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Just thought of something... If they do come out June 5, make sure to wait until after WWDC, because there's a good chance (IMHO) that Steve will announce free upgrades to Leopard for Macs purchased after WWDC, in that WWDC was the original release date for Leopard.
 
Just thought of something... If they do come out June 5, make sure to wait until after WWDC, because there's a good chance (IMHO) that Steve will announce free upgrades to Leopard for Macs purchased after WWDC, in that WWDC was the original release date for Leopard.

Surely they wouldn't sell them between June 5-10th as inferior products, then with Leopard from the 11th, that seems just plain silly?
 
...because there's a good chance (IMHO) that Steve will announce free upgrades to Leopard for Macs purchased after WWDC, in that WWDC was the original release date for Leopard.
That's highly doubtful. It's a rare occurrence when "free upgrades" are offered at all and then only if the new OS comes out few weeks after a new hardware product has been released.

So, for example if new iMacs are introduced in late September and Leopard comes out in October, new iMac buyers might get the upgrade for $20 in shipping charges. (It's always an upgrade disc, which makes a complete reinstall a big pain.)
 
i have no idea, but when it comes to minor updates Apple is a master:D maybe bigger harddrive updated graphic card, or different keybord and magnetic latch ala MB

What about the 8x Dual Layer that the newest revision of the MB got. Current MBP have 6x Dual Layer drives. I think we'll see some 8x in the next version IMO.
 
what if there releasing the new MBPS on tuesday so they dont waste time on a bigger project? :confused:
If upgraded hardware is released just before an event, it's usually because it's a minimal upgrade. For the MBP, one might expect santa rosa, magnetic latches, more memory and maybe an LCD display on the high end 15" model. Steve Jobs doesn't usually talk about speed bumps.

As for any "bigger project" it's possible there's a new small portable coming at WWDC or maaaybee new iMacs but I expect very little in the way of hardware being introduced there. I hope we'll be surprised by something.
 
I have the last model g4 powerbook produced and I have been waiting for a new macbook pro. Heres what I want and what I really want. Ill probably pick up this next rev....

Want in this Rev:
*LED Screen
*Faster processor
*4 GB of RAM
*8x DVD drive
*7200 rpm drive in 160GB or larger
*Higher res screen or stupid isight taken out

Really Want but probably wont get in this rev:
*512 MB video card
*HD or Bluray burner
*Solid state HD
*built in WAN for 3g or EVDO
*S video out (useful for hotel rooms when I travel)

Oh well, whatever comes out next I will purchase, this g4 is still going strong but it seems like its on its way out. I hate to give up the PCMCIA slot too, used that alot for memory cards and wireless internet on the road.
 
I tend to agree with you diehardmacfan. However, for those of you who think the FSB will run at 800 MHz, please think again. There is currently a memory controller on the SR chipset which limits the FSB to 667MHz. Thus the reason SR will be revised for Penryn--besides the fact that Penryn takes a completely different socket.

The MBPs must go SR if they are to receive higher clocked chips. My guess is the MBPs will clock in at 2.2 and 2.4 GHz--that's as high as the revised Merom chip clocks stock, but it has a revised microarchitecture so it should perform better than the GHz indicate. The big update will be the LED screen--but Apple is not first here--with an increase in HDD size (and speed?) and a newer gfx card. But looking at the MBP's spec.s, it is hard to really showcase anything to the average consumer other than the new screen (if it is really any better in color reproduction). Otherwise, most improvements will likely be minor and will mainly reduce power consumption and thus increase performance per watt.

I would like a new enclosure and the inclusion of DisplayPort. The former is possible, but the latter may have to wait for Penryn/SR (in late '07) or Penryn/Montevina (in '08) when gfx card manufacturers start to include the port on their standard cards.

I also expect WWDC to showcase a new iMac and Leopard primarily, possibly new HD displays.


Hmm, where do I start with the inaccuracies in this post???

You were told on this , but you still want to argue, 1st you say there's no 800Mhz mem available, and when you are corrected, you whine about how it's too expensive for most to upgrade to 4GB. That's your choice; back in 1995 I had to pay $330, doing a price search, for 32MB of RAM for my Powermac 7200, and I needed every last MB of that, as Netscape was a memory hog, same with HP's Deskjet 855C printer drivers so poorly written for OS8/9! Yeah at the time 64GB was really expensive, but people who want or need that much should have the choice.

Besides, you're not knowledgeable about who buys these Apple laptops to speculate about what the market is for 4GB of 800Mhz SODIMM, Crucial is a 'name' brand so it's going to cost a bit more, Apple will charge you even more> btw. price has already dropped to $265 per 2GB module for the Crucial at their site. Soon as the SR PC laptops ship in numbers, I'll bet the price will drop some more (PC side being the driving economic force) in the next few months. So stop whining, and stop promoting false info.

[url]http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT25664AC80E


Cite you authority for the fact that the mem. controller in SR will not support 800Mhz DDR2 SODIMM's, it makes no sense to up the FSB to support running at 800Mhz if there will be no memory supported to take advantage of it...think man, think! Doh.

gfx card??? Huh, this ain't no Mac Pro, there is no gamer card, the MBP has a non-removable GPU at present, and for the near future-no 'card'.

As much needed updated GPU, 2.4Ghz CPU,

Thus the reason SR will be revised for Penryn--besides the fact that Penryn takes a completely different socket.

Umm, non-sequitur; please cite your sources to support this contorted logic, lol!

Cite your source for the proposition that laptops have to go to SR to use higher frequency Meroms. Are you telling us aftermarket upgrade companies like Daystar will never have 2.6Ghz Meroms running as an upgrade service they provide (authorized Apple service center) in older 1st gen 2GHz MBP's?

Pretty good 'guess', lol, that 2.4Ghz Merom will be in the updated MBP, since Apple is once again behind the PC world in annoucing, we already know 2.4Ghz is current top speed they are available in (though if the heat could be managed, July is speculated to be the release of the user over-clockable mobile x7700 @stock of 2.6Ghz for July? As a top end model, though, considering you wouldn't be buying 4GB of RAM for you non-intensive, no pro apps uses, you wouldn't want the minor extra speed from 2.6Ghz CPU.

Combine 800Mhz memory, FSB, 2.6Ghz CPU, Nvidia 8400M? that alone would be a bigger upgrade than a LED backlit LCD, IMHO. Would be nice to get the 200GB Hitachi 7.2k HD, I'd take the recently announced 64GB 1.8in Samsung SSD as an option any day though, faster still. Next year even faster 256GB SSD's, that no magnetic recording HD can touch in performance, will be the hot ticket for those who can afford them.

Intel mobile Core 2 Extreme, price cuts leaked

Intel Mobile CPU Price Cut In Sep

Core 2 Duo T7800 @ 2.6Ghz, maybe the next updated MBP in Sept. with 2k res screens....finally, which would ship around the same time Leopard is released. MBP will almost certainly be revised at least one more time before any Penryn systems are on the horizon.
 
That's highly doubtful. It's a rare occurrence when "free upgrades" are offered at all and then only if the new OS comes out few weeks after a new hardware product has been released.

So, for example if new iMacs are introduced in late September and Leopard comes out in October, new iMac buyers might get the upgrade for $20 in shipping charges. (It's always an upgrade disc, which makes a complete reinstall a big pain.)

Not true at all!

Apple almost always states that all Macs purchased after the official announcement of a new OS will include that OS.

Also seeing as how June was the original target date for Leopard before the delay, I thnk the odds are near 100% that all Macs purchased after WWDC will most likely contain free OS upgrade coupons.

To my knowledge Apple has taken a similar approach over the past 25 years.
 
MR hits new lows, desperately scrapping the barrel for 'news' to rumor about, page 1, based on 'reseller' info? How times have changed, used to be such a rumor wouldn't make it past pg.2. In fact, such rumors from resellers were around last week, yet MR didn't post them as pg1 news.

What are these other factors/reasons which make a 'reseller' rumor germain for page 1???

What next, rumor about Lindsay Lohan text messaging Paris on the new iPhone from jail...page 1?
 
yeah - isn't it fun! that's why we're all here ;)

My 5 cents - in line with everyone else her: If apple releases updated MBP the 5th it will only be a bump. I think this can be or has to be Santa Rosa and/or LEDs. They will save the big announcements for WWDC. I'm sure it will be 1) Leopard 2) iLife 7 and 3) one or two hardware announcements (MBP, iMac or something else). I'm hoping for totally new iMacs.

oh good grief! as if the anxiety level wasn't high enuff already - now I'll be glued to the computer all day the 5th!!:)
 
Apple almost always states that all Macs purchased after the official announcement of a new OS will include that OS.
Yes, correct, and Apple doesn't usually announce a new OS until (at most) a few weeks before its release. This time is a rare occasion and Apple has actually said in a press release that Leopard is being delayed, for release in October instead of the originally scheduled "spring, 2007." So, there could be something to your theory but I doubt it.
 
Gah, I'm pretty new to the mac scene and just ordered the high end 15" macbook pro last night... if they upgrade the macbook pros so soon after a purchase do they allow you to exchange it for the newer model?

14 days. No restocking fee for standard configurations if the box is UNOPENED. Open the box or order an upgraded machine and you pay the restocking fee of 10 percent.
 
yeah - isn't it fun! that's why we're all here ;)

My 5 cents - in line with everyone else her: If apple releases updated MBP the 5th it will only be a bump. I think this can be or has to be Santa Rosa and/or LEDs. They will save the big announcements for WWDC. I'm sure it will be 1) Leopard 2) iLife 7 and 3) one or two hardware announcements (MBP, iMac or something else). I'm hoping for totally new iMacs.

Santa Rosa and LED screens would be more than a "bump," they would be awesome!
 
MR hits new lows, desperately scrapping the barrel for 'news' to rumor about, page 1, based on 'reseller' info? How times have changed, used to be such a rumor wouldn't make it past pg.2. In fact, such rumors from resellers were around last week, yet MR didn't post them as pg1 news.

It's essentially explained in the article. We have our reasons. Last week's rumors weren't felt to be right, this week things have changed. I guess we'll see Tuesday.

But yes, normally resellers don't know anything head of time. :)

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What exactly would you get out of that, a 5-10% speed increase and some power savings? Seriously, I'm asking because I don't really know.

Santa Rosa marks many speed improvements, not just with the processor, but the whole system as a whole - RAM, front-side bus, and more. As for LED-Displays, they would be brighter, more power-efficient, and have much more accurate colors - crucial to anyone in the creative field. I use InDesign and Illustrator a lot, so those features are crucial to me.

That said, I'm hoping for the best on June 5. I need a new laptop after I graduate this year! I'm finally switching over to the Mac after admiring it from the sidelines for 5 years. :D
 
What exactly would you get out of that, a 5-10% speed increase and some power savings? Seriously, I'm asking because I don't really know.

Well, Santa Rosa features deep sleep and dynamic bus speed, which saves power. LED screens contain no mercury, which is a big deal to me. They're also brighter, have more contrast, more even lighting and greater color depth. LED screens use less power too.

I think LED screens are a big deal because of the environmental impacts. However, I need to do more research to determine whether you need more energy or make more pollutants when you produce the screens. It may turn out that LED screens are harder to make (more energy and pollutants than cold cathode) and thus aren't really that much better for the environment.

But I'm kind of a hippy, so keep that in mind.
 
Not true at all!

Apple almost always states that all Macs purchased after the official announcement of a new OS will include that OS.

Also seeing as how June was the original target date for Leopard before the delay, I thnk the odds are near 100% that all Macs purchased after WWDC will most likely contain free OS upgrade coupons.

To my knowledge Apple has taken a similar approach over the past 25 years.

but, in every case I have seen, that announcement has been mere days from the OS being available...we are still months from seeing 10.5 available...I would bet the upgraded computers will not have OS coupons...not before September, unless SJ pulls a rabbit from the hat and releases it on time.
 
Something interesting to note. The most recent commenter on the French site that MR linked (http://www.mac4ever.com/news/29983/des_nouveaux_macbook_pro_mardi/) states that the French Apple Store is listing the MacBook Pro 15" as shipping in five days instead of the usual 24 hours.

@ monsieurxu : délai de livraison
juste un constat, sur le store, le délai de livraison des MBP qui était jusqu'à présent de "24h" vient de passer à "5 jours"

ce n'est toutefois pas le cas sur le store US

He also points out that this change hasn't been posted on the US Apple Store. Seems that the UK Apple Store hasn't caught on, either.
 
Hope its a decent upgrade, although this is Apple we are talking about here!
Either way I am buying 'a' MacBook Pro, if no Santa Rosa with bells and whistles is released then it's off to the refurbished store for me. So excited as it'll be my first laptop, always been stuck at desktops since '89.
 
Just thought of something... If they do come out June 5, make sure to wait until after WWDC, because there's a good chance (IMHO) that Steve will announce free upgrades to Leopard for Macs purchased after WWDC, in that WWDC was the original release date for Leopard.
Ummm I would be shocked if this were the case. Wait on second thought I really don't even understand your post so I can't be shocked. Are you suggesting that Apple would give away 4 months worth of free 10.5 simply because they are delayed? That's an entire quarter of earnings plus a month simply for buying a Mac after WWDC when there is no proximate relationship between the purchase of the hardware and the OS 4 months later. :eek:
 
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