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here in brazil the 15'' 2.7 base model costs USD 7500 ! seriously...i dunno what to think....rape !
 
It just goes to show how little people understand innovation. The touch bar is going to be very, very popular. I look forward to the same people claiming this was a boring presentation later saying that PC manufacturer X's version of the touch bar is so much better.
Amazing how much you got out of my one sentence.
 
Had my retina mbp 2015 up for sale at £850 this evening in anticipation for the new models. UK prices are insane!

Paid £859 for my basic model (with 256 gb upgrade) last April using the academic discount.

Regardless of the crazy price for the brand new models, if I wanted to buy my exact same laptop tonight, including the academic discount, it would cost me £1,286.40. So in 18 months my laptop has appreciated over £400

On the flip side, its added about 50% value to my existing laptop in the space of about an hour... Madness

Safe to say, its not on sale for £850 anymore
 
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Ordered the 13" 512 gig Space Grey

The size specs and close to one pound lighter made the deal.

I have the 2015 12" rMB and while I love the size and weight I really need the VM (virtual machine) capability and it just doesn't cut it.

What under whelmed me in the keynote is how poorly Tim Cook actually spoke. He constantly looked down at his prompter for info and they really could have cut to the chase a bit quicker, new MBPs simple.

Additionally I noticed the audience was mainly old guys like me. Where were all the hip millennial Apple users who make all those cool videos and audio compilations?

I use Final Cut Pro and I'm sure the new touchbar will make some things easier, but I normally use the Magic Mouse and its ability to track with finger touch. One wish from Final Cut (of course this is appropriate because they spent time on it in the keynote), the ability to easily change storage locations and export the whole project.

I'm looking forward to:
  • More speed
  • Better VM
  • Longer battery life
 
I wonder what will be next? No trackpad. Just use your eyes and "blink" to click.
Followed by no keyboard. Type with your thoughts.

And to top it all, they will call it the Ipadbook Pro Retina with Touchscrollwheel 2.0
 
Did some hard thinking on the touch bar... I think Apple has something here that is going to be the first real new thing in laptops since I got my first one back in the 90's. Sure, things have changed since then - better screens, removing CD drives, going to SSD's, different ports. But all of that has been evolutionary - just a small improvement on the existing technology. It hasn't been something truly new.

So now we get rid of the F-keys. Sure, some people complain about that... but honestly, aside from using them to control my debugger in Eclipse, they're used almost entirely for their "secondary" purposes - brightness and volume control, etc. So why should we hold on to the relics?

And then the touch bar. I think it has the potential to eliminate the menu's that have been at the top of our windows and screens since the GUI was invented. It gives us a different way to interact with our computers, bridging the gap between tablet and laptop. You don't want to be poking at your laptop screen to control it, it feels flimsy and you have to constantly adjust the angle of the screen as you push it away from you with every tap. Plus, every time you reach up to touch the screen, you block part of it with your hand. Here, you have something that's not going to move, as it's on the base, just like the keyboard. You have an area dedicated to menus and controls, giving your screen more room for your media and actual content you're creating or viewing. And you keep your hands down and out of the way so your view isn't impeded.

And like the iPod, I think this is going to evolve past what it is today. What happens if you add in a taptic engine behind the touch bar? You'll be able to "feel" keys as you move your finger over them! Why not bring the touch bar down to be a big old rectangle next to the touchpad? They might end up doing that down the road to improve the ergonomics of using it and to give it more room.

I think the most important part (and most distincly Apple part) of this is that Apple's learned from other failures out there. Companies have tried introducing touch sensitive displays before. Some have replaced the entire keyboard, and failed. Some have resulted in moving other hardware around and failed. Some have had limited support from third parties and failed. Apple is taking a small, carefully measured step in a new direction for laptop controls. 10 years from now we'll wonder how we ever lived without it.
 
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All you guys who keep saying that due to the ridiculous base prices (a $400 increase to the already expensive Pros across the line) of the 13" and the 15" Pros that you "think" or are "probably" done with Apple, you are just kidding yourselves. Might as well throw your wallets, arms and legs at them. You are either done with them or you are not. There are other, cheaper, better options out there.
 
I would never buy a 13" laptop, thus I would go for the 15". Unfortunately in my country it's priced at 2699 euro.

Too expensive which is a shame, but my next one will be Windows.
 
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Think my 2015 MacBook Pro can last me at least 5 more years

Well so my 2012 MacBook Pro will last me at least another 4 to 5 years it looks And then I will officially have a my first non Amiga non Mac computer, a HP or Dell Hackintosh. Thank you Tim. Never thought I would do this.
 
To use a new MacBook Pro at work and on the road, I'd need an adapter for:
  • USB wireless keyboard
  • USB wireless mouse
  • USB desk fan (yes, awesome)
  • Ethernet (our Wi-fi is too slow)
  • HDMI (external monitor)
  • iPhone (charging overnight)
  • iPad (charging overnight)
No thanks. Traveling for work is a pain in the ass enough as it is without having to worry about additional dongles and adapters.

I don't even know where to start...
 
Did some hard thinking on the touch bar... I think Apple has something here that is going to be the first real new thing in laptops since I got my first one back in the 90's. Sure, things have changed since then - better screens, removing CD drives, going to SSD's, different ports. But all of that has been evolutionary - just a small improvement on the existing technology. It hasn't been something truly new.

Yep. Some people can't see the forest for the trees. It's a very useful development and completely unique to the market currently.
 
Young p
Ordered the 13" 512 gig Space Grey

The size specs and close to one pound lighter made the deal.

I have the 2015 12" rMB and while I love the size and weight I really need the VM (virtual machine) capability and it just doesn't cut it.

What under whelmed me in the keynote is how poorly Tim Cook actually spoke. He constantly looked down at his prompter for info and they really could have cut to the chase a bit quicker, new MBPs simple.

Additionally I noticed the audience was mainly old guys like me. Where were all the hip millennial Apple users who make all those cool videos and audio compilations?

I use Final Cut Pro and I'm sure the new touchbar will make some things easier, but I normally use the Magic Mouse and its ability to track with finger touch. One wish from Final Cut (of course this is appropriate because they spent time on it in the keynote), the ability to easily change storage locations and export the whole project.

I'm looking forward to:
  • More speed
  • Better VM
  • Longer battery life
Young people can't afford those new stupid prices, thats why. Apple is well and truely a lifestyle, fashion brand and more fool them....they will fall.
 
So in theory shouldn't the Razor Core work with these new macs since its TB 3 also?
It's stuff like this that make me really excited for TB3. I would totally go for the 13 inch without a discreet GPU and just get a PCIe dock.

If I were in the market for a new laptop, which I'm not.
 
The price point is tough to take, what makes it worse is the up sell - £2,349.00 for the 15" and it only has 256MB Storage. I'm quite well off and can afford it, but I've decided to stop feeding the beast. Apple's avarice is disgusting to behold.
 
I just bought a G5 Mac Pro for $15CDN. Time for a new Hacintosh and what better case is there? Or maybe a return to Linux on the desktop. Apple will be back, but I think they'll have to experience the full economics of their trajectory. I'm settling in for a loooong haul.
 
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After seeing this keynote I have to say... I'm happy that there aren't new iMacs. So we can buy an iMac now which actually has USEFUL ports (no need for 5 adapters here) and a decent price tag. Can't wait to see the new iMac with only four USB-c ports and an headphone jack which might start at just $3999 or something like this.

I've been a really hard apple fan, now I'm just disappointed. Time for Tim to leave. Maybe Craig Federighi as next CEO? Somehow I have the feeling that he cares more for us consumers than Tim.
 
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Notice what was missing when he said "Mac lineup"?
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I thought the exact same thing. Every single Mac family photo doesn't include the Mac Pro. Even ones with the Mac Mini don't have the Mac Pro shown. On the Apple web site, on the Mac information page, there's a block about every single Mac, apart from the Mac Pro.

The MP is such an incredible piece of engineering. Why Apple aren't shouting about it (or upgrading it) baffles me. I know some people have always moaned about the lack of expandability, however that's never been a problem for most users. You can plug in the storage and peripherals that make sense to you.

I love my MP. Best Mac I've ever owned. The way things are going, it might also be the last.
 
So they Kill the MacBook air

no, they didn't kill it, they are just letting it suffer a little longer, like they did with the old 13" non-retina macbook pro

You should be storing data on two externals: one has a primary, the second as a back-up. A 256GB boot/application drive is plenty storage. I have a 512GB drive in my 2014 MacBook Pro, and I have 406GB available with no shortage of graphics and photography applications and fonts loaded onto my machine.

even with storing data external - it can add up pretty fast - having mail and time machine do their shenanigans, installing some big apps, storing a few movies/audiobooks,... 256GB is workable, but 512 is comfortable - ssd prices surely have at least halved since the last & cheaper iteration of the mbp, haven't they?
 
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