I've had MBPs with the LG screen (9C67) which did not exhibit this problem, so I'd definitely say that the MBP I just received suffers from the yellowing issue.
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New MBP Owners (since 8/13/07), Do You Have The Bottom 3rd Yellowing Issue?
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I've had MBPs with the LG screen (9C67) which did not exhibit this problem, so I'd definitely say that the MBP I just received suffers from the yellowing issue.
week 40- Samsung, YELLOW AGAIN, i dont know what to do at this point, im so beyond infuriated .........
if they cant gurantee me 100% a non defective screen then Im doing a refund, this is bloody ridiculous.
if they cant gurantee me 100% a non defective screen then Im doing a refund, this is bloody ridiculous.
Yes, I should think it is a 'design limitation' -- thanks for passing on your test results. My LG screen exhibits the exact same behaviour, so that is kinda reassuring. I should ask, though -- did the picture stretch all the way from the top to the bottom (iMacs being higher res than 15" MBPs)?
Now regarding the 'design limitation': perhaps Apple engineers already knew that the maximum tilt angle of the LCD is not enough for (most?) people and knew there was always going to be bad viewing angles towards the bottom of the screen anyway, so they didn't bother spending the $$$ fixing the brightness of the bottom part of the LCD...
This is what I get from "export DDC" in SwitchResX, with a 9C66 screen:
What's up with Manufactured........Week 40 of year 2006?
Anyway, the computer was made in week 39 (of 2007). Like I said earlier, it suffers from the yellow issue.
Code:
DDC block report generated by SwitchResX for display
Color LCD
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F
-----------------------------------------------------
0 | 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 06 10 66 9C 01 01 01 01
1 | 28 10 01 03 80 21 15 78 0A 50 C5 98 58 52 8E 27
2 | 25 50 54 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
3 | 01 01 01 01 01 01 D2 25 A0 38 51 84 17 30 40 20
4 | 33 00 4C CF 10 00 00 18 00 00 00 01 00 06 10 30
5 | 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 20 00 00 00 FE 00 42
6 | 31 35 34 50 57 30 34 20 56 30 0A 20 00 00 00 FE
7 | 00 43 6F 6C 6F 72 20 4C 43 44 0A 20 20 20 00 50
-----------------------------------------------------
Valid DDC block: checksum passed
EDID Version........1.3
Manufacturer........APP
Product Code........26268 (669C) (9C66)
Serial Number.......<some number>
Manufactured........Week 40 of year 2006
Max H Size..........33 cm
Max V Size..........21 cm
Gamma...............2.20
DPMS Supported Features:
------------------------
Display type:
-------------
RGB color display
Input signal & sync:
--------------------
Digital
Color info:
------------
Red x = 0.595 Green x = 0.320 Blue x = 0.155 White x = 0.313
Red y = 0.345 Green y = 0.555 Blue y = 0.145 White y = 0.329
Established Timings:
--------------------
Manufacturer Reserved Timings:
------------------------------
Standard Timing Identification:
-------------------------------
Monitor Description blocks:
---------------------------
Descriptor #0 is Timing definition:
Mode = 1440 x 900 @ 60Hz
Pixel Clock.............96.82 MHz Non-Interlaced
Horizontal Vertical
Active..................1440 pixels 900 lines
Front Porch............. 64 pixels 3 lines
Sync Width.............. 32 pixels 3 lines
Back Porch.............. 216 pixels 17 lines
Blanking................ 312 pixels 23 lines
Total...................1752 pixels 923 lines
Scan Rate............... 55.26 kHz 59.87 Hz
Image Size.............. 332 mm 207 mm
Border.................. 0 pixels 0 lines
Sync: Digital separate with
* Negative vertical polarity
* Negative horizontal polarity
Descriptor #1 is Manufacturer specific data (not interpreted here)
Descriptor #2 is ASCII data:
B154PW04 V0
Descriptor #3 is ASCII data:
Color LCDWhat's up with Manufactured........Week 40 of year 2006?
Anyway, the computer was made in week 39 (of 2007
). Like I said earlier, it suffers from the yellow issue.MBP Refurb shipped last week 10/2/2007
I received my macbook pro this Monday 10/8/2007. No problem with the screen at all. This is a refurb unit so maybe it was returned and fixed. When I try to list my manufacturer there is not one listed. The 4 character tag listed is mmod.
I received my macbook pro this Monday 10/8/2007. No problem with the screen at all. This is a refurb unit so maybe it was returned and fixed. When I try to list my manufacturer there is not one listed. The 4 character tag listed is mmod.
Just received my replacement MBP (old one was SAMSUNG yellow, changed the screen, still a Samsung Yellow).
Week 40
SAMSUNG
Yellow on the bottom.
Will I go for another CRU ? Don't know, probably not. I will live with it, tired of this yellowing lottery.
If they clearly arrange this problem, I will reconsider, but now I still need my laptop.
Week 40
SAMSUNG
Yellow on the bottom.
Will I go for another CRU ? Don't know, probably not. I will live with it, tired of this yellowing lottery.
If they clearly arrange this problem, I will reconsider, but now I still need my laptop.
I wouldn't play their games and deal with a defect. Turn around time for a replacement isn't very long. I shipped out my defective one yesterday, and I should be getting the replacement Monday.
Lets hope my 4th MBP will be defect free.
I recieved my first notebook after two weeks waiting- and my replacement after two weeks waiting-
now im more irrate...I going for another replacement but I need to voice my concerns up to someone higher up the ladder so that I havent waited 1.5 months for nothing--
week 40- Samsung, YELLOW AGAIN, i dont know what to do at this point, im so beyond infuriated .........
if they cant gurantee me 100% a non defective screen then Im doing a refund, this is bloody ridiculous.
I honestly think that if you exchange it again, you should ask for a matte one. Those are less likley to have the defect. Mine is a samsung week 38, and has absolutly no yellowing at all.
Samsung 9C68 -- No yellow here but..
I have seen some strange banding when viewing certain gradients.
Bought : MBP2.2 15" Sept. 14 ship date CTO.
I have seen some strange banding when viewing certain gradients.
Bought : MBP2.2 15" Sept. 14 ship date CTO.
MacBook Pro 15in. 2.4Ghz (High End)
Shipped: Oct 4th (From Singapore)
Arrived: Oct 10th (Japan; Purchased in Japan from Apple.co.jp)
Type: Matte
Display Type: 9c68 (Samsung?)
Manufacturer: 0610
Manufacture Date: c2110e00
I have the dreaded 1/3 bottom yellowing issue. At first I thought I had a good screen with a terrible color profile but then I calibrated it and realized that while the top of the screen has bright, clear whites the bottom 1/3 - 1/2 is a dirty yellow off-white. I've called Apple Support (dealing with Japanese support, hahaha) and been given the option to send it in or drop it by the apple store when I'm there in a month. I'm going to do that and see what they have to say about it in person, you know.
Shipped: Oct 4th (From Singapore)
Arrived: Oct 10th (Japan; Purchased in Japan from Apple.co.jp)
Type: Matte
Display Type: 9c68 (Samsung?)
Manufacturer: 0610
Manufacture Date: c2110e00
I have the dreaded 1/3 bottom yellowing issue. At first I thought I had a good screen with a terrible color profile but then I calibrated it and realized that while the top of the screen has bright, clear whites the bottom 1/3 - 1/2 is a dirty yellow off-white. I've called Apple Support (dealing with Japanese support, hahaha) and been given the option to send it in or drop it by the apple store when I'm there in a month. I'm going to do that and see what they have to say about it in person, you know.
Just got mine today, ordered it Sept. 5th, It took them 5 weeks to deliver my week 40, 9C66 WITH YELLOW 3rd! Damned, and I am afraid it's gonna be another 5 weeks if I return it
WASSUP APPLE?
Still a great machine, but when you spend 3200 for a pro machine you expect no such issues right?
Still a great machine, but when you spend 3200 for a pro machine you expect no such issues right?
Went to a dutch Apple reseller with enough money to buy me a Macbook pro.
Result:
1st Macbookpro openend: DOA (Dead on Arrival, did not boot up)
2nd Macbook pro openend: seemed fine, but one of the keys on the keyboard did not function 100%.
3nd Macbook Pro: samsung with strong Yellowing at bottom
4th Macbook pro: Yes.. LG... but wait: there's a nasty grey colouring at the bottom (looks likes the display being scratched). For a 500 euro laptop, that's fine. But not for an so called 'PRO' machine. Sorry Jobs, really lost my patience here !
I felt really sorry for the reseller, but I gave up justifying the Macbook pro.
What I also hated about the Macbook pro is that it is extremely sensitive to the angle you look at the screen. Colours are not consistent at all, and a 2 cm head move makes a huge difference in colour.
Anything postive to close this post with ??
Typing this message from the Macbook I bought from this poor reseller, without even trying the Macbook out. Result: saved half of my money (!!!) and am a very happy Macbook owner now....
I think Apple should be really ashamed about themselves. Macbook pro state of the art for the true professional ?? No, it's a complete joke.
I actually like the keyboard of the Macbook a lot now, and the size is also very nice. Missing a dedicated video card ??? Not really, everything shows up really fast & quick. Will try to connect it to an external screen tomorrow.
Sound is fine, altough not as good on Imac, but who would expect that.
Last posting I'll do on this Macbook PRO topic, will move now to the 'lesser' Macbook topic forum
Result:
1st Macbookpro openend: DOA (Dead on Arrival, did not boot up)
2nd Macbook pro openend: seemed fine, but one of the keys on the keyboard did not function 100%.
3nd Macbook Pro: samsung with strong Yellowing at bottom
4th Macbook pro: Yes.. LG... but wait: there's a nasty grey colouring at the bottom (looks likes the display being scratched). For a 500 euro laptop, that's fine. But not for an so called 'PRO' machine. Sorry Jobs, really lost my patience here !
I felt really sorry for the reseller, but I gave up justifying the Macbook pro.
What I also hated about the Macbook pro is that it is extremely sensitive to the angle you look at the screen. Colours are not consistent at all, and a 2 cm head move makes a huge difference in colour.
Anything postive to close this post with ??
Typing this message from the Macbook I bought from this poor reseller, without even trying the Macbook out. Result: saved half of my money (!!!) and am a very happy Macbook owner now....
I think Apple should be really ashamed about themselves. Macbook pro state of the art for the true professional ?? No, it's a complete joke.
I actually like the keyboard of the Macbook a lot now, and the size is also very nice. Missing a dedicated video card ??? Not really, everything shows up really fast & quick. Will try to connect it to an external screen tomorrow.
Sound is fine, altough not as good on Imac, but who would expect that.
Last posting I'll do on this Macbook PRO topic, will move now to the 'lesser' Macbook topic forum
Once when the free upgrade to Leopard is announced, I am going to an Apple Store and buying a MBP. I will open it in the store. If I have one issue, I am exchanging it until I get one that is "perfect." I don't care if I have to go through 100 MBPs. I am a bit of a perfectionist, and this laptop is going to have to last 3-4 years. Any issue I have once when I open it is either going to not get better, or it's going to get worse.
And then I will probably buy Apple Care towards the end of my warranty.
And then I will probably buy Apple Care towards the end of my warranty.
That's exactly what I'm doing, only replacing this MBP for a brand new MBP with Leopard. The fact that I'm facing this yellowish screen, plus fonts that keep disappearing (AppleCare didn't know what to do either), and that they've been running out of MBP stock for the last three times I've flown home since school started (I'm in college right now) has been extremely frustrating. I don't care how long this is going to take but I'm determined to finally resolve this.
Good luck getting the "perfect" macbook pro. You may have bit off more than you can chew...
There is a reason I put "perfect" in quotes when I made my original post.
If I get a screen with yellowing, I'm exchanging.
If I get any other noticable defects, I'm exchanging (such as noise through the speakers and headphones or if there is a really obnoxious "CPU whine").
Anything else that doesn't fall into perfection (such as the screen not lying perfectly flesh with the bottom when closed), I'm going to look past.
Pretty much, anything that will annoy me, I will exchange it for.
While this seems like a great plan in theory, I don't think it's going to work out for you.
My Apple store told me that I could open up my new Macbook pro with the store manager and see if it was to my liking. If there was a problem like the yellow screen or defective keyboard, I could exchange it.
However, I was then told that if there was a stuck pixel on the screen I would not be able to exchange for another laptop. I was also told that I couldn't sit in the store opening macbook pros until I was happy. If I opened one that the manager didn't think had a problem, I was stuck with it or had to pay the restocking fee.
So, check with your apple store first.
Just got my 2.2 GHz MBP a week ago, as a replacement for my (very very very very, very very, very faulty 1.83 GHz CoreDuo MBP), and it's perfect. Nothing I could fault it on whatsoever. The display is flawless (bar some slight banding, but it's far, far better than ANY other laptop I've used). Perfectly even backlight, warm-up time of about a second, perfect colour balance and very good viewing angles. Very little motion blurring as well, very pleased!
I'm allowed to get a refund for it, regardless of whether something is wrong with it or not? Right?
I will take the refund, and then buy another.
I'm allowed to get a refund for it, regardless of whether something is wrong with it or not? Right?
I will take the refund, and then buy another.
I think it honestly depends on the store and that store's manager. Judging by this forum, it seems there are some very generous stores and some very unaccomodating ones.
I haven't been to the one by me yet. It's in a mall and looked pretty small. It's the one in Raleigh, NC, if any of you have been to that one.