New MacBook Pro Models Coming at WWDC, Suggests Leaker

If the redesigned MacBook Pros have these features, it will be a day 1 buy for me:
  • 1080p webcam
  • Magsafe charger
  • redesigned near-bezel-less display (similar to the Dell XPS)
Optional, but if it has it, all the better:
  • FaceID
  • 1 USB-A port (for flash drives)
  • WiFi 6
 
miq said:
No thanks, I'll stick with my 2015 15" MBP.
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I mean this 2021 MBP will much better than the 2015 MBP 15".
M1X - WAY better CPU and GPU
better thermals
battery life - Much better too
Unlike the butterfly era this MBP 2021 will have scissor switch keyboard
wifi 6, bluetooth 5.0
SD card, HDMI and MagSafe will be added back.

I am upgrading
 
anshuvorty said:
If the redesigned MacBook Pros have these features, it will be a day 1 buy for me:
  • 1080p webcam
  • Magsafe charger
  • redesigned near-bezel-less display (similar to the Dell XPS)
Optional, but if it has it, all the better:
  • FaceID
  • 1 USB-A port (for flash drives)
  • WiFi 6
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wifi 6 is already here on M1 macs
 
DeepIn2U said:
New chip in production in April and we’re to expect new products based on it half a season later?
- no thought to thorough testing under various extremes the chip would go through?
- no thought to creating and testing various motherboards/logic boards?
- no thought to production tests or variants?
- no thought to testing product colour variants before production?

April, currently it’s May, and next month it’ll be June at WWDC on the 7th/10th. heck a LARQ large fridge is taking 2mths from design to finalizing production (and it’s built out of recycled plastics except for 5mm glass lens, electronics for UV-C, battery and traditional filter packages). We’ve NEVER seen a production laptop, desktop, heck even an iPhone take 2 months from chip production to annoucement and shipping under 30 days.

I think the April chip production is going to fall or winter products, not these MBP to be announced in a few weeks.
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With the news today that production has started of the A15 chips for the iPhone (4 months ahead of launch), and the supposedly M2 entering production last month (a chip which Apple require less quantity of) it’s safe to assume an announcement will come at WWDC with shipping in July (3 months after production of the chips started).
 

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Still hope someone that isn't super conservative in their hardware department creates a Macbook Pro Duo with an OLED secondary touch screen like the Asus Zenbook Pro where you can use as a productive 2nd screen with or without Apple Pencil; manage iOS & iPad apps on, & so on.
 
miq said:
No thanks, I'll stick with my 2015 15" MBP.
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Dude, I love my 15" 2015 MBP too, just superior to the jokes they have released 2016-2018, but if the 2021 MBP still doesn't satisfy you, what's your plan and what do you miss? Intel won't come back, same for USB-A, but everything else though looks great. I know a lot of 2012-2015 owners who finally gonna upgrade, including myself.

Can't wait for the WWDC. I was about to leave the ship and get a XPS 15 instead. Luckily I kept patient.

Btw they keyboard (labeled 'magic') since the 16" MBP is pretty similar with the ones of the 2012-2015 MBPs.
 
familychoice said:
Keep reading stuff like this about the Intel 16”, but not my experience at all. Battery life is almost as good as when I bought it 15 months ago, no slow speed issues, and the only time it gets warm is when I’m charging and connected to an external monitor at the same time - otherwise it’s as cool as a cucumber. Yet it’s in use all day as my main work machine.

Considering Apple will only offer me about 25% of what I paid for it I’ll most likely keep it for a few more years, and it does the job perfectly anyway, but supplement it with an M1 (or the next version) desktop - most likely a Mini.
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Do you have dedicated GPU? The thing is, with external monitor attached there is a really stupid behaviour/bug that causes the GPU to run at 100% and draws 20W causing the heat and ventilators kicking in. Without external display or with the external display but lid closed (so still, only single monitor but bigger) the mac keeps cool & quiet.

I think that if it weren't for that I would probably just keep using my 2013 MBP as it's still quite capable... but yeah, heat + ventilators + throttling is just utterly bollocks.
 
James Godfrey said:
With the news today that production has started of the A15 chips for the iPhone (4 months ahead of launch), and the supposedly M2 entering production last month (a chip which Apple require less quantity of) it’s safe to assume an announcement will come at WWDC with shipping in July (3 months after production of the chips started).
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Unfortunately both pics of articles doesn't not state the actual 'Start Date' just when it's being reported. That is the key we need to know.

And yeah besides us going back and forth (disagreeing/agreeing) I'm ALL for a new 14" MBP higher performance Mac.
 
.wojtek said:
Do you have dedicated GPU? The thing is, with external monitor attached there is a really stupid behaviour/bug that causes the GPU to run at 100% and draws 20W causing the heat and ventilators kicking in. Without external display or with the external display but lid closed (so still, only single monitor but bigger) the mac keeps cool & quiet.

I think that if it weren't for that I would probably just keep using my 2013 MBP as it's still quite capable... but yeah, heat + ventilators + throttling is just utterly bollocks.
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I came across this a couple of days ago, which seems relevant: https://axu2.medium.com/solved-by-1...t-noisy-with-an-external-monitor-f8af19c30f81
 
DeepIn2U said:
Ah using credit, like most people ;) smart.


90 days from start of a brand new chip to product release? M1 was announced June 2020 https://www.apple.com/ca/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/

Apple announced M1 in November 2020
www.apple.com

Apple unleashes M1

Apple today announced the biggest leap forward for the Mac with M1, the first system on a chip designed specifically for the Mac.
www.apple.com

By my count that’s 5 months / 150 days not 3 months/90 days (July 1st month counted).
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You don't know what fab means. PRODUCTION. It went into PRODUCTION, as in being made for the product, in April. Just like TODAY the A15 is going into production for an iPhone being released in 90-100 days (all previous rumors pointed to iPhone 13 coming early in September, and now the fab date corresponds, yet again).
 
DeepIn2U said:
Ah using credit, like most people ;) smart.


90 days from start of a brand new chip to product release? M1 was announced June 2020 https://www.apple.com/ca/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/

Apple announced M1 in November 2020
www.apple.com

Apple unleashes M1

Apple today announced the biggest leap forward for the Mac with M1, the first system on a chip designed specifically for the Mac.
www.apple.com

By my count that’s 5 months / 150 days not 3 months/90 days (July 1st month counted).
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They didn't need 5 months to produce M1. They needed 5 months to get developers ready for an architecture transition.
 
.wojtek said:
Do you have dedicated GPU? The thing is, with external monitor attached there is a really stupid behaviour/bug that causes the GPU to run at 100% and draws 20W causing the heat and ventilators kicking in. Without external display or with the external display but lid closed (so still, only single monitor but bigger) the mac keeps cool & quiet.

I think that if it weren't for that I would probably just keep using my 2013 MBP as it's still quite capable... but yeah, heat + ventilators + throttling is just utterly bollocks.
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I just have the base model 16”.

To be honest the screen is big enough for daily use, so I rarely bother to connect it to an external monitor.

I’m keen to get an M1 Mini or iMac soon though, so I can give it a bit of a holiday, and save it for mobile use.
 
Apple is planning to reintroduce the MagSafe port, and the 2021 MacBook Pro models will feature an HDMI port and an SD card reader in addition to a trio of Thunderbolt/USB-C ports, and multiple color options are a possibility.

There will be no Touch Bar included, with Apple returning to a traditional row of function keys, and there will be a redesigned thermal system to accommodate the upgraded Apple silicon chips that the machines are expected to include.
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I still remember those buying into the 2016 MBP telling us how their USB-C only laptops will be future proof 🤣🤣
And Tim Cook speaking of the TouchBar as the next big revolution of laptops.

We win... We Win...
 
Is there a way to compare the upcoming MacBook Pros’ 16 or 32 graphics cores capabilities with PC graphic cards?
 
MacBH928 said:
I still remember those buying into the 2016 MBP telling us how their USB-C only laptops will be future proof 🤣🤣
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Any 15/16” mbp from 2016 to 2020 can still run four, 4K displays over any mix of connections you prefer to use.

so far we’re yet to see an Arm Macbook that supports more than one display.

those intel models still look pretty proofed 5 years later.
 
I still remember those buying into the 2016 MBP telling us how their USB-C only laptops will be future proof 🤣🤣
And Tim Cook speaking of the TouchBar as the next big revolution of laptops.
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Haha yep, the ones telling me "your 2015 is outdated, the new models are even slimmer, emoji bar is awesome, USB-C only is the future, we don't care about smaller batteries, believe in Apple they know what they're doing, blabla..."

In the end I kept my 2015 model, which I still regard as one of the best models of its era, while others struggled with dongle-life, failing keyboards, display flexgate, T2/BridgeOS issues, throttling, etc. on generally overpriced models which had barely any performance improvment until the 6-/8-core models in 2018. The 2019 release was pretty decent, as Apple finally listened, but the 2021 will be truly Pro again and I feel confident to finally make the upgrade. Know a lot of 2012-2015 owners who think the same. But lets wait the WWDC.
 
chucker23n1 said:
They didn't need 5 months to produce M1. They needed 5 months to get developers ready for an architecture transition.
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Again they needed 5 months for announcement due to:

chip design, manufacturing, parts to ensure testing before mass fab on wafers, waiting for sufficient supply for asembly with other chips on logic board, battery design and assembly, miniLED etc.

a LOT goes into a MBP and with chip design and manufacturing. So unless you have irrefutable proof linked - not a anxdirect press release I dont believe TD can sole chip manufacturer for apple can complete in 3-5mths.
 
DeepIn2U said:
Again they needed 5 months for announcement due to:

chip design, manufacturing, parts to ensure testing before mass fab on wafers, waiting for sufficient supply for asembly with other chips on logic board, battery design and assembly, miniLED etc.

a LOT goes into a MBP and with chip design and manufacturing. So unless you have irrefutable proof linked - not a anxdirect press release I dont believe TD can sole chip manufacturer for apple can complete in 3-5mths.
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It takes 2 months for hot lots to arrive from fab. 3 months for production lots.
 
DeepIn2U said:
Again they needed 5 months for announcement due to:

chip design, manufacturing, parts to ensure testing before mass fab on wafers, waiting for sufficient supply for asembly with other chips on logic board, battery design and assembly, miniLED etc.

a LOT goes into a MBP and with chip design and manufacturing. So unless you have irrefutable proof linked - not a anxdirect press release I dont believe TD can sole chip manufacturer for apple can complete in 3-5mths.
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Chip design occurred the years before. Manufacturing took a few months.

The announcement has absolutely no bearing on the schedule of the M1.
 
Stephen.R said:
Any 15/16” mbp from 2016 to 2020 can still run four, 4K displays over any mix of connections you prefer to use.

so far we’re yet to see an Arm Macbook that supports more than one display.

those intel models still look pretty proofed 5 years later.
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I am going to make a wild guess and say that most people who chose to buy a laptop do not want to run four 4K monitors, in fact most of them will just use the laptop's screen or 1 external screen.

If you use 4 screens you are probably a desktop person who should have bought a desktop machine.
 
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