Again it's a number you're picking out of thin air. Think about it....just a little.
Then why have past machines had nearly no QC complaints, and these are getting tons? Apple screwed up in QC regardless of if you are willing to accept it or not.
Again it's a number you're picking out of thin air. Think about it....just a little.
Then why have past machines had nearly no QC complaints, and these are getting tons? Apple screwed up in QC regardless of if you are willing to accept it or not.
Are you serious? There have been tons of complaints on previous machines. For example, the last 15" MBP has a long history of poor screens with yellowing problems, misassembled cases, etc...
Just go back to posts from last March, you would think that the machines released were the worst that Apple has ever made.
did you expect them to have the same type of problems as the initial releases of past laptops??
This is how manufacturing goes, initial releases always have problems that get ironed out a few months down the line.
it was aimed a little at marbles and then just my comments.
We are on Rev A for these, expect issues, get them fixed cuz their covered.
Predict doom and gloom once your getting the same things on Rev B,C,D etc.
I bet your friend's Sony didn't cost $2,500, did it? And if it did, guess what - Sony will take it back. Also, I think you are a embellishing. I bought a Sony notebook in 2003 that came with a defective hard drive and Sony turned that computer around for me in 3 days - start to finish. I never had another issue with it.
Nah man, straight up... Maybe it works differently in the states, but I know quite a few people who have had a lot of problems with sony here in the UK... But then again i also know a lot of people who have been thoroughly pleased with them so what does that say?
Are you serious? There have been tons of complaints on previous machines. For example, the last 15" MBP has a long history of poor screens with yellowing problems, misassembled cases, etc...
Just go back to posts from last March, you would think that the machines released were the worst that Apple has ever made.
People did not go through five different models inside of a store to get one that works, or to get a refund and sent home, it was extremely rare for a store to get a bad batch.
People did not go through five different models inside of a store to get one that works, or to get a refund and sent home, it was extremely rare for a store to get a bad batch.
You'd think they could've made some QC dept changes since then wouldn't you ?Not true. There are lots of post of people saying they went through 6 MBPs and not getting one with an acceptable screen.
There seem to be lots of examples of selective memory around here. You want to see bad quality? Look at some of the Apple models in the mid 90's.
You'd think they could've made some QC dept changes since then wouldn't you ?
The screens on the [late 08] I saw looked ok , I think the problem is with the finishing/packing department , I saw a few boxes opened and each machine inside had some kind of dust /pieces of 'something' stuck behind the cellophane wrapper causing dents and scratches , some where quite big too .
That said , the machines them selves & the actually build that had gone into these machines is superb , I couldn't fault it at all , just this quality control issue that's messing things up.
maybe if apple could do away with human interaction altogether in the manufacturing and QC and develop some kind of quality control cyborgs
The First refresh in a new design is always going to have some problems... what i will do is wait until the 2nd or 3rd refresh where they fix everything...
that way i get the best bang for my buck, and i dont have to skrew around w/ replacements...
Apple is a good company, and i dont want to **** at them for no reason!
On the other hand, you HAVE a reason to **** At them... so make some noise and they'll send you a replacement, and something free to go along with it!
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You'd think they could've made some QC dept changes since then wouldn't you ?
The screens on the [late 08] I saw looked ok , I think the problem is with the finishing/packing department , I saw a few boxes opened and each machine inside had some kind of dust /pieces of 'something' stuck behind the cellophane wrapper causing dents and scratches , some where quite big too .
That said , the machines them selves & the actually build that had gone into these machines is superb , I couldn't fault it at all , just this quality control issue that's messing things up.
maybe if apple could do away with human interaction altogether in the manufacturing and QC and develop some kind of quality control cyborgs
The First refresh in a new design is always going to have some problems... what i will do is wait until the 2nd or 3rd refresh where they fix everything...
that way i get the best bang for my buck, and i dont have to skrew around w/ replacements...
Apple is a good company, and i dont want to **** at them for no reason!
On the other hand, you HAVE a reason to **** At them... so make some noise and they'll send you a replacement, and something free to go along with it!
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Ok , maybe not cyborgs ...., Cupertino Ninja's need to be dispatched to China forthwith to kick some [quality control guys] assYes, It's just the quality control... and i completely agree with you that they should pay more attention to that aspect... but cyborgs is going too far...
lol... still, you made me laff so i'll give you a brownie point for that![]()
That's what I kinda thought they would of done, the one thing that I would have thought was automated would be the packaging, especially wrapping the things up in plastic (Why do Apple do this anyway?) I don't know of ANY other computer manufacturer who wraps there laptops in plastic. The last MB and MD Pro didn't. I think there is some serious human screw ups here, if it was machines messing things up then it would have been resolved before production started surely? But machines don't leave finger prints behind the glass....... that's simply someone not wearing gloves and no one telling them to.
I have called Apple who said my new computer should be with me next week.
This is quite laughable, there were still people complaining about Apple's quality 3 years ago, I guess they haven't changed.sad isn't it?
I want my old appleCompany back... I feel like every new customer apple gets the further from my interests they get.
Well said, this is the same things that happen everytime. People come to a forum and complain and think that because of this there is some sort of quality control problem, why is Apple always ranked highest for consumer satisfaction and all those other surveys,they must be doing something right.I'd like to see one iota of proof that the number of defects on shipping products is increasing other than opinions on these sorts of forums.
This happens every release. People scream how bad the quality is. Then it calms downs and starts all over again with the next release.
All the customer satisfaction surveys I ever see seem to indicate Apple customer satisfaction is the same or better. If the products were getting worse you would think the satisfaction would go down.
You'd think they could've made some QC dept changes since then wouldn't you ?
The screens on the [late 08] I saw looked ok , I think the problem is with the finishing/packing department , I saw a few boxes opened and each machine inside had some kind of dust /pieces of 'something' stuck behind the cellophane wrapper causing dents and scratches , some where quite big too .