1. 10.7 is coming later this year. Why muck with the file system code when there is no OS release coming anyway?
2. TRIM is crutch for crappy SSD controllers. The real solution is to stop using crappy SSD controllers.
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1. 10.7 is coming later this year. Why muck with the file system code when there is no OS release coming anyway?
2. TRIM is crutch for crappy SSD controllers. The real solution is to stop using crappy SSD controllers.
I just hope it isn t just a speed bump or a lot of people will be disapointed... Me included...
People are expecting so much now based on many rumours...I think some are bound to be disappointed in some way.
Yeah, if you wanna fry your motherboard, go ahead, run CS5 off a solid state drive.
Programs like that aren't meant to run on flash storage devices.
A hybrid? Sure. It's an interesting concept, and it's gonna increase battery life, boot time and performance.
But if you're going to run CS5...you need the optical drive to install it and a traditional hard drive.
If they move to 100% SSD, then they will have made the MacBook "Pro" a toy like the Air.
Don't get me wrong-the Air is an awesome machine, but if you're a serious designer running serious design programs, solid state drives won't be the best thing for it. Then again, if you're not a serious designer, and you've got money to throw away...which you will when you replace the hard drive in a few months or a year or so when the silicon crack...by all means, get it.
Of course, if Apple has decided to implement SSD, they will have realized they need to ramp up their cooling system...and maybe it is possible, but as far as I know, they're not reporting rumors of a better cooling system.
If they can solve the heat problem and make it run as quickly and as powerfully as current machines...fine. It'll make a more durable product and I'm all for it. But from everything I know, it would be a mistake for Apple to do that.
Like I said, it could be a Lion feature more than a 10.6.7 add on. But to your point, remember that Apple did a hell of a lot of work on Tiger to get it to run on Intel before Leopard was released about 6 months later. Granted, the motivation was bigger ("Witness the amazing G5 PowerBook laptop/stove combo with 2 hours of battery life!"), but I've never seen Apple afraid to do these kinds of changes whenever they wanted.
There's the real solution, and then real life. And yes, there are a lot of crappy SSD controllers in real life.
This is totally inline with what Apple has said about the MacBook Air being the future of their notebook line (very loosely paraphrased). They're obviously taking what people love about iDevices and applying it to their notebooks (fast boot times, long standby times, multitouch).
Really hoping they remove the optical drive on at least a few models. I bet less than 5% of MacBook owners use them on a daily basis. I use mine on a regular basis, but that's only because I work with/create OSX86 distributions. Though, not on a daily basis, only once a week.
Plus, the optical drive is just another moving part. I've had mine replaced once already. Apple could have saved money if the drive was external USB/Firewire 800 based, as they wouldn't have had to pay an employee to open it up and swap it out.
Plus, the optical drive is just another moving part. I've had mine replaced once already. Apple could have saved money if the drive was external USB/Firewire 800 based, as they wouldn't have had to pay an employee to open it up and swap it out.
You have to consider that SJ is out on medical leave...could someone else do it? sure...but I'm guessing they try to limit that.
This doesn't seem right to me. Most of us don't "boot" our Macbooks.
They are either sleeping or on. I rarely reboot or shut down.
The OS on an SSD makes little sense to me as for people like me who don't reboot or shut down, there is little advantage to having the OS on an SSD.
A larger SSD/Hybrid makes far more sense. Macbook Pro is supposed to be the PRO version- yet the MBAir is faster due to the SSD (forget processor speed- that is not the bottleneck for most users).
I think Apple has to make the Pro AT LEAST as good as the MBAir. Meaning hybrid 128 SSD/HHD at a minimum.
Wow, sounds very very interesting! I'm sure Apple wants the MacBook Air's "Instant Wake" feature on all their laptops, but they can't put a 500 GB SSD in a MacBook Pro because of price concerns. Instead, they will put a small SSD just for the important files, and a normal HDD for everything else.
However, that would mean that there would be 2 partitions on the machine, and you would have to decide what to install where. You would eventually run out of space on the SSD partition because of all your apps, so it would get quite complicated, not something Apple generally wants to do. Does OS X actually support having 2 "Applications" folders on two separate partitions? An OS X update could easily fix that though.
I wonder how Apple would go about making this setup "easy to use" and simple...
However, that would mean that there would be 2 partitions on the machine, and you would have to decide what to install where. You would eventually run out of space on the SSD partition because of all your apps, so it would get quite complicated, not something Apple generally wants to do. Does OS X actually support having 2 "Applications" folders on two separate partitions? An OS X update could easily fix that though.
I wonder how Apple would go about making this setup "easy to use" and simple...
well with all these rumors I guess a lot of people will be disappointed on Thursday. Honestly, there is no Media Event and Apple will improve some specs, maybe drop ODD and improve sth else already existent, but all in all it will be a minor update I guess.
I still hope I am wrong. Imo Apple should update a little more... considering the last MBP refresh was April 2010 (10 months ago) and even then it was just a spec bump. Do they really think they will grow significantly with these slow updates and high prices?
I think there are LOTS of people loving their iPods, iPhones, iPads who are willing to "convert" to Mac OS, but just are not in for it because of high prices and limited options...
Just from an economic point of view I think Apple is making less profit by charching that much and leaving many customers out. But maybe they just don't intend to gain Mac OS marketshare..
I still hope I am wrong. Imo Apple should update a little more... considering the last MBP refresh was April 2010 (10 months ago) and even then it was just a spec bump. Do they really think they will grow significantly with these slow updates and high prices?
I think there are LOTS of people loving their iPods, iPhones, iPads who are willing to "convert" to Mac OS, but just are not in for it because of high prices and limited options...
Just from an economic point of view I think Apple is making less profit by charching that much and leaving many customers out. But maybe they just don't intend to gain Mac OS marketshare..
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16GB for OS X doesn't sound like a MBP that lasts for more than 2 years. that implies you are supposed to install applications on a separate drive, so what if you want to reinstall the OS? how the hell can you replace the 2nd hard drive? snow leopard doesn't give you an option for 2 drives, right?
if this rumor is true, I'm keeping my 2009 MBP.
if this rumor is true, I'm keeping my 2009 MBP.
If the ssd is 8gb , it won't even be enough for mac osx + boot camp windows partition. That would be pretty stupid, it must be at least 16 or 32gb.
If it doesn't help with the boot camp rebooting, it really is pointless to use an ssd for just the os X.
If it doesn't help with the boot camp rebooting, it really is pointless to use an ssd for just the os X.
hopefully this small dedicated OS drive is not inbuilt to the system board. I really don't like the idea that in a few years time when those flash cells start failing and going bad, that the only option is to replace the $$$$ system board. At least with the current design, I can replace the entire drive with a bigger faster one later on, or even an SSD later on. Flash on the system board would eliminate that freedom. It would also eliminate the freedom to upgrade to a larger faster system drive in the future. 
Hopefully they make it on a mini PciE card or something else that's user replaceable...
Hopefully they make it on a mini PciE card or something else that's user replaceable...
That's what I'm thinking, although it will increase system speed. That's a very impressive spec that no one else can match.
Ha, that's what they all say during rumor time.
How do you think they will be saving that 1/2 pound?
Probably they will stop including that free corned beef sandwich inside every MacBook Pro.
Oh, you didn't know about that? I wouldn't open your chassis at this point, then. Could be dangerous.
What? Fry your motherboard? What pipe have you been smoking? I would say serious designers probly want a SSD to speed things up. Someone please prove me wrong.
Sadly, my MacBook that I use as my primary machine has an App directory that currently has 13.29 gigs worth of programs.
People whinge and biatch after every update, it's fun to speculate and dream of the spec you personally want but when it drops either buy and enjoy or move on. (Not aimed at you, just all the inevitable moaning buggers that will surface after we know the specs)
Sorry, can't do that. You are absolutely right. SSDs can handle alot more than HDDs. It's like Computing 101. I am a Graphic Designer by profession, and I also program. I'm dreaming pure SSDs.
No biggie... if this rumor is true, your most used Apps will be on the SSD and the others on a HD like they are today. You just won't have all your Apps on the SSD.
If true, this could be a very cool update!