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Why do you say "find"? You can customize what's on there and where it is. No different than knowing where to look on the screen.

Memorizing where it would be has nothing to do with it. If I'm looking at the screen I'm going to have to look away from the screen to find to "find' the button to press. That means a context switch. Context switching is expensive.

Maybe you are able to remember where every button is for every program you use and press it without tactile feedback.
 
Why add an extra display/touchbar when you already have a device with a display and touchpad?

- You'll need to learn and remember icons (a lot!!)
- You'll cover most of the touchbar display with your fat finger
- Switching between MacBook and iMac or Mac Pro will be two different ways if working
- Functionality in the touchbar you'll never find or understand

Conclusion: Touchbar is the right mouse button on steroids.

I don't like it and where the hell is the new iMac?!
 
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Well... that's a bad sign. Looks like they will be changing their name soon to Apple iPhone Company™ because they stopped giving a damn about the mac users. I recently built my own PC and have found myself using my mac less and less. Microsoft and google are both moving forward and the only thing in apple that is moving is the prices (up).
 
quite underwhelming tbh. gone were the innovations, the wow factors that make Apple great.

I will give apple one more year, 2017 you better don't let me down.
 
Just looked at the Apple Store in U.K. and completely shocked, SHOCKED at starting price of these new MacBooks.

Long time visitor of this site and I just created a profile to say I am a customer of Apple for 14 years and happy to Apple tax but these new MacBook pros mean I think I'm out of the market..
 
This has easily been the worst Mac reveal in recent memory.

It just goes to show how little people understand innovation. The touch bar is going to be very, very popular. I look forward to the same people claiming this was a boring presentation later saying that PC manufacturer X's version of the touch bar is so much better.
 
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Duo-Core??? Intel Iris 540???

Seriously, that's awful value. Thinner isn't better. The processor is outdated, the graphics car is a joke. I honestly don't know what they are thinking.

Cook & Ive, "its thinner, lighter, smaller, does not generate much heat, and lasts all day." They are selling to people that don't use computers for anything really taxing. If you are a real computer users, you are going to have to go to Windows, linux, or hackintosh.
 
Also, anyone wondering how pro app developers will treat the Touch Bar given that their app still has to work on all regular Macs that don't have that little gimmick?

Pro app developers will be catering for Windows 10. They won't have any time to waste on the Emoji Bar.
 
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Actually, Brexit accounts for around 13% currency drop. This price increase based on new pricing is 35%.

Not really, at the start of the year the GBP/USD rate was around $1.55, it's currently $1.22. It dropped in the run up to the referendum on fears of leaving but spiked just before when polls showed that it looked like we were going to stay in the EU. It's closer to a 22% drop, but then we've also got VAT on top of that so the drop is compounded by the fact that we've got a 20% uplift on that 22% currency difference, so the actual price change due to Brexit is close to 27%.
 
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Thinner, but now I'd have to carry around a bunch of dongles to do anything. So it's really just more of a pain. How about a not-"thinnest" model for the rest of us who actually need to use these?

Well, at least they kept the headphone jack.
 
Why did Apple bother doing a 90 minute show to give us one new app and an overpriced touch bar?
Earth to Tim, Phil and Jony: notebook computers spend at least 99.9% of their life sitting on a horizontal surface. That 0.1% (or less) that they're being moved from place to place only matters if they're too heavy or bulky to do so and we passed that point years ago. By spending millions making the new MBP thinner they've forced the price to increase, something absolutely no customer wanted and quite possibly something no shareholder wanted either.
 
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I like the idea of the touch bar, but if it's only going to be available on a small minority of the MacBooks sold, which in turn are a small and declining minority of the laptops and PCs sold, is anyone (other than Apple) going to bother developing applications that make use of it?
 
If you are a real computer users, you are going to have to go to Windows, linux, or hackintosh.

Yeah, because effortlessly editing 4k video and running two external 5k monitors isn't a real computer use. Did you even watch the presentation? Silly question probably.
 
Cards on the table - I earn just over £250k per year, have no kids and a relatively small mortgage. I also want a new MacBook Pro.

But those prices are madness. Although I can afford it, I just can't justify £1,750 on something I use to send a few emails and browse the web.

Guess I'll wait for the updated MacBook (which I really hoped they're announce today. That was a lot of fluff for some MacBook Pros).

And it has a headphone jack. What are Apple doing?! Incredible fragmentation across their product range now.
I imagine you are smart/educated enough to know that you don't become wealthy by throwing £1,750 around on a regular basis. As well, as others pointed out, the specs are insulting at that price.
 
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Thinner, but now I'd have to carry around a bunch of dongles to do anything. So it's really just more of a pain. How about a not-"thinnest" model for the rest of us who actually need to use these?

Well, at least they kept the headphone jack.
There is not enough courage
 
was thinking I'll upgrade my 2015 13 inch pro but after seeing this presentation I'll gladly keep it for a couple more years, at least until usb-c adoption is much higher, as it is now i just can't live without normal usb and sd card slot, and i refuse to carry a bunch of dongles. and they removed the magsafe, it was the best charging port on any laptop. the touchpad got bigger when it didn't need to at all, that space would have been much more usefull for a bigger keyboard, whicg if it is anything like the 12 inch Macbook, is a clear downgrade from the current keyboard we have. and i can't believe hiw much time they spent on the touch bar, it's a tiny touch screeb above a keyboard, get a grip apple. and also don't like the new apple where they have to bash old technology for no reason when they want to replace it. firsr the headphone jack and now function keys?
 
Who lot of crying about Pro models from people that aren't pro users in here. If you don't spend 4+ hours a day in pro apps, you aren't considered a pro user.

Real pros don't cry about the price because these machines help them get their job done faster and better. If these new machines shave a couple hours after their work in a month, they've paid for themselves even if they cost 2x as much.

Problem is that this isn't a pro machine. LAST generation CPU, crap GPU, big ugly bezel. It doesn't have the grunt to be called a pro device.
 
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