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New MacBook Pro Still Planned for October, USB-C MacBook Air Also in the Works
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That's true. But the internal SD card reader could fail just as easily as an external reader.
The difference is... you can pick up a new external SD card reader for around $10... whereas you'd have to send your entire Macbook Pro off to Apple to get the internal reader fixed.
I want this rMBP badly, but realistically speaking if they keep stripping ports, its bad for users. 4 USB-C ports? There isn't even a USB-C to thunderbolt converter? What about all the thunderbolt cases we invested into? Market barely has any USB-C devices, converters, cables and it's totally sketchy between versions.. you want 3.1. A better putting consumer first business choice would have been 2 USB-c 3.1 ports, SD, Mag safe and a thunderbolt port
While I don't totally agree with you... At premium prices you expect top of the notch tech. But even without a processor refresh there is still lot's of room for improvements. More ram, bigger SSD, less bezel, Oled screens/retina screens for the whole line up and more bang for the buck is one of them. At least they should lower the prices of the outdated tech. That's what all manufacturers do with customers in their mind. The gear sold with today prices is arrogance and greediness. Also when they care so little about their computer line up, it would be nice they had some kind of a roadmap. You'll never know if it will become obsolete or if you wasted your investment.
- It will probably have 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports, not any that are only USB-C. You can be completely sure it will have at least some Thunderbolt ports.
You just need a Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adaptor (which already exists) to use your current Thunderbolt peripherals.
(maflynn, case in point about the article being confusing.)
What I would like to see is:
MagSafe, HDMI, and SDCard slots in MacBook Pros - with 13", 15" and 17" screen sizes. However, a very big price reduction would be nice seeing as how the 15" MacBook Pro with 500 gb costs 4,113.07 USD whereas the Dell, with the same screen size and storage cost 612.740 USD that I'm writing this on.
And then I would like to see a 12" MacBook, 14" MacBook and a 16" MacBook.
MagSafe, HDMI, and SDCard slots in MacBook Pros - with 13", 15" and 17" screen sizes. However, a very big price reduction would be nice seeing as how the 15" MacBook Pro with 500 gb costs 4,113.07 USD whereas the Dell, with the same screen size and storage cost 612.740 USD that I'm writing this on.
And then I would like to see a 12" MacBook, 14" MacBook and a 16" MacBook.
Thunderbolt is an interface. Its a list of commands and responses essentially, a language for hardware to use, implemented both in software and in a controller chip. It can be implemented on many types of ports, the physical port is mostly irrelevant. In the 1 and 2 iterations, it was implemented on the MiniDisplay port. In the 3 iteration, it is implemented on the USB-C port.
USB is both a port and an interface, designed together from the start. Same with DisplayPort. Thunderbolt is different in that it is just an interface.
So to be accurate: it is a USB-C port, which supports the Thunderbolt 3 interface.
I was thinking the same thing. I can't believe they would release a new computer with a non retina display in almost 2017, but I guess it's possible if they want to keep the same price point. I think prices need to drop all around to be honest. $799 for base Air with no retina display, $999 for base Macbook, $1,199 for base Macbook Pro.
The TB2 is being superseded by TB3/USB-C connector. BTW, adapters exist, even though they are quite expensive at the moment. As to offering legacy USB ports alongside the USB-C: I think there is more to this. Of course its more convenient to the customers to have the legacy ports available. However, at the same time it allows the industry to ignore the new tech and just stick to the inferior old solutions. What I have always admired about Apple is how aggressively they push for new stuff. This forces the industry to keep up. The quicker the industry converts to USB-C, the better for the customer. The funny thing is that strictly speaking, going all USB-C is not a good move for Apple, as they would certainly loose more traditional customers. But thats what makes Apple Apple. They are willing to take risks. And really, without Apple we would probably still work on plastic bricks with low-res displays.
that's due to a massive strategic mistake they did in 2011, and not because of the actual ( in 2016 ) quality of the software itself. They released a brand new, entirely re-written FCP with many new paradigms, but what was essentialy a beta software where many essential features not implemented yet. And instead of say, releasing it as public beta for people to get used to it and only remove FCP7 once FCPX is feature complete, they just released it and shelved FCP7 immediately from the stores.
There is an interesting interview with Randy Ubillos (head of development for FCP, now retired ) that there was fights between marketing departments and the dev dpt about how to handle the transition, and the marketing guys won.
The transition was of course so bad that most editing pros started considering moving to another platform, and Adobe and Avid seized the opportunity to make price offers to users who wanted to move out. Apple back pedaled a few months later bringing back FCP7 along FCPX, but that damage was done. By the time FCPX became a solid tool, a lot of users moved already to Premiere or Avid.
Apple did seem however to have leaned a lesson from this, as the FCPX team became unusually communicative about FCPX's roadmap ( which is absolutely unheard of in Apple's history of ultra-secrecy ).
But honestly; I don't think that matters. What matters is the OS and the hardware to run it. There are plenty of great audio/video software developpers out there. Black Magic is releasing some killer editing/compositing/color correction software these days that's surpassing Adobe, Avid or Apple .
Would anyone say you can't make professional audio/video work on Windows machines because Microsoft doesn't make any professional audio , video or photo software theselves ? I don't think so.
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What was the last real 'Pro' MacBook then? Certainly the unibody model can't be one, at it used same(or lower)-tier parts compared to the rMBP. Pre-unibody? PowerBook?
Do you want a new computer or just an apple fan event presenting a product and Tim Cook saying an innovative product and asking for sorry for the delay?
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At this point I have been told WWDC 2015 (nope), Sept 2015 (nope), March 2016 (from an insider! ...nope), April 2016 (from an insider! nope), WWDC 2016 (nope)...
Apple you got 5 chances. Gave up and bought a PC.
Apple you got 5 chances. Gave up and bought a PC.
Windows would be my first platform of choice for professional audio, video or photo work. Windows is probably the OS that offers you best combination of performance/stability and affordability if all you want to use is one or two specialised applications. I do not understand why Mac is pushed into this 'content creation' niche. Those times are long gone and there is nothing wrong about it. OS
Just curious but in 2015 what was wrong with the current rMBP mid-2015 edition? It's still a beast, best trackpad on the market that then incorporated Force Touch, fastest SSD controller on the market, upgraded discrete graphics if you needed, and you can get it for $1699 USD from Apple certified refurbished.
That's life cycles of products. As "things" are supposed to be done differently, it will always leave those behind, who at first don't want to follow. (Or spend the money, as they have lots of printers, hard drives, cd burners etc., i.e. everything works)
For example, I love my 17" MBP and it has every possible connection port, but they don't make it any more and it's limited to 6 GB,
Also have a 2014 15.4 MBP , which is already missing FW.
So, as long as one wants to hold on to old stuff, one has to research for alternatives, instead of complaining.
MBPs are supposed to be for on the go consumers and not supposed to be nailed to desktops.
Therefore, less ports, as nobody carries all the external devices with them and even printing is possible over the air.
Now, once hooking it up at a desktop the solution would be to get an OWC dock, which has EVERY port Apple ever took out, incl. FW, HDMI, audio (should they remove that) etc.etc.
One plug for all, no dongles. If you have a home and office set up, buy two!
Do I need a new MBP? No, all my stuff works. That's the fact for most consumers.
Do I want a new MBP? Yes, you bet, but I am capable of waiting to see what they offer.
If the price is not right and the set up, I'll wait a little longer and use that wait to figure out how to make the new MBP versions work for what I do.
Regardless of what they will offer, there will be plenty of posters already complaining, without having even seen one new MBP.
About the only gripe that is valid in my book is that updating their entire line has taken way too long. That entire Mac focused division doesn't seem to exist.
For a fast changing industry even Apple could at least address memory chip limitations, put in the latest chips and do away with 5400 rpm HDs , include better graphic chips (at least offer them as a BTO) and most of the complaints would already have gone away.
Nothing in my mind is wrong with it. I just bought the 2.5 15" model knowing the new one is coming. I just like the current model and will look for a price match over the next few weeks to save even more
They've had that for years: it's called "WiFi" or "Bluetooth".
Meanwhile, my 17" MBP was easily dragged off the table by its MagSafe cable (it was due to a dog, who could be forgiven for tripping over the cable wrong) so its not going to be much use on a new ultra thin'n'light MacBook Air unless they make the magnet so weak that it also gets dislodged by a light breeze.
As for USB-C: what USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 really needs is a locking connector so that your 20 TB external hard drive array doesn't get disconnected mid-write because the cable gets yanked.
Contrive not to route cables where people are walking - its the only way to be sure.
It depends entirely on the segment you're in. For 3D software, I would say PC/Windows hands down. There is no clear advantage to the Mac in that area, and less software available, although it's now changing.
For audio, macs are still superior when it comes to audio drivers for audio interfaces. There are very few interface manufacturers that provide headache-free drivers on the PC side. There is a reason specifically assembled PC for pro-audio manufacturers thrive. You can basically walk into an Apple Store, buy a mac of the shelf, get back to your studio, plugin your interface or DSP ( like Protools HD, or UAD ), and start working right away. On the PC side, some high end audio interface/Dsp manufacturers have simply stopped making them available for PC. Too much headaches and support needed.
For video editing or compositing, it's kind of split. High end compositing is actually more prevalent on Linux than Windows or Macs. Video editing mostly because of the stability of the hardware input/output available for the Mac. See this for example : https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products
Pc/windows has the disadvantage of so many internal hardware combinations, and if you add to that drivers to work with the myriad of external peripherics pros need, it's just massive headaches.
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