizmodo.com/5447089/intel-promotion-leaks-core-i5-macbook-pro-update

It seems that i5's are headed towards MacBook Pro's in time for Apples 26/27th announcement.


(note, I've checked with my Intel Retail Edge account and it is legit)
Start the specification rumors !

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It might be one giant mistake through Intel, but i doubt it, Time to cancel those orders

Sorry, but couldn't this just be a case of a lazy marketer assuming that MBP already had Intel's latest mobile processor?
 
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