Then the spec was finalized.
When and what computer was the first to supply integrated 2.1 port?
While this clearly a bandwidth and shared ram issue, I’d guess that 2.1 comes in M2. Ooor in M2max…
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New MacBook Pro Models Include HDMI 2.0 Port Instead of HDMI 2.1
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When and what computer was the first to supply integrated 2.1 port?
While this clearly a bandwidth and shared ram issue, I’d guess that 2.1 comes in M2. Ooor in M2max…
Yeah exactly my thoughts. We are definitely not the target audience for apple it seems. Either way I’ll hold on until next year. Not going to grab a new monitor just for it, it’s already expensive enough. I’ll be happy with my 3090/5950x for now. W11 isn’t actually bad.
Let’s face it: most mbp buyers are not content creator pros.
Pros don’t need a slot, they are able to find the best possible accessory or dongle for exactly fit their specific needs.
Card slot is for average users. Those who do not understand the alphabet game any beyond ”sd”.
And pros might use it for redundancy.
Pros don’t need a slot, they are able to find the best possible accessory or dongle for exactly fit their specific needs.
Card slot is for average users. Those who do not understand the alphabet game any beyond ”sd”.
And pros might use it for redundancy.
Okay, chill, I was asking for verification. I haven’t examined PC laptops in years and I know they used to not come with Thunderbolt for years after it was available.
It's the same chip with the same ram and display limitations.
These give more storage, and nothing more until the 14".
As a professional I don't spend my own money on my tools. With the current spending limits - that may change - I can't order a 13" pro for work, because it doesn't meet minimum requirements, and I can't order a 14", because it's over the budget.
Well, they are not capable of driving more than one external display for one, even in clamshell mode.
I am so freaking bummed. I was planning to use this so I could have 4k 120hz on my LG OLED TV....
The one small feature I was looking for and they didn't add it 😭😭😭
Do you guys think it's possible that there will be TB4 to HDMI 2.1 adapters available?
On the brightside I heard these are TB4 ports and not TB3, so maybe it's possible?
The M1 Mac Mini/Macbooks have TB3 ports and as far as I'm aware, TB3 to HDMI 2.1 adapters can't power 4k 120hz on Macs, but maybe the new TB4's will work?
The one small feature I was looking for and they didn't add it 😭😭😭
Do you guys think it's possible that there will be TB4 to HDMI 2.1 adapters available?
On the brightside I heard these are TB4 ports and not TB3, so maybe it's possible?
The M1 Mac Mini/Macbooks have TB3 ports and as far as I'm aware, TB3 to HDMI 2.1 adapters can't power 4k 120hz on Macs, but maybe the new TB4's will work?
I read that these new Macbook Pros have TB4 ports and not TB3 ports, so I'm being optimistic and hoping that there will be a TB4 to HDMI 2.1 adapter that works.
As far as I'm aware all the previous M1 Macs had TB3 ports so maybe that's why no one could get 4k 120hz running on their OLED TV's.
So much nonsense here. Luckily you don't speak for us and even less for Apple.
Their decision to bring back a more variety of ports was good. You only lose one of four TB ports. You gain three handy ports in return, one of which covers charging, done before by one of those TB ports anyway. The broad majority of the userbase + upcoming reviews will support this decission. The same goes for better cooling, physical function keys and function over design in general. Macbook Ive 2016 is history, Macbook Pro 2021 is back.
Which would mean your webcam is also in the body since they'd be part of the same module...
Well you can run 4K120HDR via USB-C to HDMI with these MacBook Pros and based on projections, that "fake IGPU" is not that far behind the 3060.
It's an explanation by people who understand transistor design are putting forward to explain the use of HDMI 2.0 instead of 2.1.
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Not sure what you are trying to say, but newer Macs with HDMI 2.0 ports (including the M1 Mini) support HDR. I see no reason why the new MBP wouldn't.
Play HDR video on Mac - Apple Support
Support for high dynamic range (HDR) video, such as HDR movies and TV shows from Apple or other providers, requires the latest version of macOS, a compatible Mac model, and an HDR10-compatible display, TV, or projector.
I would love it if they did because that would mean 6 channels instead of 4 which would mean an extra TB port on top of the 2.1 upgrade, but I would still rather have 6 TB ports and zero HDMI/SD!
External rigs are still the way to go if you are producing 8K content. However, since most people use 8K to crop down to 4K or lower, and since GOOD 8K monitors are rare/expensive it makes sense there is no support yet. If you can afford to own a performance 8K monitor for video editing you can afford the external rig to power it, it will be a drop in the bucket compared to all the storage costs for all those minutes
I am sorry you are stuck in that position. Would you be able to get the 13" Pro and then a basic docking station? You could get up to three external displays for about $100
Do the TB ports support 4K at 120HZ? Iv'e seen that asked a few times in this thread, with no answer.
It is only going to work with displays with DP 1.4 with DSC. It isn't going to work with hdmi 2.1 TVs or monitors.
I don't want to say it is a dealbreaker for many, but disappointing omission to not support hdmi 2.1 despite having physical HDMI port.
Since the M1 chip in supported it with a special cable, I would think that the M1 Pro/Max would as well. Not sure if the same cable limitation would apply.
I was looking forward to driving an 8K TV for a monitor. It looks like that won’t be supported—definitely not via HDMI but looks like the Thunderbolt 4 ports also don’t support it? Or will I be pleasantly surprised?I would love it if they did because that would mean 6 channels instead of 4 which would mean an extra TB port on top of the 2.1 upgrade, but I would still rather have 6 TB ports and zero HDMI/SD!
External rigs are still the way to go if you are producing 8K content. However, since most people use 8K to crop down to 4K or lower, and since GOOD 8K monitors are rare/expensive it makes sense there is no support yet. If you can afford to own a performance 8K monitor for video editing you can afford the external rig to power it, it will be a drop in the bucket compared to all the storage costs for all those minutes
I think you should err on the side of "pleasantly surprised"
I think we will need to get more adoption into 8K content to see MFG prioritize this. Even in my pro video workflows, I don't ever produce 8K content, I just crop to 4K or 2K content, allowing for more framing compositions. Granted I am not producing movies. But producing content for business I barely get asked for 4K, most often just 1080 or 2K. So likely a ways out, but I will have my fingers crossed for you!
The TB4 standard supports 8K @ 30Hz (likely using DSC) and the M1 family can handle 6K @ 60Hz so I would think they could do 8K @ 30Hz. However, there could be issues with the TV side of the equation (some seem to be implying that USB4/TB4 to HDMI cables do not work with the HDMI 2.1 connectors on 8K TVs).
I think the Thunderbolt 4 spec actually supports 8K @ 60hz. DSC is needed for 60hz but not 30hz, but since Apple’s 6K XDR display already needs DSC, I don’t think that’s the issue. It’s more about display buffer size in hardware (is it only up to 6K?) and OS support.