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New MacBook Pros Don't Include Backlit Apple Logo or Power Extension Cable
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No glowing logo, no startup chime. Apple are removing all of the Mac's iconic features. Plus they're not including an extension cable because they can charge you more for that later.
I really hate Apple right now and anybody who still has their back after the crap we've seen this year is not thinking straight.
I really hate Apple right now and anybody who still has their back after the crap we've seen this year is not thinking straight.
Wouldn't a better question be "Why?".
Think about it. It costs Apple nothing to keep the startup chime. Then go to the trouble of removing it and inviting all that backlash for no gain? Clearly someone believed there was some merit to it.
Same with the glowing logo. The MacBook showed that there was a price to making the display as thin as possible, and that was the iconic glowing Apple logo.
But I guess it's just easier to spew irrational hate.
I read that Apple removed the startup chime because the MBP automatically boots up now when the lid is raised. This allows the user to turn on the computer in a quiet room now without anyone hearing the chime.
None of my MacBooks have ever made the boot chime when waking from sleep. Must be some other reason.
That'e because they are sleeping. No MB has ever had the chime when waking from sleep.
THis is talking about the startup chime when booting up the computer. The computer now boots up when raising the lid automatically without having to press the power button. Websites are saying that is the reason the chime has been removed so it does not disturb anyone when the computer boots up in a quiet room.
If Steve Jobs would of allowed a laptop to go out the door without the ability to connect an iPhone/iPad natively without an adapter, we'd all be saying he'd of lost the plot. He was always about experience throughout the product. Not just a few elements.
We're starting to see Apple lose that train of thought from this version of MacBook. MagSafe gone. Multiple I/Os (without adapters) gone. The iconic backlit logo gone. Longer AC extension lead gone. Even if this is a majaor change in direction, no-one at Apple has said why it's a good one.
This is probably true.
Then again there is a simple solution: include a $0.1 USB-C -> Lightning cable with every iPhone.
The forums is essentially full of people criticising each and every one of Apple's moves, with no one bothering to actually take a step back and ask themselves just why Apple might have done things the way they have.
Everyone believes it is nothing more than a coldly calculated move by Apple to cut costs and increase margins.
Would you believe any of the Apple executives even if they were standing right in front of you explaining to you why?
Is this a reaction to the Apple staff? Because this is exactly how I think about them.
If Apple made the surface studio people would moan.
They would wonder why the computer part is separate when the imac is all in one. They would say that they didnt want the screen to be so thin if it meant the computer part would be separate.
They would say the Surface studio is way under powered for $3,000 machine.
They would say the puck is nice, but what professional is really going to actually use that puck?
They would say what are the fonts so small on photoshop and why it there's still so much of the OS that isnt designed for touch or why there are at least 3 or 4 places to go in Windows to change the same settings (add remove programs/features etc..)
They would say why does it need a virus checker running? Why cant it deal with DPI stuff properly. Why does it have to reboot when I change DPI?
But it's a Microsoft device. And MS is now the tool that I use to beat Apple around the head with because Apple isnt making me feel warm and fuzzy anymore. So I will not mention any of MS's failures or inadequacies because it doesn't serve my purpose of beating up Apple.
At the end of the day, I think the new devices are too expensive. But when you are the best, you are the best. Pay up or shut up. If they weren't the best they couldn't (and wont get away with) these prices.
Time will tell. But I'm willing to bet that every Apple product they released last week will be more useful, usable and just a better machine on the whole than any equivalent machine from their competitors. Primarily because Mac OS and it's integrated, opinionated approach to the world is just better than Windows for lots of people. They make machines for users to use, not orgasm over spec numbers...
They would wonder why the computer part is separate when the imac is all in one. They would say that they didnt want the screen to be so thin if it meant the computer part would be separate.
They would say the Surface studio is way under powered for $3,000 machine.
They would say the puck is nice, but what professional is really going to actually use that puck?
They would say what are the fonts so small on photoshop and why it there's still so much of the OS that isnt designed for touch or why there are at least 3 or 4 places to go in Windows to change the same settings (add remove programs/features etc..)
They would say why does it need a virus checker running? Why cant it deal with DPI stuff properly. Why does it have to reboot when I change DPI?
But it's a Microsoft device. And MS is now the tool that I use to beat Apple around the head with because Apple isnt making me feel warm and fuzzy anymore. So I will not mention any of MS's failures or inadequacies because it doesn't serve my purpose of beating up Apple.
At the end of the day, I think the new devices are too expensive. But when you are the best, you are the best. Pay up or shut up. If they weren't the best they couldn't (and wont get away with) these prices.
Time will tell. But I'm willing to bet that every Apple product they released last week will be more useful, usable and just a better machine on the whole than any equivalent machine from their competitors. Primarily because Mac OS and it's integrated, opinionated approach to the world is just better than Windows for lots of people. They make machines for users to use, not orgasm over spec numbers...
Well how about allowing the user to choose what they want? Typical Apple forcing their ways on you.
I understand and agree with the extension cord removal, it was a waste and they rarely go bad as oppose to the other part of the charger that frays. They're pretty cheap to find, you don't have to go to Apple for them. Take them from old chargers...
I hate the fact that the logo doesn't light up but if it's a technical limitation, I understand.
Why oh why get rid of the chime, not sure....at least keep it optional for people to bring it back! New generation watching Wall-E won't get the joke of the chime sound when he's rebooted.
I think it's pretty clear that Ive is nobody without Steve Jobs.
Apple may be "forcing their ways on you" but they aren't "forcing you to buy their products".
Why oh why get rid of the chime, not sure....at least keep it optional for people to bring it back! New generation watching Wall-E won't get the joke of the chime sound when he's rebooted.
Won't someone think of the kids?!
I don't understand the hand-wringing over the removal of the startup chime. What purpose does it serve?
I personally found it annoying. Thankfully I don't hear it much because the only times I boot up my OSX systems are when a system update requires it.
Won't someone think of the kids?!
I don't understand the hand-wringing over the removal of the startup chime. What purpose does it serve?
I personally found it annoying. Thankfully I don't hear it much because the only times I boot up my OSX systems are when a system update requires it.
Nostalgia counts for something to many of us
I guess. For me it is as "nostalgic" as my mom's "liver and onions" dinner when I was a kid.
How many times a year do you hear the startup chime?
I agree which is why I will not be buying this latest MBP. I'm sticking with my 2015 15" and 2012 non retina 13", both of which I bought in 2015.
100% agree with you.
I understand some of what they are trying to do, but raising the price of us keeping similar laptops to what we use today (e.g. 15" MBP) while taking away some good functional features (MagSafe, at least one damn USB port) and requiring even more $$ for dongles and cords is just unbelievable.
I am already planning out how long I can "survive" on the current generation MBP, before it being practical for me to be able to afford one of the new ones, or if Windows 10 with some of the Dell Precision notebooks can now be a good alternative for me.
I hate being in this situation, I remember explaining all these functional advantages of the hardware and they basically took away all the great features that made it worth the extra $$. But wait, I get a touch strip!
See, Phil was right: they do think about the price! By removing the cable they just saved you $19
"But when you are the best, you are the best. Pay up or shut up. If they weren't the best they couldn't (and wont get away with) these prices."
Oh you poor soul, that's not how things work in real life.
For example, do you think Donald Trump is ANYWHERE REMOTELY CLOSE to being the best when it comes to running the country? Christ no, but he still has a ton of followers. It's something called marketing, and that is something Apple is very good at. By the way, they weren't getting away with the old prices, they had to raise the price to maintain profits from SLUMPING sales.
With that being said, it's going to be interesting for Apple because the MPB will be at a distinct performance disadvantage with the proliferation of desktop class nvidia 10x0 series bringing significantly better graphics performance to laptops that are cheaper, albeit a little big thicker and heavier.
It is for those people that don't just leave their old macbooks in the dust bin. I either sell or pass on my devices to family members...and I'm going to give the extension with it. $20 isn't a big deal, it is just the attitude of screwing over customers that is a problem. A $500 price increase and they can't include a cable that costs them <$2 that was included in every laptop computer before it (Other than the 2015 rMB.)
I guess. For me it is as "nostalgic" as my mom's "liver and onions" dinner when I was a kid.
How many times a year do you hear the startup chime?
A handful at most